Nic overload?!?!

[MaenadMoogle]

Bought two flavors to try out from a reputable vendor, pumpkin pie in a 30ml and apple pie in a 15ml. Both are supposed to be 12nic 50/50. . .
vaping apple is great. vaping pumpkin gives me a headache/lightheaded and makes me nauseous. What are my chances that the nic level is screwed up and too high and is the cause of this versus is it something in the flavoring that is wrong? I've never had this issue vaping, and it's ONLY a problem after vaping the pumpkin for a short while (seriously, like 10 minutes of vaping where I can vape the apple for 30 minutes or more with no adverse affects)

On the other side, if it is a nic issue, I JUST STARTED DIY so I have the supplies, but I'm not super confident yet, can somebody offer advice on how to dilute the juice a bit so that it's vapeable?

 

[sparkky1]

eLiquid DIY Nicotine Test Kit

Did you not download and study the calculator I suggested in a previous post to you ? eJuice Me Up - Best eJuice Calculator
There are multiple videos if you need tutorials on youtube.

How many mls are you vaping a day ?

 

[MaenadMoogle]

I can't use that calculator that everybody keeps suggesting. It HATES my ancient laptop and won't run. I was using a different one, but I'm not really sure how to put in a pre-made juice. . . should I just use it as my "base" and do the 12 nic 50/50 and go from there (even though, if this is an issue with nicotine it's clearly stronger than 12). . . I'm also concerned that this isn't just a Nicotine issue. if anybody has had issues with certain flavorings causing the same side effects, or if it is nicotine for sure. If it's a problem with the flavoring or something else causing my issues, I don't want to bother diluting it and still get sick from it, but I'm hesitant to just toss it because I do like the flavoring.

I've watched a bunch of the youtube tutorials and I'm comfortable with the mixing and everything. I just made my first ejuice from scratch and it turned out okay, i'm just hesitant to screw with something that is premade that I have NO idea what the actual concentrations or other issues are at this point.

I'm vaping between 3-4ml a day of the 12mg 50/50 and this is the first juice that has had any adverse affects. Nausea and headache happen after less than .5ml

 

[sparkky1]

Do you vape the different flavors in two different devices on the same mod @ same wattage ? What are they

 

[MaenadMoogle]

Same device. Istick30w and nautilus mini running around 18W.

 

[MaenadMoogle]

I was using them in two separate tanks and decided to try and control for everything possible, so I cleaned everything and used the exact same set up for a few different juices just to make sure it wasn't that one tank or coil.

 

[MaenadMoogle]

Thank you for the link to the test. I might have to get that and try it out to be sure what is actually going on here. I had no idea they made those.

 

[sparkky1]

Without knowing what the flavors contain (PG / VG / alcohol) it would be hard to calculate a perfect cut to just drop the nic, I would mix 50/50 VG/PG no nic in a 10ml bottle 1/4 way and fill to 3/4 to top with the pre mix, that should get the nic level down low enough to make a better determination.

 

[MaenadMoogle]

Thank you @sparkky1

 

[puffon]

I would contact the vendor. They should send you a replacement.

 

[MaenadMoogle]

@puffon I didn't even think of that as an option. . .

 

[sparkky1]

I would contact the vendor. They should send you a replacement.

What would you tell the vendor ?

 

[glointhedark]

How is the taste on the Pumpkin Pie? Does it taste right to you? I know when we got some from one of our favorite vendors, it took a couple of weeks of steeping for the cinnamon flavor to settle down before we actually started tasting the rest of the ingredients.

Did you let these eliquids steep at all before you tried them?

 

[MaenadMoogle]

I tried the pumpkin as soon as I got it, just to see and it was spice overload. Like, 100% nutmeg and cinnamon. It's been sitting for about two weeks now and it's definitely calmed down quite a bit. The spices became much more subtle, there is a touch of sweetness and graham cracker coming though now and the pumpkin is JUST starting to come out. I think it honestly needs at least a week or two more of steeping to get that good pumpkin flavor, which is why I'd like to fix it, I think it has the opportunity to be a great vape.
The apple strudel was the same way. HEAVY spice at first and a bit of an alcohol taste, and now it's sweet and starting to get a lot more apple to it, I think it also needs at least three weeks to be a good vape.

 

[VNeil]

What would you tell the vendor ?

I would tell the vendor the juice made me nauseous and gave me a headache

Mixing juice should be a science but you aren't there in the lab to make sure it isn't a monkey trying to create art

Considering juice is marked up a minimum 10X from basic cost of goods, it should be right, and perfect every time. Surely it should not give someone a headache and nausea. That would be my religion and philosophy if I bought juice. I make my own juice so I just complain to myself, saving the time of email.

 

[MaenadMoogle]

Update. I emailed the vendor explained that I'm having issues with one flavor, but that otherwise I'm very satisfied with my order, and they've offered to either give me store credit for the cost of the bottle, or to ship me a correct one free of charge.

I'm going to take the free replacement bottle and use my current one to experiment with diluting it down.

Thanks guys!

 

[Devilstompa]

I have experienced the same symptoms for me the nicotine was to high.

I can't use that calculator that everybody keeps suggesting. It HATES my ancient laptop and won't run. I was using a different one, but I'm not really sure how to put in a pre-made juice. . . should I just use it as my "base" and do the 12 nic 50/50 and go from there (even though, if this is an issue with nicotine it's clearly stronger than 12). . . I'm also concerned that this isn't just a Nicotine issue. if anybody has had issues with certain flavorings causing the same side effects, or if it is nicotine for sure. If it's a problem with the flavoring or something else causing my issues, I don't want to bother diluting it and still get sick from it, but I'm hesitant to just toss it because I do like the flavoring.

I've watched a bunch of the youtube tutorials and I'm comfortable with the mixing and everything. I just made my first ejuice from scratch and it turned out okay, i'm just hesitant to screw with something that is premade that I have NO idea what the actual concentrations or other issues are at this point.

I'm vaping between 3-4ml a day of the 12mg 50/50 and this is the first juice that has had any adverse affects. Nausea and headache happen after less than .5ml