Canada’s showdown with vaping is about to reach high noon.

[Hydroscopic]

Canada’s showdown with vaping is about to reach high noon. via CanTech Letter
http://www.cantechletter.com/2015/05/canadas-showdown-with-vaping-is-about-to-reach-high-noon

While the subsequent report recommends establishing a regulatory framework for electronic cigarettes, an outright ban doesn’t not look to be in the cards.

Obviously. That doesn't exactly alleviate the concerns about over-regulation.

The House of Commons Standing Committee on Health believes it has answers for this problem, which it describes as the risk of the “renormalization of smoking”. These include making e-cigarettes visually distinct from other tobacco products by not having a glowing tip or filter, prohibiting flavouring that specifically appeal to young people, preventing tobacco companies from placing their logos on vaping equipment, and securing e-cigarettes in child resistant packaging.

Having moved past the cigalikes years ago, I have almost zero disputes with all except the flavoring restrictions. I might argue on non-cigalike equipment that a small logo with the version is reasonable. I could care less about the LED. - Then again I'm not in Canada. Opinions, etc...

If you are looking for a scope of current various provincial regulations, a partial list is here:
Ahead of Health Canada's e-cigarette decision, a look at current rules via CTV News

 

[Vatigu]

"preventing tobacco companies from placing their logos on vaping equipment"

I believe this specifically means DuMaurier or Marlboro can't put logo's on devices. Unless they lump ecig companies with tobacco companies.
I think they want to prevent cross market promotion

 

[Hydroscopic]

I think they want to prevent cross market promotion

It is more like the Blu disposables advertising. They have their website printed across the battery. If you toss the battery and someone sees it, free advertising. Because it wasn't obnoxious enough that you paid the price of a pack of cigarettes for one, you get to be a walking billboard too.

Discouraging brand recognition. Etc...
[SAVING]The children.[/SAVING]

 

[caramel]

I'm looking forward to find some discarded Provari and Vaporsharks.

 

[sofarsogood]

The confusion in government is because there is a unique conflict of interest. Governments skim off the majority of tobacco revenues,, so much so that it is governments who are in the tobacco business. The tobacco companies are little more than the contractors who do the dirty work in return for a fraction of the money. Governments have no business passing judgement on ecigs unless and until they abolish tobacco excise taxes. If they don't do that they should shut up and get out of the conversation.

 

[nicnik]

The confusion in government is because there is a unique conflict of interest. Governments skim off the majority of tobacco revenues,, so much so that it is governments who are in the tobacco business. The tobacco companies are little more than the contractors who do the dirty work in return for a fraction of the money

That is the truth. Government is now doubling down on their oppression of us, by going after our best way out of smoking.

 

[Hydroscopic]

I'm looking forward to find some discarded Provari and Vaporsharks.

Ha! You never know. They might scare someone.
That'd be a good time to get into the recycling business.

"Let me handle that for you. kthx."

 

[Tache]

I think the thing that scares "government" (whether it be in Canada or elsewhere) the most, is that the "E-cig industry" is actually not two or three big tobacco corporations. It's thousands of independent manufacturers and retailers! They can't easily negotiate, influence or effectively regulate (this piece is evidenced by the Committee on Health saying - and I paraphrase here), It's gone too far to even consider a ban. Having said that, and although I don't agree with all of the recommendations, I do want to commend the committee on at least appearing to have a modicum of common sense and spending some time actually listening.

On that note, I encourage every Canadian vaper to write/email their MP to tell them (in no uncertain terms and backed by references to "good science" study results - politely of course {no one likes to be dictated to}) which of the recommendations you agree with and which you don't - and why for both situations. You know I even extend that invitation to vapers outside of Canada (I know you wouldn't have an MP in the "dog fight", so simply send your comments directly to our Prime Minister (link to follow later). Why? Because if we can get appropriate legislation in place in any country, it makes it easier to say - Hey that gang in XXXXXX are actually the leaders on this issue - don't get left behind. Think about what you would want to see in your country and make your voice heard - every time!

