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Crazy clouds with Bakero wire

Discussion in 'Rebuildable Atomizer Systems' started by mikepointfive, Feb 24, 2013.

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  1. mikepointfive

    mikepointfive Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    But what is Bakero wire? Google Bakero wire and all you will find are videos of people making huge clouds and say theyre doing it with bakero wire, yet the actual Bakero wire itself still remains a mystery. Does anybody know what it is or would anybody care to speculate?
  2. bacc.vap

    bacc.vap Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 18, 2011
    I don't know, that's some dense vape though, could start some small rain storms.
  3. Hyelander

    Hyelander New Member

    Feb 21, 2013
    Los Angeles
    i wish ppl'd learn to use their cameras. it's kind of hard to tell, but it looks like it might be a type of flat wire.

  4. mikepointfive

    mikepointfive Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    I am a rebuildable addict. if this bakero wire exists, i must find it.
  5. Flcrack3r

    Flcrack3r Squid Life Verified Member ECF Veteran

    holy crap... i must find this as well... that is so insane!!
  6. Flcrack3r

    Flcrack3r Squid Life Verified Member ECF Veteran

    so i did some searching on the word Bakero, and according to google it means "stupid" in Japanese and "stupid person" in tagalan the Filipino language.. i also found a facebook page to a "ziggyvape" and he had posted " Bakero wire batch #2 sold out" that was a few days ago.. other then that i still dont know what the heck it is lol :(
  7. Roszam

    Roszam Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 10, 2012
    I suspect that this is just another name for the flat ribbon wire. may be wrong though.
  8. StereoDreamer

    StereoDreamer Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 13, 2012
    Columbia MD
    I've got a friend who is a jeweler, and he has a roller mill. I've been seriously considering asking him to mill some 24ga Kanthal so that is has some sort of texture like a ripple or bumps or some other sort of jewelry-wire-type surface. I imagine he's let me do it in his shop for free, if I wasn't going to get in his way.

    I'm thinking that maybe this "Bakero wire" is something like that--flat Kanthal that has been run through a jewelry mill with texture plates to give it a texture and therefore more surface area--which would theoretically produce more vapor. That's really the key to vapor production--high temperature + good wicking + maximum surface area of the coil wire...
  9. mikepointfive

    mikepointfive Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    you know.. if you took apart a toaster, theres tons of flat nichrome in there... hmm. i might go looking for a used toaster tomorrow =]
  10. mikepointfive

    mikepointfive Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

  11. Flcrack3r

    Flcrack3r Squid Life Verified Member ECF Veteran

  12. Thrasher

    Thrasher ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 28, 2012
    Madeira beach, Fla
    without knowing the rest of the setup wick, ohms, watts, juice etc dont be fooled into thinking this is caused by just the wire lol
  13. dsy5

    dsy5 Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 18, 2010
    New York
    You would need over 4 inches of that 30ga to get a 1Ω coil!
  14. mikepointfive

    mikepointfive Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    for me, the lower the ohms, the better.
  15. akmar808

    akmar808 New Member

    Jan 22, 2013
    bakero wire is a platinum ribbon flat wire.
  16. mikepointfive

    mikepointfive Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    where did you hear this? you know anything about the thermal tolerance of platinum like as far as how hot it can get before it melts?
  17. kuyog

    kuyog New Member

    Jan 3, 2013

    Bakero is a Japanese word with several layers of meanings, one of which implies "Crazy". It became a loanword to Filipino during the Japanese occupation in WW2.

    Back on topic.

    Platinum melts at 1768.3 °C (3214.9 °F).

    Some people I know in the local Philippine vaping circles reported that flat kanthal wire is available and has been used for crazy vaping.

    Since I only use a CE4 on an Ego-PT clone currently, I have not had the chance to try it out yet.
  18. ziggy2fast

    ziggy2fast Moved On

    Nov 5, 2012
    Hi guys...Sorry if the name I gave the flat wire is a bit weird...By the way, I'm Ziggyvape in youtube...I'm from Manila, Philippines.
    Most videos you see there are built with 2mm wicks(usually 3 strands/folds) and used with the wire I called Bakero...Reason for that was like this...

    I was given some flat wire samples of different sizes...I tried and used them all, and finally came to the last one...I literally CURSED on the spot after blowing the first vapor prod from my Nimbus atomizer...Hence, I called it Bakero...It's a term in Japanese...Peace and love to Japan ^_^

    At first I thought I just hit a one-time-insane-build, but after trying it on different atomizers I came to realize this wire had something to offer to the vaping community...Every build was as crazy as the previous one, and this was done with single and dual coil builds...

    I had no intentions of selling the wire, but the vaping public in the Philippines got curious as to what I was using...Eventually, I started marketing it...And the rest was history :toast:
  19. Tems

    Tems New Member

    Jan 14, 2013
    This wire is something else. Ziggy2fast was kind enough to had me sample these when they got in as we live about 2 blocks away from each other. Too bad his videos are not in english but he said he will be making some soon. As for the wire it is just AMAZING as a beginner I never had to deal with hotspots and building was so easy. Another advantage of this is that it brings the flavor out in the juice. I had a few bottles here that I felt was blah but after using this all of them are vapor now. The weird thing is for the amount of vapor and flavor it makes it does not eat a lot of juice. This is clearly a must try!

    By the way a lot of people have released similar wires here since then but the "Bakero" still performs better. Ziggy might be sending some to US shores last I heard. Give this guy a PM. Stand up guy here. Very accommodating.
  20. Daniel13

    Daniel13 Super Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 7, 2012
    google translates it to cowboy wire and it searches for barbed wire, sounds painful to wrap a coil with that hehe
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