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[Eskie]

Again, not to say mixing by weight is wrong, but how can you rely on a kitchen balance that only reads to 0.01 g
to measure out 0.454 g. In my experience with scales, especially for milligram weight, an inexpensive kitchen scale won't be all that accurate. Now granted, if the scale is always off by the same amount on every weight, it probably won't matter for you (although it would to anyone trying to replicate your recipe by weight). But just because a scale "reads" 0.01 g does not mean it's accurate to 0.01 g, or 10 mg. Of course, if you're mixing say 250 ml at a time, it's probably fine, but for test batches of 5 ml, you would really require something quite accurate in that range.

Has anyone tried using a weight calibration set to determine how accurate those scales are? I guess I'm just used to using analytical scales that are quite a bit more expensive when working in the mg range.

 

[Fozzy71]

@Eskie Scales that read to thousandths are prohibitively expensive so most just use ones that read to the hundredths and round the thousandths place up or down. At that level of accuracy I feel confident I am more accurate with a scale than I could be with a graduated pipette/syringe. I have a 500g weight to calibrate my scale and a 100g weight to check it (I check it before almost every mixing session.

 

[nostradadus]

Gotta say, INW Am4a is nice synthetic tobacco. I've enjoyed touting up my NET with it as of late.

 

[Exchaner]

Hi everyone, it might be immaterial whether you mix by weight or volume. You will get the same result each time you make a recipe - as long as you use the same instruments. Accuracy only counts when trying to replicate someone else's recipe. At least that is what I think...

 

[Fozzy71]

Hi everyone, it might be immaterial whether you mix by weight or volume. You will get the same result each time you make a recipe - as long as you use the same device/equipment. Accuracy only counts is when trying to replicate someone else's recipe. At least that is what I think...

ignoring cleanup time, and money spent on syringes/pipettes, I would agree

 

[Eskie]

So tried out my Hangen juices after a 4 day steep. Obviously taste judgement are totally subjective. Highway 5% with 1% EM was meh at best. What taste there was seemed very dry, kind of reminded me of a cigarette towards the end of a burn. I guess that makes it very close to true tobacco, but it wasn't for me. I'll let it steep at least another week before drawing any conclusions, and hopefully it will improve down the road.

Desert Ship 4% with 1% EM is very nice. A little light but very smooth. I could just about keep this recipe and not alter it and have a pleasant vape with it. I'll see how this holds up over time as well, but it's promising with only a few days steeping.

 

[aceswired]

Have you considered trying to mix those without the EM? Just a thought, but I'm not sure why it's needed in either Highway or DS. Or really, in any tobacco mix, for that matter. Personal preference is personal preference, of course. But I think the vast, vast majority of us here wouldn't add EM.

 

[Eskie]

Have you considered trying to mix those without the EM? Just a thought, but I'm not sure why it's needed in either Highway or DS. Or really, in any tobacco mix, for that matter. Personal preference is personal preference, of course. But I think the vast, vast majority of us here wouldn't add EM.

Just for a touch of sweetness. I'll be mixing up some smaller samples with both at different concentrations, and can try with and without for comparison. I also have some No.5 coming in, so I'll be comparing that as well.

 

[JD1]

Just for a touch of sweetness. I'll be mixing up some smaller samples with both at different concentrations, and can try with and without for comparison. I also have some No.5 coming in, so I'll be comparing that as well.

I like EM but just a small drop per 4 to 5 ml. If you haven't tried them yet I'd suggest TFA Sweetener and TFA Brown Sugar Extra. I like those much better and seldom use EM in any of my mixes anymore.
For some stronger tobacco flavors, be sure and check out the SC line, available from BC and other vendors. Recommended usage is 2.5 % for them. I usually mix them at 3% stand a lone, but I like my 'baccy pretty strong.

 

[stanleybb50]

I like EM but just a small drop per 4 to 5 ml. If you haven't tried them yet I'd suggest TFA Sweetener and TFA Brown Sugar Extra. I like those much better and seldom use EM in any of my mixes anymore.
For some stronger tobacco flavors, be sure and check out the SC line, available from BC and other vendors. Recommended usage is 2.5 % for them. I usually mix them at 3% stand a lone, but I like my 'baccy pretty strong.

