Well, it's been shuffled off to a subcommitte where the chairman and vice chairman are Repubs. The majority on the committee are Repubs. There are 51 co-sponsors to H.R. 2058.....All Repubs. Are they saving this bill for a "special" moment?
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"... the amendment passed by 31-19 despite the protestations of Democratic National Committee Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz."
Good first step. But we're not there yet. Not by a long shot.
*le sigh*
Any idea where I can find who voted how?"... the amendment passed by 31-19 despite the protestations of Democratic National Committee Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz."
Good first step. But we're not there yet. Not by a long shot.
*le sigh*
TIA,
Hazy
Thanks..I'll be digging deep. Will let everybody know when, if I find more out.
Would really appreciate if y'all let us know if you find out more.
Regards,
Hazy
I'm sure that our political people (SJ, Bill G, CASAA) will make an official announcement with more facts soon. I'd like to thank my representatives if they indeed voted for the bill.
Exactly..I'd like to either thank mine or give him a load of grief...
I hope you're correct about the CASAA folks informing us soon..maybe it's time to
drop in on our liaison's inbox..
Thanks, Katya.Do we know who is holding up H.R. 2058 in committee or why.......and when they're up for re-election?
Every member of the House is up for re-election this November and every 2 years.
From around 52min (Tom Cole speaking) in to 1:25 (vote)
Republicans
- Harold Rogers, Kentucky, Chairman - aye
- Rodney P. Frelinghuysen, New Jersey - aye
- Robert B. Aderholt, Alabama - aye
- Kay Granger, Texas - aye
- Michael K. Simpson, Idaho - aye
- John Abney Culberson, Texas - aye
- Ander Crenshaw, Florida - aye
- John R. Carter, Texas - aye
- Ken Calvert, California - aye
- Tom Cole, Oklahoma - aye
- Mario Diaz-Balart, Florida - aye
- Charles W. Dent, Pennsylvania - no
- Tom Graves, Georgia - aye
- Kevin Yoder, Kansas - aye
- Steve Womack, Arkansas - aye
- Jeff Fortenberry, Nebraska - aye
- Tom Rooney, Florida - aye
- Chuck Fleischmann, Tennessee - aye
- Jaime Herrera Beutler, Washington - aye
- David Joyce, Ohio - aye
- David Valadao, California - aye
- Andy Harris, MD, Maryland - aye
- Martha Roby, Alabama - aye
- Mark Amodei, Nevada - aye
- Chris Stewart, Utah - aye
- Scott Rigell, Virginia - aye
- David Jolly, Florida - aye
- David Young, Iowa - aye
- Evan Jenkins, West Virginia - aye
- Steven Palazzo, Mississippi - aye
- Nita M. Lowey, New York -no
- Marcy Kaptur, Ohio -no
- Peter J. Visclosky, Indiana -no
- José E. Serrano, New York -no
- Rosa L. DeLauro, Connecticut -no
- David E. Price, North Carolina -no
- Lucille Roybal-Allard, California -no
- Sam Farr, California -no
- Chaka Fattah, Pennsylvania - na
- Sanford D. Bishop, Jr., Georgia - aye
- Barbara Lee, California -no
- Michael M. Honda, California -no
- Betty McCollum, Minnesota -no
- Steve Israel, New York -no
- Tim Ryan, Ohio -no
- C.A. Dutch Ruppersberger, Maryland -no
- Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Florida -no
- Henry Cuellar, Texas - aye
- Chellie Pingree, Maine -no
- Mike Quigley, Illinois -no
- Derek Kilmer, Washington -no
Contrary to standard opinion watching the tape confirms what I have been saying all
along. The deeming regs release may not be here but, we are defacto users of tobacco
products. Yes that kind of tobacco. until this changes we might be unscathed in the short
term but, doomed in the long game.
Regards
Mike
along. The deeming regs release may not be here but, we are defacto users of tobacco
products. Yes that kind of tobacco. until this changes we might be unscathed in the short
term but, doomed in the long game.
Regards
Mike
I'll take "unscathed in the short term", Mike. Really. Getting rid of that horrible grandfather (2007) date will, de facto, allow all the vaping gear we're using today to stay on the market. That would be a great victory. Not ideal, but a huge victory nevertheless. Finger crossed. "Tobacco" will never be mainstreamed, like caffeine, but maybe nicotine will be, some day. Who knows.
@Katya Like mentioned in the tape nothing prevents the FDA from immediately
getting rid of the flavors or, further regulations in the future that would accomplish
what the 2007 grandfather date would accomplish immediately.
I agree it might give us the time to accomplish things that in fact may never
be taken back regulations or no. Time will tell. if we get the time.
regards
Mike
getting rid of the flavors or, further regulations in the future that would accomplish
what the 2007 grandfather date would accomplish immediately.
I agree it might give us the time to accomplish things that in fact may never
be taken back regulations or no. Time will tell. if we get the time.
regards
Mike
I agree. But I take a long view. And I do remember FDA's seizures of e-cig shipments from China in 2009... They tried to ban them altogether then. Here's a brief history:
The FDA and Electronic Cigarettes, a Timeline… by Steve k.
So we're making progress, I think.
The FDA and Electronic Cigarettes, a Timeline… by Steve k.
So we're making progress, I think.
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There was one commenter in the video who referred to e-vapes, e-vaping or e-vapers in lieu of e-cigs...something like that. That might be the type terminology that many have sought for a long time.
I'm glad I watched that. Legislators are hearing from their constituents and that is having an inflluence. Our grass roots efforts do matter (I can't believe I just wrote that). If I found myself talking to my legislator or any legislator I would bring up vaping before anything else and there must be a LOT of others who would do the same. I'm a single issue guy until they leave us vapers the h... alone.
Then I went back and looked at the vote tally. It's a very partisan issue. How can that be? I'm sure I'll be voting Republican this year.
Then I went back and looked at the vote tally. It's a very partisan issue. How can that be? I'm sure I'll be voting Republican this year.
Depends on what part of the tape you listened to - Dr. Harris made it clear that it was NOT a tobacco product. Or if you focused on Debbie (Blabbermouth) Schultz (Rush's appropriate nickname for her), you may have gotten another idea.
Andy Harris MD. (R-Maryland): (wiki)
Harris earned his B.S. in biology (1977) and his M.D. (1980) from The Johns Hopkins University. The University's Bloomberg School of Hygiene and Public Health conferred the M.H.S. in 1995 in Health Policy & Management and also Health Finance & Management.[3]
Harris served in the Navy Medical Corps and the U.S. Naval Reserve as a lieutenant commander on active duty during Operation Desert Storm and currently serves as a commander.[3] He has worked as an anesthesiologist, as an associate professor of anesthesiology and critical care medicine, and as chief of obstetric anesthesiology at the Johns Hopkins Hospital. Harris also served as commanding officer for the Johns Hopkins Naval Reserve Medical Unit from 1989 to 1992.
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