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Katdarling

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Hi.

I've been reading (endlessly) on ECF for the last few weeks having just started vaping. I'm smoke-free for 2 weeks, 1 day and 12 hours! (smoker for 30+ years)

I quickly moved from the 510 to a box mod then to the ego tank. I keep reading and reading trying to find someone who is experiencing the same issue I have with it. So far, I have not.

My issue with the ego t is with the whistle tip! When I take a draw on it, I get a constant shot of cold air against my tongue or any part of my mouth to which it is pointing. The vape is cold, too airy, and the flavor is minimal. I have tried putting a fingertip over one of the air holes on the battery end of the atty, and that only helps a little bit. If I hit on it quickly (as in smoking a cig), that helps a bit, but all in all, it's not a very tasty or comfortable vape.

Has anyone else experienced this? Does someone have a suggestion? Are there any other tips that can be used on the tank?

I wanted to love this immediately, but I think we're still in the courting phase ;)

My best to you all. Feels good to know I've got a community that understands not smoking. (By the way... I never wanted to quit. I loved smoking, but the technology of vaping was just too damm interesting to pass up! So, it just, welp, happened ;)

Kat~
 
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Hey Kat,

I find i have the same sensation when i go from my drip tip to the ego-t, but after a couple of priming hits on the ego-t it seems to feel better and have that slightly warmer taste to it.
If you wanted to permanently reduce the airflow, try using a little bit of blu-tac or similar on the cart, just plug up one of the air holes in the middle of the tank cartridge and that should halve the airflow.

Hope this helps!

-matt
 

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Sounds like the problems I had with my eGo-T on two different atties. If you'd also said "tastes like plastic", it would be exactly the same issues I had.

I'm ditching my tanks and going back to kr8 cartos on a PigCig and passthroughs. I've also got a 501 batt to 808 carto adapter coming, so I'll see how well the ego batteries do with that. But I'm done with tanks for a while. The technology is interesting but has a long way to go before it's satisfactory for me.

Also still eyeing juice box mods, but I'm going to wait a couple months before trying anything else new :)
 

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toddos,

Thanks. It does not taste like plastic. It tastes very little actually. I'm not quite sure what I will do with the tanks, but I find myself going back to my 510 box mod and dripping.

I also found the technology interesting, which is what got me into vaping in the first place! I never even wanted to quit cigs, but here I am, 2 weeks and a day later.

I'm eyeing juice box (bottom feeder) mods too! Let me know what you come up with. Like you, I have to put things on hold after spending mega dollars on so much juice (and some I don't like! Grrrrrr!).

Kat~
 

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I agree with toddos.

You can take the chamber out of the whistle tip by popping it out with the eye of a needle (paper clip may bend too easy) for a more direct airflow, but you may get juice in your mouth or leaks if the suction doesn't balance. Can't hurt to try because you can put it back in.


The whistle mouth pieces are really airy by design. Vape travels a long way through those chambers before it hits your mouth. eGo-T seems to be a taste killer by design. It's a good PV if you don't mind an occasional leak and always vape clear menthol or something strong with no sediment. No subtle flavors, dessert flavors, or coffees work well and often clog the juice flow up. It needs another generation or so to work properly, but it has potential.

I am curious if the color of the tank matters. I have all white/clear and the plastic seems rather brittle and I can pick up a very slight plastic taste just sucking air through by itself. I wonder if the blue or black plastic has a different makeup--less prone to leaks because of a better seal. What do you have Toddos?

Toddos, There really isn't anything plastic in the design except the tank. Is the bottom of your tank melting against the needle plate? The hard plastic dish the atomizer sits in isn't suppose to burn at all and I haven't heard anyone saying they found melting for burning when they take them apart. You should pull your needle plate and see what's going on down there. It's pretty easy to put back.

Katdarling, It takes a long time for the atomizer to break in and give flavor. You also could still have primer in the mesh holding area. Give it a good wash in Vodka, Grain Alchohol, or hot water to push some out. Blowing doesn't reach the mesh. If you are getting vapor and no burning taste, you are getting juice, it is just not hot enough to bring out enough flavor. Keep trying with you least favorite juices, eventually you'll be able to tell them apart but you'll never get great flavor.
 
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Toddos, There really isn't anything plastic in the design except the tank. Is the bottom of your tank melting against the needle plate? The hard plastic dish the atomizer sits in isn't suppose to burn at all and I haven't heard anyone saying they found melting for burning when they take them apart. You should pull your needle plate and see what's going on down there. It's pretty easy to put back.

I have the clear-with-black-tip tanks and get the plastic flavor. It's not a melted plastic flavor and the tanks certainly are not melting in any way. It's most likely a combination of the long flow of the vapor to get from atty to tip like you mentioned, plus flowing through the tip's air holes picking up some plastic flavor from the tip after all of the real flavor of the vapor is gone. I'll try pulling apart the worst of my two atties over the weekend and see what's going on.

Maybe it's just a matter of adjusting the wick and plate, but I think you really nailed it with your description of the airflow path. It's just so long that by the time it gets to your mouth there's really not much left at all. Vapor production is good, just no flavor and off tastes from the tip and probably some dry burning up in the atty due to poor wicking.

Edit: Is there a recommended method of pulling the needle plate? Just get in there with some needle-nose pliers? I've seen threads showing the aftermath of pulling stuff apart, but no real description or pictures or videos of exactly how to pull it apart without breaking anything.
 

