WTA tobacco alkaloids

[KaiserSose]

Nic cravings are at unbearable levels.
Only time is right after dinner. I cannot control it no matter what I try.
I am using 24mg juice, tobbaco, fruity,you name it!
I want to try this wta stuff.
Where in canada can I get it?
The other thread with this topic is old.
Thing is, all day no problems at all! vape away, enjoying the smoke free day.
Come dinner time! Its hell. Almost went and bought a pack last night, I am dreading dinner tonight
Any insights would be greatly appreciated!

 

[DVap]

You won't find WTA in Canada or at any vape shop
.
I recommend you order from AromaEjuice.com. Their shipping policy states:

All orders are shipped in USPS Priority Flat Rate Small Boxes, both within the U.S. and Internationally. Because the cost of international shipping, the quantity for each order cannot exceed 12 - 10ml bottles or 7 - 30ml bottles or a combination of the two as this is the maximum number of bottles that fit in these boxes. Our store has no way of charging for additional boxes.

I created WTA in 2009, and AromaEjuice uses my WTA production method. I'd recommend the 24 mg unflavored VS WTA. It's not really unflavored because the tobacco alkaloids themselves give the stuff a wonderful nutty taste and full throat feel. Aroma also sells flavored liquids with WTA, but for the bad cravings, the 24 mg unflavored VS is the stuff that that you're looking for. Due to the complex production and purification process, it's expensive, but a little goes a long way.

 

[KaiserSose]

Thanks dude!
HOLY $$$$!
Oh well, dinner was over 3hrs ago, i just now feel like i dont want too RIP somebodies head off!. WTH! This is NOT cool at all.
$$$ well spent if it works.
Thanks again.

AH CRAP! Just realized, shipping in from the states, a week or 2-3 before it gets here.

 

[TangentOmen]

Might I suggest having a smoke?
It's really not a big deal, you may find lighting one up will actually kill your craving really quick, especially if you havn't had one for over a week- they taste pretty nasty now

Not that I'm advocating smoking, but when I had my strong cravings when I was first starting out, I just had one....

 

[Zurd]

What TangentOmen said. Take it slow at first, don't stress yourself. Personally I didn't want to go through any withdrawal effect or anything, I just smoked less and less each day in a period of 3 months. At the end I was at 2-3 cigarettes a day and they just tasted nasty so I stopped. In that time I had the chance to test PVs and liquids that will satisfy me the most.

It was easy

 

[Kagey K]

Nic cravings are at unbearable levels.
Only time is right after dinner. I cannot control it no matter what I try.
I am using 24mg juice, tobbaco, fruity,you name it!
I want to try this wta stuff.
Where in canada can I get it?
The other thread with this topic is old.
Thing is, all day no problems at all! Vape away, enjoying the smoke free day.
Come dinner time! Its hell. Almost went and bought a pack last night, I am dreading dinner tonight
Any insights would be greatly appreciated!

If I could suggest, stay away from the WTA and just get adjusted.... It's all the other chemicals driving you nuts and wta isn't going to solve it. It is a few days of suffering, but after that it's clear sailing. Wta aren't going to replace that feeling that you have. You will spend a bunch if money for nothing.

What TangentOmen said. Take it slow at first, don't stress yourself. Personally I didn't want to go through any withdrawal effect or anything, I just smoked less and less each day in a period of 3 months. At the end I was at 2-3 cigarettes a day and they just tasted nasty so I stopped. In that time I had the chance to test PVs and liquids that will satisfy me the most.

It was easy

 

[Amnion]

Agree with Tangent. You have a smoke after supper while going through this, So What? I'm "letting it happen". Started vaping 4 weeks ago, smoking for 48 years, smoking around 40+ a day . I'm down to about 10 now.
The stubborn ones for me are when I get up - 5 of the ten are chain smoked with coffee in my cold, stinking garage immediately upon arising (haven't smoked in the house for decades,
you can imagine what the garage smells like). After that I'll have a few during the day with a coffee, one after dinner, one before bed. I notice I'm enjoying them less and less.

I was thinking of WTA's or NETs, but the border thing puts me off. Good Luck!

 

[Katya]

Yes, have a smoke.

And please read my reply to your post in Ask the Vets forum.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ask-veterans/536842-help-nic-craving.html#post12464358

 

[Katya]

If I could suggest, stay away from the WTA and just get adjusted.... It's all the other chemicals driving you nuts and wta isn't going to solve it. It is a few days of suffering, but after that it's clear sailing. Wta aren't going to replace that feeling that you have. You will spend a bunch if money for nothing.

Wanna bet?

Seriously--WTAs have helped many, many people, including yours truly.

 

[Faylool]

If I could suggest, stay away from the WTA and just get adjusted.... It's all the other chemicals driving you nuts and wta isn't going to solve it. It is a few days of suffering, but after that it's clear sailing. Wta aren't going to replace that feeling that you have. You will spend a bunch if money for nothing.

