New Member New vaper - Question about Ego-C+ atomisers

[Xafia]

Hi Guys

I have a few questions in reference to my Totally Wicked Tornado Mega eGo-C+ 1000mAh


I have been stopped smoking now 6 weeks and going really well, the kit I bought had all the kit I needed to get "vaping" the spare atomisers within the starter kit lasted a good few weeks I have since bought more spare atomisers , however, im having some problems with them lasting as long as the ones that came in the starter kit rather than them lasting a few weeks they only seem to be lasting a few days before dark liquid leeches into the hoper tank which I suspect is coming via a burnt out atomiser the taste is not as pleasant and im experiencing a sore throat from this, am I missing something do I need to prime the atomiser? I never let the tank get too low. My local stockist says it depends how often I vape on it, yes I understand that but im vaping less on it than I was in the beginning and the original atomiser lasted like I said weeks rather than days any hints tips or advice is muchly appreciated.


Paul

 

[Katya]

Hi Xafia and welcome. What kind of juices are you using? Are they dark/sweet to begin with? If so, they will gunk up your coils very fast.

There is a way to clean and dry burn those atties, but it is A PITA. eGo-C atties are sort of old technology--use them up, but I suggest you switch to better toppers once you're done with them. Kanger BCC clearomizers would be a huge step up from eGo-C atties, IMHO.

 

[Katya]

Here's the best tutorial on eGo-c atties I've seen--by Vicky from Cignot:

 

[Xafia]

Thanks for the warm welcome and rapid response,

The jucie im using is totally wicked's red label branded Gold Virgin - a tobacco flavour which is a very pale yellow colour and not sweet so noticing the colour change/leeching is very easy to spot.

The abreviations used in the e-cig world is still very new to me so sorry if im being ignorant.
Changing components within the e-cig im totally clueless, modding (I think its called) my eGo C+ isn't something id know how to go about doing I wouldn't even know where to look.

 

[Rickajho]

Hi

Priming these attys and getting them off to a good start is probably the most important aspect of an eGo C. If you mount the tank, let it sit for a minute, and your first draw isn't producing vapor STOP! - something is wrong.

The first problem can be getting a new tank punctured. If you aren't getting vapor production pull the tank and check to see if the atty spike made a good puncture hole in the end cap. Some times you need to remount the tank and even twist it a little to get a good puncture and get liquid flowing. Personally, I replace the stock plastic caps with available silicone caps. Much easier to puncture and I have less leaking problems with silicone caps.

You also need to make sure you have the tank fully inserted. They can be stiff going in the cone and need a good amount of force to make sure they are all the way in place.

You can also try priming the wick on a new atty with one drop of liquid before mounting it. Avoid messing with that tiny wick coming out of the atty spike. Just make sure it's in line with the spike and not folded over. Whatever you do, don't pull on it.

 

[Xafia]

Hi

Priming these attys and getting them off to a good start is probably the most important aspect of an eGo C. If you mount the tank, let it sit for a minute, and your first draw isn't producing vapor STOP! - something is wrong.

The first problem can be getting a new tank punctured. If you aren't getting vapor production pull the tank and check to see if the atty spike made a good puncture hole in the end cap. Some times you need to remount the tank and even twist it a little to get a good puncture and get liquid flowing. Personally, I replace the stock plastic caps with available silicone caps. Much easier to puncture and I have less leaking problems with silicone caps.

You also need to make sure you have the tank fully inserted. They can be stiff going in the cone and need a good amount of force to make sure they are all the way in place.

You can also try priming the wick on a new atty with one drop of liquid before mounting it. Avoid messing with that tiny wick coming out of the atty spike. Just make sure it's in line with the spike and not folded over. Whatever you do, don't pull on it.

Thanks for the reply but I think you are referencing the egoc from the video that Katya linked my eGo C+ is the newer version from that video and doesn't require anything to be punctured or pierced but ill try priming my atty with a drop of juice before I insert it thanks a lot.

 

[Katya]

Thanks for the reply but I think you are referencing the egoc from the video that Katya linked my eGo C+ is the newer version from that video and doesn't require anything to be punctured or pierced but ill try priming my atty with a drop of juice before I insert it thanks a lot.

Xafia, I understand the the tank has been redesigned, but your problem is not with the tank, but with the atomizer head, and that head doesn't seem to be any different than the eGo-C heads that I"m familiar with. It still needs to be cleaned--soaking in PGA or cheap vodka or denture cleaner is a good way to dissolve some of the gunk buildup.

Also, after you've filled the tank--take a couple of gentle primer puffs to (without activating the battery) to force the liquid to flow into the atomizing chamber.

 

[Xafia]

Guys thanks very much for all the info very helpful indeed I have just finished "cleaning" 3 atomisers (after watching that video thx katya)that I was about to throw out and replace and it seems they are still good after all just goes to show there more to vaping than I actually realised.

Many thanks from over the pond
Regards
Paul

 

[Katya]

Brilliant!