Awesome! Any particular recommendations on specific tobaccos from SC?

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[aceswired]

Been enjoying FA Tuscan Reserve. Very mild cocoa note on a clean tobaccoish base. Reminds me a little of a Hangsen-type profile.

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[Alter]

The SC I've tried is SC Cohiba and SC Real Cig, both from BCV. The Cohiba is a sharp ashy cigar type that I use at 1.25% or else its overpowering. Makes a nice background note to my hangsen-TA blends. The SC Real Cig smells and tastes exactly like the SC Cohiba so I dunno if there is a difference that I don't notice. I vape so very little of the ashy taste so this flavor will last a long time.
Sorry Aceswired....FA Tuscan Reserve smells stale and old to me right from the concentrate. I have some others that have that stale old smell also and IMO....YUK.

 

[JD1]

Awesome! Any particular recommendations on specific tobaccos from SC?

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SC French Pipe is lip smacking good.

SC Real Cig is sort of a Marl type flavor. A bit too much ash for me stand a lone but I use the heck out of it mixed with my other tobaccos.

SC Cohiba is a great broad leaf tobacco that doesn't seem to have much of anything else added to it. It makes a great base for adding other flavors to take it any direction you want to go.

SC Cigar is really good as well.

They have a distinct flavor though so I'd recommend picking up just a couple of them until you see if they're for you or not.

 

[aceswired]

It's got a leathery note to it. Maybe that's what gives you "old"?

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[stanleybb50]

SC French Pipe is lip smacking good.

SC Real Cig is sort of a Marl type flavor. A bit too much ash for me stand a lone but I use the heck out of it mixed with my other tobaccos.

SC Cohiba is a great broad leaf tobacco that doesn't seem to have much of anything else added to it. It makes a great base for adding other flavors to take it any direction you want to go.

SC Cigar is really good as well.

They have a distinct flavor though so I'd recommend picking up just a couple of them until you see if they're for you or not.

Awesome - thanks!

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[nostradadus]

SC French Pipe is lip smacking good.

Agree with you whole heartedly on that statement. It's a great tobacco to use as an anchor for mixes or just adding a bit of INW DNB or touting up a NET; I've used it as base tobacco with some of my Virginia NET....de-lish!

The SC Turkish, to me, is right up there as well.

The only SC which I do not enjoy that much is the Virginia Flue Cured.....too rose floral for my tastes. But, I have used it at low percentages in the mix for a slight lift for dull tobaccos. It has that same potent flavor kick much like the Nicotiana Rustica; very bright. I have to stay below .5% with the N Rustica (10% dilution ratio).

 

[JD1]

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The only SC which I do not enjoy that much is the Virginia Flue Cured.....too rose floral for my tastes. ..........

I didn't care much for it either, but for me it was the silage note that did me in lol.

 

[aceswired]

I saw that flv released 100 new flavors before the deadline, with quite a few tobaccos.

Flavorah FLV - New Flavors - Available Right Now!

Anyone try any yet?

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[nostradadus]

Anyone try any yet?

I'm going to enjoy the new FLV tobaccos vicariously through others for the time being. I'm enjoying the ones I do have (Kentucky Blend, Red Burley & Oriental), but I can't wait to hear about the other selections as they are released. After purchasing so many synthetic tobaccos over time, I'm going to hold back for a while, use what I have, hone my NET skills and stock my shelves for the future.

 

[JimzDogz]

You guys sound a lot like me with the Indiain, highway, DS and No.5. I love the nutty earthy tobaccos complemented with a little AP and a touch of EM or sweetener. I also like to complement those with a touch of chocolate. I always seem to gravitate back to the No.5.

I agree totally with the HS #5. I've use HS #5 in a mix that I use daily for about 3 yrs. now and it is fantastic. For a while HS stopped producing #5, so I switched to Highway as an alternative. Though it is a viable alternative it just doesn't work as well for me. When #5 became available again I stocked up in case of some future disruption in supply. I made 1.5 L of juice a couple of days ago, so I'm set for about 6 mos.