Contact link for Canadian Prime Minister Harper
Contact the Prime Minister | Prime Minister of Canada

 

[Caro123]

I think the thing that scares "government" (whether it be in Canada or elsewhere) the most, is that the "E-cig industry" is actually not two or three big tobacco corporations. It's thousands of independent manufacturers and retailers! They can't easily negotiate, influence or effectively regulate (this piece is evidenced by the Committee on Health saying - and I paraphrase here), It's gone too far to even consider a ban. Having said that, and although I don't agree with all of the recommendations, I do want to commend the committee on at least appearing to have a modicum of common sense and spending some time actually listening

On that note, I encourage every Canadian vaper to write/email their MP to tell them (in no uncertain terms and backed by references to "good science" study results - politely of course {no one likes to be dictated to}) which of the recommendations you agree with and which you don't - and why for both situations. You know I even extend that invitation to vapers outside of Canada (I know you wouldn't have an MP in the "dog fight", so simply send your comments directly to our Prime Minister (link to follow later). Why? Because if we can get appropriate legislation in place in any country, it makes it easier to say - Hey that gang in XXXXXX are actually the leaders on this issue - don't get left behind. Think about what you would want to see in your country and make your voice heard - every time!

Contact link for Canadian Prime Minister Harper
Contact the Prime Minister | Prime Minister of Canada

I guess it is time to get out my write to my mp and mla and everyone else I can think of pen again. Perhaps this time there is some hope of a successful outcome. The last time I was urging sanity regarding tobacco control aha heck I am retiring soon perhaps I could do something more fun such as a coast to coast walk in support of vaping - maybe I could call it the freedom March but I sort of think that was done before oh well perhaps an idea will come to me in the next few months, I don't think it can be a starvation thing Ghandi I believe did that, and Mandela did the prison thing, Mother Theresa did the love thing, bra burning was short lived. The vaping thing is a winner I am convinced of that -now how can I make a difference and have another little adventure in my declining years. thoughts we live in an age of technology surely I could incorporate that I suppose I can dust off my YouTube, Twitter and Facebook accounts I m still partial to a cross country March I need to ponder these things

 

[Caro123]

I was a little tongue in cheek with last post but in the past hour or so I have received a link to ecig alternatives and an appeal for assistance financial or otherwise for a lad named Vincent Van Heerden of Australia who has a lawsuit pending regarding electronic cigarettes does anyone know if this legit

 

[Mossy]

"I was a little tongue in cheek with last post but in the past hour or so I have received a link to ecig alternatives and an appeal for assistance financial or otherwise for a lad named Vincent Van Heerden of Australia who has a lawsuit pending regarding electroniccigarettes does anyone know if this legit"

This is very legit............ the case will be heard in August or Sept. He is a young guy in WA who needs all the support he can get. I gave money to the fighting fund. The idiot who drives this action is the head of Public Health in WA Mike Daube (a friend of Simon Chapman). He is the idiot who tried to stop the WA Opera from performing Carmen because it is set in a cigar factory

Here is a link to Vince's page I got an update today.

Ecigs. Our right not to smoke Tobacco. by Vince van Heerden - GoFundMe

 

[Maiar]

They're going to leave this up to the individual provinces to decide on. Because the feds don't want to spend any ....ing money on anything. I highly doubt any real regulations will come down on us, especially here in Saskatchewan. Regulations means the Sask government will have to spend money to make sure the regulations are followed. And they're already broke from not fixing our highways or infrastructure. So you can bet your ... that at least in Sask there will be massive taxes put on these things eventually. Our only saving grace is that there is a likely chance that their habit of not doing anything ever will lead them to just forget what they we're going to do anyways.
One thing is for certain though, they will find money to spend on .... we don't need like a new stadium for the Riders to play in and more money to throw into the oil industry.