Having just researched that, I think that is a good suggestion. The graham cracker doesn't stand out much as is. I'll pick up some 5% solution from PA. What percentage of total volume (or vs. volume of Graham Cracker) would you recommend?
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Having just researched that, I think that is a good suggestion. The graham cracker doesn't stand out much as is. I'll pick up some 5% solution from PA. What percentage of total volume (or vs. volume of Graham Cracker) would you recommend?
I haven't used it but it's very small. There is a thread somewhere. One post used 1 drop ( using Tpa small dropper 42/ml ) per 5 or 10 ml juice. Another thread using parts per million stated 4 drops of Tpa dilution in 6 ml PG then use that solution 1 drop per 10 ml juice.
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http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5531396
Okay, I did a search, found that all the Acetylpyrazine comes from Chinese manufacturers. It was not easy to find the max ppm for Acetylpyrazine (Ap)...
Normal use levels in finished consumer product: 0.05-5 ppm.
Council of Europe limits: foods (5 ppm); beverages (5 ppm). Uses: Daily Flavor, Food Flavor, Tobacco Flavor, Other Have seen that the practise of foodflavoring with 1.000 ppm Acetylpyrazine or higher is not unusual. Dont know, maybe thats only not unusual for the USA?
Found also the following
ARTS PER MILLION CONVERSIONS ,telling; 1 ppm = 1/1,000,000 = 0.000001 = 0.0001% of undiluted, so: 5 ppm = 5/1,000,000 = 0.000005 = 0.0005% of undiluted Ap.
Now step by step my calculation with TPAs Ap that is sold by TPA in a 5%-dilution (TPA also sells Ap-1% solution and that gives of course other results.) and when staying within the Europe food-limit of max.5 ppm :
1 drop/ml = 1/20 = 5% of undiluted, meaning: 1 drop of undiluted Pa (100%) in 10.000 drops (=500ml) results in 0,0005%; the max. 5 ppm. 1 drop of TPAs 5% Ap in 500 drops (=5% of 10.000 drops)=0,0005%, the max 5 ppm-dilution, meaning: 1 drop of TPAs 5% Ap in (500 drops/20 drops) 25 ml of juice is the maximum for food.
So; 1 drop of TPAs 5% Ap in 5 ml of juice is 5 times to much for food, meaning; 1 drop of TPAs 5% Ap in 1 ml of juice is 25 times to much and 1 drop of this diluted in 1-2 ml base juice will bring it below the max of 5 ppm.
We speak here about maximum levels for food, but we vape it and maybe the max. level for food is to high for vaping, we just dont know. So lets get on the safer side and therefore choose for a max. of: 1 drop of TPAs 5% Ap diluting in 5 ml of plain PG and of that dilution I put in max 4-5 drops in 10 ml of e-juice.
European limit for food of 5 ppm
://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/236031-what-these-3-molecules.html
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http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5531396
Okay, I did a search, found that all the Acetylpyrazine comes from Chinese manufacturers. It was not easy to find the max ppm for Acetylpyrazine (Ap)...
Normal use levels in finished consumer product: 0.05-5 ppm.
Council of Europe limits: foods (5 ppm); beverages (5 ppm). Uses: Daily Flavor, Food Flavor, Tobacco Flavor, Other Have seen that the practise of foodflavoring with 1.000 ppm Acetylpyrazine or higher is not unusual. Dont know, maybe thats only not unusual for the USA?
Found also the following
ARTS PER MILLION CONVERSIONS ,telling; 1 ppm = 1/1,000,000 = 0.000001 = 0.0001% of undiluted, so: 5 ppm = 5/1,000,000 = 0.000005 = 0.0005% of undiluted Ap.Now step by step my calculation with TPAs Ap that is sold by TPA in a 5%-dilution (TPA also sells Ap-1% solution and that gives of course other results.) and when staying within the Europe food-limit of max.5 ppm :
1 drop/ml = 1/20 = 5% of undiluted, meaning: 1 drop of undiluted Pa (100%) in 10.000 drops (=500ml) results in 0,0005%; the max. 5 ppm. 1 drop of TPAs 5% Ap in 500 drops (=5% of 10.000 drops)=0,0005%, the max 5 ppm-dilution, meaning: 1 drop of TPAs 5% Ap in (500 drops/20 drops) 25 ml of juice is the maximum for food.