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Thanks so much for my color plastic theory. Check out the photos in my profile album. The wick is hanging in that metal channel in the bottom of the wick plate right up against the mesh ring, so some may be going to the atomizer, some may be feeding that mesh resevior chamber. If you fill it with water or a cleaner, shaking it may move the wick around a bit without taking it out. Just don't pull the wick out if you try it, because mine and someone else on that long thread's crumbled. I am still waiting for silica rope to make a new one.

Then again it's probably futile, I can drip directly on the atomizer and stove pipe it and get good flavor but as soon as I put an empty whistle tip on the flavor drops substantially. It's a design thing. I think they need better tanks with a good gasket and better mouth piece. I'd pay more for ones that work, especially since if they were made better they'd last forever.
 
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might have missed if it was posted already, but just try taking a slower easier drag. you might be sucking too hard. Just a guess from a newbie.

Brew

You're probably right, it is a suction system. But light drags substantial change the way a person might like to vape and if you're juice is thick you have to suck hard to get it flowing.

It's hit or miss depending how clean your wick is, how thick your juice is, and whether the battery hole is blocked.

Another design flaw on the tank is how the channel under the side of the two air holes goes all the way down to the bottom under the cap. I know they did this to get it off with a finger nail, but there is very little plastic (just the bit touching the bottom) keeping juice from flowing up that channel should your battery air way get blocked or you suck too hard. I've sucked my share of juice up that channel just by accidentally putting my fingers over an air vent on the outside of the ego.
 

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I agree with toddos.

You can take the chamber out of the whistle tip by popping it out with the eye of a needle (paper clip may bend too easy) for a more direct airflow, but you may get juice in your mouth or leaks if the suction doesn't balance. Can't hurt to try because you can put it back in.


I think I might try that, jj! As you said, I can always put the tip back in, or use another of the 4 I have.


The whistle mouth pieces are really airy by design. Vape travels a long way through those chambers before it hits your mouth. eGo-T seems to be a taste killer by design. It's a good PV if you don't mind an occasional leak and always vape clear menthol or something strong with no sediment. No subtle flavors, dessert flavors, or coffees work well and often clog the juice flow up. It needs another generation or so to work properly, but it has potential.

You've definitely hit on something here (no pun intended). I ordered some juice, and it is absolutely just my opinion, as everyone else seems to love it, but the juice which is Liquid Xpress Honey Flu Cured was just too strong for me and tasted like a bad cig. I got it in the PG and the VG just to test it out. I used in in my 3.7 box mod, and couldn't handle it. Then I thought welp, if it's too strong, let's put it in the Flavor Killer (the Ego T) and see! Whaddya know, it's good! So yes, strong juices are a must in this thing. Who knew.

I am curious if the color of the tank matters. I have all white/clear and the plastic seems rather brittle and I can pick up a very slight plastic taste just sucking air through by itself. I wonder if the blue or black plastic has a different makeup--less prone to leaks because of a better seal. What do you have Toddos?


I have the black tanks and get zero plastic flavor, just by the way.


Toddos, There really isn't anything plastic in the design except the tank. Is the bottom of your tank melting against the needle plate? The hard plastic dish the atomizer sits in isn't suppose to burn at all and I haven't heard anyone saying they found melting for burning when they take them apart. You should pull your needle plate and see what's going on down there. It's pretty easy to put back.

Katdarling, It takes a long time for the atomizer to break in and give flavor. You also could still have primer in the mesh holding area. Give it a good wash in Vodka, Grain Alchohol, or hot water to push some out. Blowing doesn't reach the mesh. If you are getting vapor and no burning taste, you are getting juice, it is just not hot enough to bring out enough flavor. Keep trying with you least favorite juices, eventually you'll be able to tell them apart but you'll never get great flavor.


JJ, I've heard that (that it takes awhile to break in the atty). How long is awhile? I just ordered another atty, so I'll report back on that one. When I got the first one, I put it right in with juice and never once tasted primer. Didn't even clean it for a few days, so again, who knows. And I did clean it with hot water and a vodka rinse. Gotta love a product that you'll never get great flavor from... hmmm.
 

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JJ, I posted so poorly no one would be able to understand, so I'm reposting my reply to you.


I think I might try taking the whistle tip off as you suggested. I can always put the tip back in, or use another of the 4 I have.

You've definitely hit on something here (no pun intended) about using stronger juice. I ordered some juice, and it is absolutely just my opinion, as everyone else seems to love it, but the juice which is Liquid Xpress Honey Flu Cured was just too strong for me and tasted like a bad cig. I got it in the PG and the VG just to test it out. I used in in my 3.7 box mod, and couldn't handle it. Then I thought welp, if it's too strong, let's put it in the Flavor Killer (the Ego T) and see! Whaddya know, it's good! So yes, strong juices are a must in this thing. Who knew.

I have the black tanks and get zero plastic flavor, just by the way.

JJ, I've heard that (that it takes awhile to break in the atty). How long is awhile? I just ordered another atty, so I'll report back on that one. When I got the first one, I put it right in with juice and never once tasted primer. Didn't even clean it for a few days, so again, who knows. And I did clean it with hot water and a vodka rinse. Gotta love a product that you'll never get great flavor from... hmmm.

Again, here's hoping G3 is a LOT better than this!
 
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