hi all, just wanted to stop by and share that i got another kr808d model from LeCig. Mike over there had some very good prices and on top of that, free shipping. The KR808d from LeCig(dot)com is much like the other KR808d models around. Compares to the Vapor King. The cartridges that came with the vape seemed to last as long as the V4L carts. Pretty impressive. Most people know about these disposable 2 pieces, but honestly more people need to try them. It's such a hassle trying to keep up with atomizers, with Disposables, they are easy. The vapor production is pretty decent, again a lot like the others. Throat hit is immense. hope more people will try them. the price was just right too. 59.99 for a 2 battery, 6 cartridge, and 2 chargers plus he added some extra carts to try! great service, great product. the new disposables are the way to go!