E-cigarettes are NOT a gateway and they DO help people quit

[Louis V 93]

Just come across this article about some research Vapourlites have done with some pretty impressive figures. I like how they've used the results to argue in support of vaping and point out the anti-vaping trash. Good read and good news!

http://www.vapourlites.com/blog/vaping-the-victim-of-its-own-success.html

 

[choochoogranny]

Thank you, Louis V. He wasn't paid from some group to perform this survey, but he does have personal interest in vaping.......Which influences the outcome more do you think?

Ha! I've reached the age of skepticism in all reports/surveys scientific or otherwise especially since recent reports say eggs and whole milk are good for you after drinking 1% 40 yrs .....and bacon is bad.....AGAIN!!!

 

[AndriaD]

Thank you, Louis V. He wasn't paid from some group to perform this survey, but he does have personal interest in vaping.......Which influences the outcome more do you think?

Ha! I've reached the age of skepticism in all reports/surveys scientific or otherwise especially since recent reports say eggs and whole milk are good for you after drinking 1% 40 yrs .....and bacon is bad.....AGAIN!!!

Which just goes to show you that vegans are crazy, because anyone who's ever tasted bacon knows it's GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD..... Got 3 slices sizzling right now in fact.

Some folks will prefer to drink themselves to death. I'd rather bacon myself to death.

Andria

 

[choochoogranny]

LOL!!! Am with you, Andria; and I might even go back to eating my oatmeal with whole milk......Forgot what it tastes like!

 

[AndriaD]

LOL!!! Am with you, Andria; and I might even go back to eating my oatmeal with whole milk......Forgot what it tastes like!

I once tried the Silk soymilk, and was AMAZED by the taste, because I had been used to 2% milk for quite a few years, and the soymilk tasted like CREAM! No kidding. Cereal became a real taste-treat!

Now I just use 2% and a few drops of Capella Sweet Cream flavoring.

They can say whatever they like about this or that food -- I know my own body, and I *must* consume a very low-fat diet, or the consequences are EXTREMELY uncomfortable. That's particularly true for anything with cholesterol -- such as milk, eggs, or beef. Stupid gallbladder. Pork, OTOH, has almost NO cholesterol, so it doesn't bother me at all.

Andria

 

[choochoogranny]

Pork chops! Spare ribs! Yum! I'll go with that. Course I've lucked out so far with no gallbladder problem, but I've consequently wound up with a "fat bottom" problem. Low carb for me.....but I LOVE bread!!!!

 

[sofarsogood]

It's interesting that 1/3 of the respondents are mixing. I would have guessed a lower number. I've heard vape shop owners say 75% of their newbies end up stopping smoking so the online result is consistent with that. I started a brother of mine vaping last Christmas and he finally went to zero cigs a month ago. My hunch is as long as you don't stop vaping you'll stop smoking eventually. If I had realized how much money I could save vaping the money would have been a bigger influence in the beginning. If you mix and rebuild and don't buy anything you don't need you can have a quality vape for about $100 a year. That's basically free and I believe that is what will end the Tobacco Age.

 

[Kent C]

40 yrs .....and bacon is bad.....AGAIN!!

Wait a few more years - it will be a life saver Trans fats has already been debunked. Margarine is now worse than butter, eggs don't 'cause' cholesterol and now pumpkins cause global warming Soon.... so will turkeys and then Xmas carols.

 

[choochoogranny]

^^^^^^LOL !!!!! Remember the "grape scare", the alar episode that nearly brought down the whole apple industry? However, Chantix is STILL on the market......Live long enough and you see history repeat itself with the same stupidity over and over again. Guess a new generation must be scared into weenie "sheeple". .......I know that's redundant, but I just had to say it.

 

[AndriaD]

All I know is, if I had to live on kale and spring water, I'd shoot myself -- so much for quality of life! Love me some broccoli, but I'll be damned if I'll live without bacon and sausage.

Andria

 

[WharfRat1976]

Sorry to rain on this parade but the article is hogwash. It was written by the owner of the website it's attached to selling as much vape gear as FastTech has. 116 respondents (probably all his vape customers) to his 3 month online poll. 0% of respondents said they returned to analogs. The only sentence believable is in the conclusion stating vaping is effective in analog cessation. If you believe 75% quit entirely. I have a bridge in Brooklyn I am trying to unload.

This is not an article to be sending around saying "see. I told ya so."

 

[Tache]

0% of respondents said they returned to analogs.

The 0% is probably because the survey was limited to current vapers. You'd have to include all customers including those that only purchased once (or a few times) and never came back to capture those for whom vaping was not successful.

 

[skoony]

Sorry to rain on this parade but the article is hogwash. It was written by the owner of the website it's attached to selling as much vape gear as FastTech has. 116 respondents (probably all his vape customers) to his 3 month online poll. 0% of respondents said they returned to analogs. The only sentence believable is in the conclusion stating vaping is effective in analog cessation. If you believe 75% quit entirely. I have a bridge in Brooklyn I am trying to unload.

This is not an article to be sending around saying "see. I told ya so."

If this survey represents as you say his only customers which would no doubt
mean returning customers a 75% quit rate does not seem unreasonable in the
least. The fact he made his survey is a non-factor. The only difference between
him and a professional is a professional knows how to write the questions to
get the results wanted. Should this survey be written up in the New England
Journal of Medicine? No. Should it be taken for what it is? Good anecdotal
evidence. Certainly.

Regards
Mike

 

[supertrunker]

i'm not certain the professionals do a much better job, after all, the WHO considers bacon to be as carcinogenic as plutonium!

Highly credible.

T

 

[sofarsogood]

Ecigs are less risky than cigarettes. They are very effective at helping people stop smoking. They do steer kids away from tobacco. Everybody knows these things, even the people who dispute them.

 

[DrMA]

CDC's own data confirms the findings
http://dailycaller.com/2015/11/02/new-cdc-data-blows-away-popular-e-cigarette-criticism/

 

[AndriaD]

Thx, great link! I tweeted it, and added it to the "brilliant articles" links at my site!

Andria

 

[Kent C]

CDC's own data confirms the findings
http://dailycaller.com/2015/11/02/new-cdc-data-blows-away-popular-e-cigarette-criticism/

Don't think this is the same study as the Yale study -see other thread:

http://www.journalnow.com/news/loca...f51-b940-5dad-a2ba-3f9e53823978.html?mode=jqm

But back to back studies saying much the same thing. Only thing is while this piece spins it in the right direction, The CDC took the Yale study and the 'april' study that showed a drop in cigarette use and spun it the other direction. This will be good fodder for court.

IF the CDC itself, starts to report this as the article did - then that would be a paradigm shift, and may signal a change in view toward THR. The fact that they are now saying 20% (I believe it's higher still) of exsmokers have quit smoking with ecigs (used to be in the single digits or rejected out of hand), is something.

Thanks for posting.