I presume some company that had a product out pre-2008 has paid someone off but can someone fill me in on the details?
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That's what I was thinking too, but that's not it...IIRC, it was the date that the tobacco control act bill was first was introduced in Congress.
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That's what I was thinking too, but that's not it...
Legislative history
- Introduced in the House of Representatives as H.R. 1256 by Henry Waxman (D–CA) on March 3, 2009
- Committee consideration by: House Committee on Energy and Commerce
- Passed the House on April 2, 2009 (298–112)
- Passed the Senate on June 11, 2009 (79–17) with amendment
- House agreed to Senate amendment on June 12, 2009 (307–97)
- Signed into law by President Barack Obama on June 22, 2009
There you go, that is the answer.I believe it was first introduced 2/15/07.
Maybe it's because in 2007, e-cigs were not good quality, not like the choices that we have today. They were pre-filled carts, on cigalike batteries, no flavors, except "tobacco".
That alone, should kill the demand for e-cigs and I have no doubt that is what the FDA is hoping will happen.
I see your point, but will the FDA? Not likely.I don't see any issues. The only e-cigs I have are NJOY kings, which I use from time to time. My ProVari are regulated power delivery systems...
I've seen the answer before, but I don't remember what that answer was right now.
But I do not it's not the answer you are thinking it is.
On a related note:
What does everyone think the likelihood is of the grandfather date actually being moved forward to account for changes in regulation?
On a related note:
What does everyone think the likelihood is of the grandfather date actually being moved forward to account for changes in regulation?
It would have to be by Congress (they'd have to amend the act) and under the current situation in the Senate - I'd say it had 0% of being changed unless Zeller would see the light - unlikely - to put in his bid to congress for it. Even then, I think it couldn't get through committee.
Yeah, our chronically inactive congress isn't going to be very helpful seeing as how the deeming regulations are set to go into effect next year it's unlikely that, under any circumstances, congress will vote on it by then...
It's still unclear exactly when the final rule will come down - some predictions are that it won't be for a while. And it could be after the next election, in which case there would be a possibility of a change in one chamber that might allow an amendment before the regulations are put into effect. Of course, it could be amended even after it's put into effect, but many things would have to happen for that to come about, imo.
For one thing, within the '24 month' period, cigarette sales could continue to plummet and ecig sales could skyrocket and the results could show up in some polls that the smoking population could drop to, say 15% or lower, and that it could be attributed to ecigarettes .... THEN... there may be some who have opposed ecigarettes but were not part of an ideological group who want no cigarettes OR ecigarettes, where the former group could sway the vote to amendment. Again - not likely - but given those conditions, a probability.
Or perhaps, we will havea more effective congress in 2016 who puts the needs of the people before that of their pocketbooks and votes on legislation for the greater good of all... wait, scratch that, it will never happen!