Ethyl Maltol

Discussion in 'DIY E-Liquid' started by skye, Mar 10, 2011.

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  1. skye

    skye Super Member Verified Member

    Hi eveyone,

    I am beginning to DIY my own liquids, and have been reading, and learning, a lot here on the forum.
    Thanks to everyone who has posted about DIY e-liquids. Y'all are great!

    I have a question about adding Ethyl Maltol. I know many suppliers add this, and some liquids smell strong of it. It doesn't taste good at all if too much is added, no matter how long I steep it. Is there anything I can do to tame it down some?

    Why add it? What does it do for the liquid? Does all e-liquid have Ethyl Maltol in it?

    Thanks to all for your answers, and any advice.

    Skye
     
  2. Para

    Para Ultra Member Verified Member

    It's a sweetner.....I dissolve it in PG and add to my recipes. If it's too sweet, simply add more PG to dilute it.
     
  3. Silent Soldier

    Silent Soldier Super Member

    Ethyl Maltol is the the main ingredient in the cotton candy flavor. most people who use it as sweetener add about 1 drop per ml of mixed juice. many also state that it it's a slow acting sweetener and needs time to steep. I personally don't care for it and am getting ready to experiment with making my own liquid sucralose sweetener from pure sucralose powder.
     
  4. skye

    skye Super Member Verified Member

    Ah ok.... and some suppliers use alcohol to dissolve the Ethyl Maltol crystals.
    So it's the alcohol I am smelling. yuck!

    Good to know I can use PG instead. Or like you said, Silent, use sucralose sweetener.
    Cause some of this stuff I've bought
    is un-vapeable, and I don't want to make anything like that.

    Thanks Para, and Silent.
     
  5. Silent Soldier

    Silent Soldier Super Member

    just make sure if you use sucralose to use pure powdered sucralose, the liquid sucralose sweetener has other additives you probably wouldn't want to vape. The liquid sucralose contains 25% by weight pure sucralose, the rest is purified water and preservatives.
     
  6. Switched

    Switched ECF Guru

    Ethyl Maltol acts as a buffer more than a sweetener IMO, although in greater qty it will add sweetness. It is normally dissolved 1/4tsp in 10ml of PG and used at 1-5% by some folks.

    I use it to take away the "dryness" felt with all tobacco flavours at 3%. It rounds out the vape without adding sweetness perse.

    With fruit flavours it is known to take off the edge/sharpness of certain flavours. That is why I call it a buffer rather than a sweetener.

    There is no need to dissolve it with PGA or alcohol. I believe this stems from folks mis-interpreting the proper dillution of TA (tobacco absolute) which does in fact need to be diluted in PGA for total suspension. TA diluted in both PG and VG separates after time. Depending how strong a tobacco flavour you like, TA is disolved at a ratio of 1-4 drops per 10ml PGA.
     
  7. crackbag

    crackbag Senior Member Verified Member

    i ordered a bottle of this to give it a try. ive been trying to nail down this pomegranate flavor forever im hoping this may help out
     
  8. crackbag

    crackbag Senior Member Verified Member

    i got the bottle today and ordered from Flavor Apprentice and it was nothing more than cotton candy.. they put a note saying it was the same thing.. is this true? i just want to make sure
     
  9. Silent Soldier

    Silent Soldier Super Member

    OSDIYS describes their pure Ethyl maltol as this:

    "Our Ethyl Maltol comes in a 6cc bottle and is filled with 5ml of pure Ethyl Maltol crystals.

    Ethyl Maltol is a very pleasant smelling chemical that is used as a flavorant for the food, beverage, tobacco, and fragrance industry. Ethyl Maltol can be described as having notes of caramelized sugar or cotton candy.

    Ethyl Maltol can sweeten/soften sharp flavors in liquid, especially tobacco absolute.

    Suggested dilution: Dissolve 1/4 teaspoon of Ethyl Maltol crystals in 10ml of PGA (Pure Grain Alcohol).

    Diluted mixture can then be added to your liquid. Start with one or two drops per 6ml of liquid. Add more to soften or sweeten liquid to your taste."

    The bottle of FA cotton candy I have lists the ingredients as: Propylene glycol, Ethyl alcohol.
     
  10. crackbag

    crackbag Senior Member Verified Member

    thank you for that so im golden then?!
     
  11. Silent Soldier

    Silent Soldier Super Member

    pretty much. I just made my own liquid sweetener from pure sucralose powder. The EM just wasn't doing it for me. I might still use it to "soften" some flavors but as a sweetener it just wasn't getting the job done for me.
     
  12. Switched

    Switched ECF Guru

    Yup! Either can be substituted.
     
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