So; 1 drop of TPAs 5% Ap in 5 ml of juice is 5 times to much for food, meaning; 1 drop of TPAs 5% Ap in 1 ml of juice is 25 times to much and 1 drop of this diluted in 1-2 ml base juice will bring it below the max of 5 ppm.
We speak here about maximum levels for food, but we vape it and maybe the max. level for food is to high for vaping, we just dont know. So lets get on the safer side and therefore choose for a max. of: 1 drop of TPAs 5% Ap diluting in 5 ml of plain PG and of that dilution I put in max 4-5 drops in 10 ml of e-juice.
European limit for food of 5 ppm
://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/236031-what-these-3-molecules.html
GG, Provari, iatty2, DIY wannabe chef
Appreciate that, thank you- I placed an order today along with a few other PA items.
Will give it a try in my next tobacco graham cracker attempt
Will give it a try in my next tobacco graham cracker attempt
hello
i am also interesting to make my won tobacco e-juice , with the most real flavor there is
i will love to here any advices on how to mix
i just made this "small" order of Concentrate from totallywicked
today i need to receive it
Flavour: Tobacco
State Express
Mild 7
American Red Tobacco
Hilton
nGold Virgin
Camel
Blended Tobacco
Bensins
Tobacco
State Express
Mild 7
American Red Tobacco
Hilton
F Gold Virgin
Camel
Blended Tobacco
Bensins
and from libertyflight this
AMERICAN GOLD (TOBACCO)
AMERICAN RED (TOBACCO)
CARMEL (TOBACCO)
TOBACCO (TOBACCO)VIRGINIA
i am also interesting to make my won tobacco e-juice , with the most real flavor there is
i will love to here any advices on how to mix
i just made this "small" order of Concentrate from totallywicked
today i need to receive it
Flavour: Tobacco
State Express
Mild 7
American Red Tobacco
Hilton
nGold Virgin
Camel
Blended Tobacco
Bensins
Tobacco
State Express
Mild 7
American Red Tobacco
Hilton
F Gold Virgin
Camel
Blended Tobacco
Bensins
and from libertyflight this
AMERICAN GOLD (TOBACCO)
AMERICAN RED (TOBACCO)
CARMEL (TOBACCO)
TOBACCO (TOBACCO)VIRGINIA
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Appreciate that, thank you- I placed an order today along with a few other PA items.
Will give it a try in my next tobacco graham cracker attempt
Let me know how it works out.
GG, Provari, iatty2, DIY wannabe chef
I mixed my first batch of e-liquids a week ago. My first attempts were o.k. but not stellar. Unlike many vapers I like tobacco flavors. I came across your post and tried mixing 15 ml of various tobacco flavors, using your common tobacco recipe, which are still steeping. I just sampled one of them and it is PRO! I got a long lasting vape with good flavor and tons of vapor using 3 dorps in my drip-o-mizer. I have to wait a couple more days for these to steep but my sample was excellent. Thanks -from a noob and in particular a noob to DIY- for a simple, quick, and good way to mix tobacco flavors. I will also try mixing some other flavors with these guidelines; I'm confident that my mixing will be successful due to the ease of this recipe and its quality results. Thank you.
I'm vaping 24.7 mg Marksboro, right now, using pinellaspete's common tobacco recipe, my 510, and a clearomizer. Tons of flavor and vapor! I'm thinking about mixing another batch but I want to explore some other flavoring options so I can tweak sweet/sour, smooth/toasty, grassy, dry, etc. I owe quick success as a DIY noob to this quick, easy, and prone to success recipe. I've used it as a model to mix two coffee/creme flavors that are currently steeping. I'll let you know how they come out.
Thank you pinellaspete.
Thank you pinellaspete.
