Clones:Logo or no logo?
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I buy it with a logo, unless the logo is tacky. I also stick a vape band on it that says "yes, it's a clone."
Two people buy clones. One person feels better because he/she didn't get one with a logo. The original manufacturer stills feels ripped off by both people.
A friend of mine on this forum owns authentics and clones of a mod and atty, and had both listed in her signature. The manufacturer asked her to remove the reference to the clone in her sig, because she was posting in that manufacturer's thread. She spends $5,000 + on vape equipment yearly. Guess which manufacturer won't be getting her business anymore?
Edit: I should note that she bought the authentic because she liked the clones. She would never have purchased the authentic had she not tried the clones first.
What about the people who buy clones, and then buy authentic accessories for the clones? I've purchased real GPin springs and a 510 adapter for my heron clones and I'm deciding if I should order an erlkonigin 22mm steel tank from the manufacturer. What about IBTanked? If I buy a glass tank for the erlkonigin, am I getting a "clone" just because the original manufacturer also offers a glass tank at triple the price? Where does the line get drawn?
Two people buy clones. One person feels better because he/she didn't get one with a logo. The original manufacturer stills feels ripped off by both people.
A friend of mine on this forum owns authentics and clones of a mod and atty, and had both listed in her signature. The manufacturer asked her to remove the reference to the clone in her sig, because she was posting in that manufacturer's thread. She spends $5,000 + on vape equipment yearly. Guess which manufacturer won't be getting her business anymore?
Edit: I should note that she bought the authentic because she liked the clones. She would never have purchased the authentic had she not tried the clones first.
What about the people who buy clones, and then buy authentic accessories for the clones? I've purchased real GPin springs and a 510 adapter for my heron clones and I'm deciding if I should order an erlkonigin 22mm steel tank from the manufacturer. What about IBTanked? If I buy a glass tank for the erlkonigin, am I getting a "clone" just because the original manufacturer also offers a glass tank at triple the price? Where does the line get drawn?
How about the ZNA clones indeed. Say you send one in to Zen for the upgrade service, and get it back with the authentic DNA 30 that says "ZNA clone" on startup. It is now warrantied by Zen. Is it still a clone? Can it be sold on ECF classifieds? Has the stigma of it being a clone been washed away by the touch of Zen's hands?
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There needs to be an option for "custom logo". I don't think it's right that they just copy the original logo, but I would still buy it over the ones without the logo, just because they're too plain. I need to have something there.
Did not vote. I don't care if it has a logo or not. If I want it I get it. But I would rather buy fakes made on this side of the pond and not be sending my money across the pond.
No Logo. Adding a logo of the original authentic is unfair and deceptive. Also, cloning someone else's work is a rip off no matter how cheap.
Would you play and record someone's music and call it them when you yourself where the musician? Even though the music was the exact same but the vocals were off due to different vocal tones? I know I wouldn't buy that.
Would you copy word for word someone's book and try to sell it as them? I believe that is called plagiarism, and it is illegal.
How safe are the materials going it said clones to be so cheap? Are they food or medical grade?
Would you play and record someone's music and call it them when you yourself where the musician? Even though the music was the exact same but the vocals were off due to different vocal tones? I know I wouldn't buy that.
Would you copy word for word someone's book and try to sell it as them? I believe that is called plagiarism, and it is illegal.
How safe are the materials going it said clones to be so cheap? Are they food or medical grade?
Yeah, that's the way I see it too.
The design is sort of secondary in terms of the recognition of a product. It's the logo that'll fool someone into thinking a Tobh clone is authentic.
My Caravela and Tobh both have no logo. My Nimbus has a logo, but if you compare it to the authentic you'll see it's different. To be honest, I think the Tobh looks far sexier logo-less.
I agree, they should have their own logo... the clone vs counterfeit is bang on.
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