This is partially true but I really disagree with the part that just blanket statement says WTA doesn't help. It helps! A LOT! I use snus and nasal snuff now to help because my finances went way down. Just a little each day and vape DIY. Keeps it pretty cheap. Once I ever get caught up with that initial year of spending like a drunken sailor

 

[Katya]

This is partially true but I really disagree with the part that just blanket statement says WTA doesn't help. It helps! A LOT! I use snus and nasal snuff now to help because my finances went way down. Just a little each day and vape DIY. Keeps it pretty cheap. Once I ever get caught up with that initial year of spending like a drunken sailor

I started with Swedish snus and dissolvable tobacco (Ariva and Stonewall) in addition to vaping. Then WTA eliquids become available. Right now, I'm pretty much off snus and dissolvables, just add a few drops of WTA eliquids to my regular juices--now and then.

 

[KaiserSose]

Thanks all.
Yes Katya i read the Veterans posts.
I do the same thing everyday, before when i was smoking and after. Its just that onetime of the day!. 2-3hrs of hell! GRRR!
I have researched the WTA's. Yea, i am not going too go that route. 1. its going to take at least a week too get the stuff here, and thats IF it makes it past Customs.
I will let this go for another day or so. Then i guess its going too be a smoke after dinner. I have no idea what snus is, guess i will have a look at that as well.
I will try everything posted and hope for the best, i may order some WTA's in the meantime.
Thanks again for all the replies.

 

[TangentOmen]

I wouldn't feel too bad about having a smoke, when you really crave it.. think of all the smokes you have avoided- as they say alot around here

 

[Nermal]

It's going to work, Kaiser, if you just keep on like you're going.

 

[Katya]

I wouldn't feel too bad about having a smoke, when you really crave it.. think of all the smokes you have avoided- as they say alot around here

Yup. That's what we say around here.

Harm reduction.

Good luck, Kaiser! Don't beat yourself up. Switching to vaping takes time; for some people, it takes about 5 minutes. Others are not so lucky.

One cig a day is much better than climbing walls. At least in my book.

 

[KaiserSose]

Wondering about upping my nic content? 24mg is the stuff I have now. Thinking maybe getting some 100mg nic from nic r us and put it in my current juice? Bring it up to 36mg? Maybe?
Yea one cig, thats what I said 35years ago! Lol!
Oh my wife is love that! I have been one of those ex smokers! Cocky bugger!

 

[Katya]

Wondering about upping my nic content? 24mg is the stuff I have now. Thinking maybe getting some 100mg nic from nic r us and put it in my current juice? Bring it up to 36mg? Maybe?

You know your body best. I think that 24 mg/ml is quite high, but you may try 36.

Upping nic never worked for me, but it may work for you.

I vape 12 mg/ml. The highest I could tolerate was maybe 18/20 mg; anything higher would just make me woozy and make my heart race and my palms sweat--but it did nothing to help with the cravings.

YMMV

 

[Kagey K]

Wanna bet?

Seriously--WTAs have helped many, many people, including yours truly.

This is partially true but I really disagree with the part that just blanket statement says WTA doesn't help. It helps! A LOT! I use snus and nasal snuff now to help because my finances went way down. Just a little each day and vape DIY. Keeps it pretty cheap. Once I ever get caught up with that initial year of spending like a drunken sailor

You know your body best. I think that 24 mg/ml is quite high, but you may try 36.

Upping nic never worked for me, but it may work for you.

I vape 12 mg/ml. The highest I could tolerate was maybe 18/20 mg; anything higher would just make me woozy and make my heart race and my palms sweat--but it did nothing to help with the cravings.

YMMV

I should have precluded that staement with IMO, it was a bit too much of a blanket statement, so I retract part of that.

In my experience however, many people that smoke full strength cigs find 18 mg to give them a nicotine buzz akin to the one we all got when we first started smoking, and some of them still smoke the occasional cigarette, while using ecigs most of the time, without wta.

The most recent person I know went from 40+ per day to 9 and he's has only been on the ecigs for 3 weeks. Don't feel bad about smoking while using ecigs, just think of all the smokes you didn't have and as time goes on they will taste worse and worse.

Personally I found myself with a lit cig in one hand while I was puffing away on my battery and wasting the one that was burning away, that was when I knew it was time.

 

[aggo]

I want to try this wta stuff.
Where in canada can I get it?
The other thread with this topic is old.

If you do feel like trying out a WTA, Gentleman's Reserve in BC sells Tasty Vapor's Tobacco.

TV Tobacco | Cowboy Classics | Gentlemen's Reserve

EDIT: I noticed they have 28 and 32mg as well. Unfortunately out of stock at the moment.

 

[DVap]

If you do feel like trying out a WTA, Gentleman's Reserve in BC sells Tasty Vapor's Tobacco.

TV Tobacco | Cowboy Classics | Gentlemen's Reserve

EDIT: I noticed they have 28 and 32mg as well. Unfortunately out of stock at the moment.

Tasty Vapor's product is NOT a WTA. It is a NET. From the product description:

This flavor uses crude extraction of tobacco leaves in its production. As such this is a tobacco alkaloid composition and may contain health harming impurities not encountered in other tobacco flavorings. [Emphasis added]

A WTA is not a crude extraction of tobacco leaves, it is a highly purified extraction of the tobacco alkaloids. Unlike NET extractions, which contain a relatively low tobacco alkaloid concentration along with a lot of gunk, WTA contains only tobacco alkaloids.