I make this Banana Tobacco that I really love, but I'm bad about exact measurements, so mine goes something like this:
For 10 mL, I add 3-4 drops each of Burley, Cowboy, Virginia, and then I add Desert Ship until I'm at about 5% total flavoring. Not sure how much the "lesser tobaccos" influence the DS (because it's pretty strong), but it works, so I haven't stopped adding them! Then, I add banana flavor until I can smell it in there a little. I know with these little micro-pipettes I use, it's about 10 drops, but those are tiny drops. I've used TPA's Ripe Banana, but I actually prefer the Lorann's Banana Creme flavor. Oh, I also add two drops of 10% EM mix and 4 drops of MTS Vape Wizard.
Edit: I've tried a few of the super-concentrated flavors, and they are good for single-flavor tobacco mixes, but I've found with my 50/50 vg/pg blend, I need to mix them at close to 4% than the 2.5% they advise. Virginia Flue Cure, Honey Flue Cure, and Real Cig are all pretty good IMO. All the FA's I mix at about 5%.
For 10 mL, I add 3-4 drops each of Burley, Cowboy, Virginia, and then I add Desert Ship until I'm at about 5% total flavoring. Not sure how much the "lesser tobaccos" influence the DS (because it's pretty strong), but it works, so I haven't stopped adding them! Then, I add banana flavor until I can smell it in there a little. I know with these little micro-pipettes I use, it's about 10 drops, but those are tiny drops. I've used TPA's Ripe Banana, but I actually prefer the Lorann's Banana Creme flavor. Oh, I also add two drops of 10% EM mix and 4 drops of MTS Vape Wizard.
Edit: I've tried a few of the super-concentrated flavors, and they are good for single-flavor tobacco mixes, but I've found with my 50/50 vg/pg blend, I need to mix them at close to 4% than the 2.5% they advise. Virginia Flue Cure, Honey Flue Cure, and Real Cig are all pretty good IMO. All the FA's I mix at about 5%.
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Just want to jump onto this thread and follow. thanks all of you who've posted..im very new to diy
French pipe tobacco + Jamaican rum. wow!
This is the first DIY and vendor bought juice that I've actually thought was yummy and just wanted to vape the hell out of it.
Can't give you the percentages b/c I'm too lazy to keep track, and I mix at a higher overall flavor percentage due to using %100 vg. First batch I made was great, then the second I made was mixed w/ a bit more Jamaican Rum (b/c I couldn't remember how much I added to the first one) and while it didn't have the same good smell as the first batch, the vaping is amazing. I think I like the second batch a little more.. I think.
This is the first DIY and vendor bought juice that I've actually thought was yummy and just wanted to vape the hell out of it.
Can't give you the percentages b/c I'm too lazy to keep track, and I mix at a higher overall flavor percentage due to using %100 vg. First batch I made was great, then the second I made was mixed w/ a bit more Jamaican Rum (b/c I couldn't remember how much I added to the first one) and while it didn't have the same good smell as the first batch, the vaping is amazing.
I think I like the second batch a little more.. I think.
MPD Tobacco:
28 ml base - 12mg 66% PG - 34% VG in my case.
1ml M-Type Premium
1/2ml Perique
1/2ml Dark Vapure
This is a tribute to the P.I.G.S. in my city.
A.K.A. Clean And Dirty!
Note: Needs to steep for at least a week.
28 ml base - 12mg 66% PG - 34% VG in my case.
1ml M-Type Premium
1/2ml Perique
1/2ml Dark Vapure
This is a tribute to the P.I.G.S. in my city.
A.K.A. Clean And Dirty!
Note: Needs to steep for at least a week.
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Here goes nothing! I'm still really new to this but I feel that I've got one good tobacco recipe (at least by my taste). I've tried a lot of different tobacco mixings (all were vapeable just not worth re-mixing) this is the only one marked in my chicken scratch/recipe notebook with "keeper".
Mixed 6/22/12 target 24mg 80PG/20VG 5ml used TFA flavorings.
Marksboro Smooth
2.5 ml 48mg Nic/PG
1.5 ml PG
7 drops m-type flavor
4 drops smooth type flavor
1 drop Cotton Candy.
