Easyway to quit smoking Allen Carr

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MiloB

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I had a few friends try this method. The recreational smokers quit no problem. The one friend who smoked up to 2 packs a day for 30 plus years made it 6 days, then ran out and bought 3 packs and chain smoked 16 analogs.

I quit at the same time he did using the screwdriver. Now when I see him and he sees me vape as he chain smokes, he says to me "But you never quit". I told him I haven't quit nicotine but that's not what kills you in a cancer stick... I quit all the 4,000 chemicals that came with it. While you on the other hand.....:evil:
 

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Speaking of self medicating...

I have struggled for years with the symptoms of Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, a disease that causes the thyroid to cycle between hyper and hypothyroidism. Because none of my doctors could see past the great and almighty TSH lab test (tongue firmly planted in cheek on that part.) and the fact that my lab numbers would constantly go from one extreme to the next and back to normal, I was left undiagnosed for years.

The one time that I actually quit smoking for any length of time, 7 months and on Allen Carr's method, my thyroid promptly crashed and I was left with extreme hypo symptoms. I believe that my body did this in response to the lack of cigarettes. I also found that there are a large number of women out there (women being more susceptible to thyroid problems than men.) who also went into hypothyroidism after quitting. Whether this is mainly due to the destruction of the thyroid from the tobacco, or from the lack of nicotine which tends to stimulate it, I really don't know. What I do know is that I went back to smoking because I felt worse off the cigarettes than on, even with thyroid medication on board.

vaping though seems to have solved both of my problems, though I still have a couple of episodes a day where I get that same disconnected, panicky feeling that I associated with a need for an analog. I still give in on those two times a day, but I feel sooo much better already (not quite a week vaping), and I'm not sleeping on the couch for half the day either. ;)

As for Allen Carr's method, it did work for me for the most part, as long as I stayed away from cigarette smoke. The problem was, I could then smell it from a car that was passing me on the other side of the road going 35 miles an hour! :D
 

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I read this book a long time ago. I didn't quit using it...but at that time I wasn't ready to either.

I DO however know two people (a husband and wife) who quit using only this book. The last I saw them, they had been off of cigarettes for several months.

It is based on fighting the need for a cig psychologically. Unfortunately, for me...I needed more than that back then (and now). However, now that I've rediscovered the book thanks to this thread, I intend on reading it again. I think that it combined with the ecig should be an enormous help! :)
 
Thank you for all the info in this thread. I suffer from depression diagnosed 6 years ago after looking after a mother with dementia for about 8 years. Vaping has helped - down from 35/day to about ten/day. Vaping for 6 weeks now. Really interesting about the effects to the body of long term smoking it makes so much sense. I've been wondering why I've not cut down more. Vaping 18mg higher makes me "wosey". Smoking has all ways been my friend, something I would grab for if a bad thing happened or under stress. I knew it wouldn't really help but that was/is the mind set. I have thought with "self help" books that you take what you need or are ready for at the time you read them. Going to check all links - guess another excuse not to do house work!
 

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I tried. Didn't work for me. Then I tried the book and Wellbutrin, I quit for 4 months, gained 30 lbs, became depressed, unfocused, weepy and aggressive. Drove to a gas station in the middle of the night and bought a pack...

What worked for me this time was a combination of vaping, Swedish snus and dissolvables.
 

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Hey. Whatever works...works!
No need to bash the method entirely if it doesn't work for you. I doubt it would work for me. I'm just way too committed to the smoking (now vaping) routine. I'm too cynical to be hypnotized or conned into anything . My rebellious nature is way too powerful even to the point of killing myself with analogs.

That said, I had been smoking for over 40 years, most of it was 1 pack a day and had moved up in the last 10 or so years to 2+ packs a day. Caughing, wheezing etc. It was time to quite once and for all and I discovered e-cigs at exactly the right time. I was ready for them.

I also can't stress how important ECF has been. I sort of doubt that I would have stuck with it had I not found this forum. Community and shared experience reinforcement is powerful and in the case of ECF, a hell of a lot of fun!
It resonates with this old rebellious skeptic anyway.
 

