It's official. E cigs to be registered as a medicine in the UK.

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  1. rothenbj

    rothenbj Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Jul 23, 2009
    Green Lane, Pa
  2. e-pipeman

    e-pipeman Vaping Master ECF Veteran

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    "Deborah Arnott, chief executive of ASH, said: "MHRA regulation can ensure that adult smokers can continue to be able to buy e-cigarettes as easily as tobacco, but promotion to children or non-smokers will be prohibited."

    If that's all that is involved I'd support the move. If however we have to by our stuff exclusively from pharmacies at 2mg or lower strength then I would be violently opposed to this.
     
  3. Petrodus

    Petrodus Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Oct 12, 2010
    Midwest
    Quote from the article
     
  4. rothenbj

    rothenbj Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    E-cigarettes to be regulated - MHRA - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk

    A second article. The problem is the approval process and ultimately who will be capable of passing the "stringent testing". Ultimately, the costs will increase dramatically, I suspect.

    Of course their research is based on pharma standards used for drugs as opposed to the standards used on cigarettes.
     
  5. tddman66

    tddman66 Senior Member ECF Veteran

    May 4, 2013
    Illinois
    Fight fire with fire.... Put the push on to do the same with tobacco....
     
  6. CES

    CES optimistic cynic Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    this is not a step in the right direction.....
     
  7. jtpjc

    jtpjc Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 8, 2010
    Netherlands
    In 2016 a lot will have changed. The arguments they use today will no longer be valid by then. I hope.
     
  8. Oliver

    Oliver ECF Founder, formerly SmokeyJoe Admin Verified Member ECF Veteran

    This is a terrible decision, although I'm not surprised it's happened. I think we're about to witness a long drawn-out court battle.

    I will write further on this shortly, once I've collected my thoughts - but it has serious implications elsewhere. We already know that the MHRA will be pushing for the EU to follow suit, and once this has happened I think we can say goodbye to the current e-cigarette industry in Europe.

    What remains on the market in 3 year's time is anyone's guess - but I don't believe it will be the products that vapers want and need.
     
  9. e-pipeman

    e-pipeman Vaping Master ECF Veteran

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    Yes. It will be interesting to see if manufacturers will be able to get licences for anything more powerful than a feeble cigalike using 2mg liquid.
     
  10. jSquared

    jSquared Super Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 23, 2013
    London, UK
    Thanks for getting back to us, Smokey.

    I'd also like to take this opportunity to thank you for all the hard work you've done for us so far. I'm so sorry it has come to this.

    Looking forward to reading your thoughts.

    JJ
     
  11. Timboo

    Timboo Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 1, 2013
    United Kingdom
    Well that sucks :-\ least we got enough time to stock up.

    Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2
     
  12. icehunter

    icehunter Full Member

    Sep 2, 2012
    uk
    ok so immediate impact is nouthing
    hardware will aways be available just like buying a lighter or pipe
    now diy should not change if you buy from a licence chemical suppliers

    what will it hit the company making elite and the other disposable cig yes big time

    will it stop the mum and pop resell web sites no it may increase price but how many sites do we know were they make there own hardware ? very few there mostly reseller

    so the question is what's the real impact my take is it will stop unasfe supplier of liquids that we just dont know whats in it .a label may say 54g or
    pg but the truth is you just dont know how its been made cut or anything so onthat side it can be good news
     
  13. Markh5682

    Markh5682 Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 3, 2013
    Chorley, Lancs, UK
    It could have been a lot worse.
     
  14. jerzi

    jerzi Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 18, 2013
    Florida, USA
    They didn't ban ecigs, and are allowing them to still be unregulated for a 3 year period, until they can figure out a way to have regulations on them which won't create a major impact on the ecig community is far from terrible.
     
  15. Switched

    Switched ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Feb 18, 2010
    Dartmouth, NS Canada
    so true, so true :(
     
  16. AttyPops

    AttyPops Yeah, I type stuff. ECF Veteran

    The "challenge" I have with this "regulation mentality"...is that it backfires.

    Example:
    Let's say, for example, that in the USA we decide to make e-cigs and NRT's prescription-only. Thus, only available to tobacco users trying to quit/switch.

    What would happen? I guess, if you want nicotine, you'd have to start smoking so you could then turn around and get a prescription???? lol.
    What happens with cigs? Are they prescription only? No. But e-cigs are. :facepalm:

    I know, it's been said before. CES even has it in her signature line. Which are they trying to ban and why?

    What about NRT's in the UK? Prescription only?

    Grrrrrrrrrrrrr
     
  17. Switched

    Switched ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Feb 18, 2010
    Dartmouth, NS Canada
    A man condemned to the death penalty and gets a stay of execution, is still condemned to die at some point unless he receives a pardon. The industry has received a stay of execution, nothing else... so yes it is terrible unless the decision is overturned. May not affect us initially but it has the potential to!
     
  18. Switched

    Switched ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Feb 18, 2010
    Dartmouth, NS Canada
    Why would you want nicotine is the ?
     
  19. jSquared

    jSquared Super Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 23, 2013
    London, UK
    Exactly how? An outright ban with immediate effect was never really on the cards - not in the UK. A lot of us have seen this coming for a very long time, and, believe me, it doesn't get much worse than this. It may well be just the first nail in the coffin, but the lid's already on.

    JJ
     
  20. jerzi

    jerzi Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 18, 2013
    Florida, USA
    Ecigs weren't condemned to death., Ecigs have already got the pardon, they just need to fight for the terms of release.
     
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