Filled to 5ml with VG
I let this steep for 7 days.
I know it's closer to 82G/18VG but I rounded off.
Mixed 6/22/12 target 24mg 80PG/20VG 5ml used TFA flavorings.
Marksboro Smooth
2.5 ml 48mg Nic/PG
1.5 ml PG
7 drops m-type flavor
4 drops smooth type flavor
1 drop Cotton Candy.
Filled to 5ml with VG
I let this steep for 7 days.
I know it's closer to 82G/18VG but I rounded off.
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Thanks for the recipes. It seems every time I try one, it comes out too strong and I can never stop with 1 or two drops... I just mixed up a few sample bottles (4ml worth in each of 18mg strength and 75pg/25vg ratio) with Ry4 flavoring and 7 Leaves Ultimate with 2 drops in each bottle or 2 drops per 4ml. I will try to let it steep a few days before sampling...
Question: I do not have any Ethyl Maltol. Is there a good substitute for sweetener, as I have a ton of fruit flavors etc., that I like to add minimally to pre-mixed tobacco flavors.. Any advise on this substitution is most appreciated. I don't like nutty flavors, or overly sweet... maybe just a hint, but thought I might get some masterful advise...
Thanks in advance!
Edit: Btw, when I meant not overly sweet, I use a blueberry mix that totals 10 drops per 10ml of Light Tobacco mixture that I now add to other tobacco flavored stuff as the flavoring. In essense, a 10ml bottle of this should last me a few years. Just can't stand the overpowering sweet flavors. Hope that makes sense as well.
Thanks again.
I just mixed up a few sample bottles (4ml worth in each of 18mg strength and 75pg/25vg ratio) with Ry4 flavoring and 7 Leaves Ultimate with 2 drops in each bottle or 2 drops per 4ml. I will try to let it steep a few days before sampling... Question: I do not have any Ethyl Maltol. Is there a good substitute for sweetener, as I have a ton of fruit flavors etc., that I like to add minimally to pre-mixed tobacco flavors.. Any advise on this substitution is most appreciated. I don't like nutty flavors, or overly sweet... maybe just a hint, but thought I might get some masterful advise...
Thanks in advance!
Edit: Btw, when I meant not overly sweet, I use a blueberry mix that totals 10 drops per 10ml of Light Tobacco mixture that I now add to other tobacco flavored stuff as the flavoring. In essense, a 10ml bottle of this should last me a few years. Just can't stand the overpowering sweet flavors. Hope that makes sense as well.
Thanks again.
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Cotton Candy flavoring is made from ethyl maltol. You can use that if you have it.
personally, I never had any luck with tobacco absolute, diluted or not. For the last year or so, all I vape is:
2.75% tobacco express MLB
.5% fruit express caramel mocha
1.25% sucralose sweetener (flavor apprentice)
I prefer 50/50 pg/vg making 365 ML batches so I can just squirt in the whole 10Ml MLB.
2.75% tobacco express MLB
.5% fruit express caramel mocha
1.25% sucralose sweetener (flavor apprentice)
I prefer 50/50 pg/vg making 365 ML batches so I can just squirt in the whole 10Ml MLB.
Apple Pear Tobacco
8.8 ml your base of choice (i used 65/35 pg vg)
1% - FA Perique Black
2% - FA Latakia
2% - FA Apple
2% - FA pear
2% - EM 10% dilute in pg (or cotton candy)
3% - TPA Brown Sugar
Just made this one about 8 days ago and it is definitely my best one so far.Steep at least 7 days.
8.8 ml your base of choice (i used 65/35 pg vg)
1% - FA Perique Black
2% - FA Latakia
2% - FA Apple
2% - FA pear
2% - EM 10% dilute in pg (or cotton candy)
3% - TPA Brown Sugar
Just made this one about 8 days ago and it is definitely my best one so far.Steep at least 7 days.
gimmieshelter31... thanks. Cotton Candy I have. It tastes like Super Bubble bubble gum. I'll give it a whirl and let you know how it turns out.
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