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From Wikipedia:

Carr left his accountancy job in 1983 and set up his first Easyway clinic to help other addicts. He wrote ten bestsellers including his 1985 hit The Easy Way To Stop Smoking, which topped the non-fiction book charts in nine countries and remains the highest selling book on quitting smoking worldwide. The success of the original London clinic, through word-of-mouth and direct recommendation, has led to a worldwide network of 100 Easyway clinics in 35 countries plus the production of audio CDs and DVDs. Based on their full money-back guarantee, Carr's clinics claim a 95 percent success rate in helping smokers stop. Celebrity clients include Richard Branson, Anthony Hopkins, Ashton Kutcher, Britney Spears, Ellen DeGeneres, Charlotte Church and Mahesh Babu a popular telugu film actor

EasyWay has now been released for Nintendo DS and iPod Touch / iPhone


All Allen Carr's Clinics are run by dedicated therapists who were once smokers and used Allen's method to quit smoking. All therapists are Members of the Association of Allen Carr Therapists International (MAACTI).
I only add this to illustrate the Allen Carr is not part of the medical community, nor are the therapists who work in his clinics.

It seems the Allen Carr was just some guy who figured out a method that worked pretty well for him, and decided that it should work for everybody. This kind of assumption is rather short-sighted IMO. He went on to write books about a number of other problems (drinking, losing weight, etc.). He turned a tidy profit on his self-help empire before dying of lung cancer, but that's no reason to believe that he's speaking from anything other than his own experience.

If he had some credentials other than being a former accountant, I might be more interested in what he has to say. But as it stands, he wrote one successful book, then wrote a bunch of other books about problems which he has no expertise in. His empire has been extremely lucrative, and his clinics boast a 95% success rate, but I'd like to see a study on their long term results, most importantly the one year and five year marks. It's easy to stay on a program when you're in a clinic with people cheering you on, but how many stayed true back in the real world, where people are smoking around you, life is stressful, and cigarettes are easy to come by?

I don't mean to come off as dismissive, but I'm a skeptic by nature. If he was a doctor, a licensed therapist, an addiction specialist, I would be more interested in what he has to say. He based his program on his own experience, not medical science. That kills it for me.
 

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And Alcoholics Anonymous was started by a drunk that failed at two colleges and every job he ever held.

Sorry, absolutely no offense, but I would trust someone that has been exactly where I'm at before I would trust someone that hadn't, sheepskin or not. I've just dealt with too many holier than thou doctors and therapists that think they know more than I do about myself, simply because they learned to give tests and regurgitate lines from a textbook. :blink:
 

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Skimmed through that PDF and as far as I can tell, it's a jedi mind trick. Once you see through what he's trying to do, it simply won't work.

This sums up my experience with the book. Got it on the recommendation of others who quit successfully with it. Read it, and just got nothing from it. Just disagreed too much with it and found it far too easy to see through.

Works for loads of people though, so really something that needs to be tried out rather than dismissed because of a few bad reviews.
 

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Without buying the book can you explain exactly how this works.
Mr. Carr explains how you were brainwashed about smoking and that you are afraid to quit smoking because you think you cannot live without cigarettes. Armed with this new knowledge, you simply quit smoking. I read that book, watched the video, listened to the audio book and failed to quit. Reread and failed again. Gave it one more go and made it 11 days before giving in to my nicotine addiction. Worked for some: Ashton Kutcher, Ellen DeGeneres, etc.
 

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I read the book, loved it, for the first 6 weeks everything was great, I had stress in my life and picked up that first cigarette then started again, I did re-read it again but it didn't help, I think if you can go cold turkey then this is definately a helpful book as when I first read it I had no intentions of quitting but did (I had tried tons of different NRTS but nothing helped) I just started vaping and love it, no stress, no anxiety over not having my analogs, I'm stoked! Oh and hubby kisses me more lol!
 

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I actually read this book and it did work...for a little bit. It was strange, I read the book twice and nothing. The third time I read it, the last cigarette I had I looked at and it felt so alien. After that I didn't smoke for about 2 weeks, I didn't have any withdrawals and felt better immediately not even worried about depriving myself, it was really awesome, like a switch was turned off. After 2 weeks the switch came back on that sucked. The book did work for me though for a bit.
 
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