 

[Ryedan]

I have been stopped smoking now 6 weeks and going really well, the kit I bought had all the kit I needed to get "vaping" the spare atomisers within the starter kit lasted a good few weeks I have since bought more spare atomisers , however, im having some problems with them lasting as long as the ones that came in the starter kit rather than them lasting a few weeks they only seem to be lasting a few days before dark liquid leeches into the hoper tank which I suspect is coming via a burnt out atomiser the taste is not as pleasant and im experiencing a sore throat from this, am I missing something do I need to prime the atomiser? I never let the tank get too low. My local stockist says it depends how often I vape on it, yes I understand that but im vaping less on it than I was in the beginning and the original atomiser lasted like I said weeks rather than days any hints tips or advice is muchly appreciated.

I haven't seen anyone talking about one of these in a while. The eGo-C Tank system was my starter kit almost two years ago. Brings back some fond and some not so fond memories

I used this setup exclusively for about two months until I discovered clearos and switched to them over about the next month. I really enjoyed the 'C' system when it was working well which was with a new atty or after cleaning one. These attys give really clean flavor and OK vapor until they get gunked up and then they die off quickly. The draw gets tight, vapor production goes down and you start getting burnt hits. I think I used to clean the attys after about every 3 - 5 tank fulls through them with average juice. 'Gunky' juice can take that down to 2 refills, clean juice up to maybe 8 tanks. Go too long without cleaning them and they can become hard to get clean without ruining the atty.

The video Katya linked to shows exactly how I clean them. It's the best way to go and you get pretty quick at it after a while. The amount of wick you leave hanging out the bottom of the 'spike' plate will affect flooding and dry hits as will tamping the wick a bit from the top of the spike. Tamping more after assembly generally just pushes the wick down into the coil. A little trial and error will allow you to get a handle on this quickly. Try not to pull the wick out of the spike plate as it can be really hard or impossible to get it back into the hole.

These are also very sensitive to the speed of your drags or puffs. Slow is the way to go. Too fast and they will flood. Way too slow and they will go the opposite way. If you have a thicker juice (higher VG), or the wick is a bit slow and you're getting dry burnt hits you can also take a primer puff without power to keep the coil wet. Also, keep the far end (battery end) of the device pointing generally down. If you vape it too horizontal, juice will not flow into the atty specially when the tank level is low and you'll get dry hits.

I don't know why you're having poorer results with the replacement attys. I did buy some third party attys which were cheaper and found them to perform the same as far as getting gunked up went. The issue I had with these was the resistance lowered during use and they would stop working after a while because the battery would think they were shorted. Otherwise, I would say it's not the attys. You're doing something different, or your perception of vape quality has changed.

These attys need cleaning before use. Priming is good too. After a while I learned to flush them with a bit of Vodka using a blunt syringe and prime with juice before installation. The liquid they leave in the attys is foul stuff to inhale! If you don't do this do not inhale the first half dozen or so drags.

The bottom of the tank can be taken off and replaced. That means you can take it off and rinse the tank out any time you want. Make sure you push the bottom piece back on firmly or you'll end up loosing juice. If I remember correctly, there is a snap when it goes on right.

This system performs very well but IMO needs way to much maintenance compared to some of other alternatives on the market today. At $5 an atty it's also a lot more expensive to run. Having said that, nothing is fool proof and everything has its little tricks and quirks to learn. If the eGo C rated a 3 out of 10 score in overall user experience for me, the CE4 clearos scored 4 (a huge 33% improvement), the Vivi Nova about 5, cartomizers 7 and RBAs and RDAs about 9. I'm leaving the 10 out there for the next improvement to come

Good luck with it!

 

[Ryedan]

Guys thanks very much for all the info very helpful indeed I have just finished "cleaning" 3 atomisers (after watching that video thx katya)that I was about to throw out and replace and it seems they are still good after all just goes to show there more to vaping than I actually realised.

Many thanks from over the pond
Regards
Paul

Yup, Katya nailed that one! Glad it's working out for you

 

[Katya]

Having said that, nothing is fool proof and everything has its little tricks and quirks to learn. If the eGo C rated a 3 out of 10 score in overall user experience for me, the CE4 clearos scored 4 (a huge 33% improvement), the Vivi Nova about 5, cartomizers 7 and RBAs and RDAs about 9. I'm leaving the 10 out there for the next improvement to come

Good luck with it!

CE anything--3; eGo-C atties--4; ViVi Nova--5; cartomizers--6; tanked cartomizers--7; Kanger BCC and Aspire BDC clearomizers--8.

I'm leaving 9 and 10 for future improvements.

 

[Ryedan]

CE anything--3; eGo-C atties--4; ViVi Nova--5; cartomizers--6; tanked cartomizers--7; Kanger BCC and Aspire BDC clearomizers--8.

I'm leaving 9 and 10 for future improvements.

LOL, I can certainly see where you're coming from here Katya. I never did try any clearos after the VVN because I switched to carto tanks and then rebuildables. I'm sure there are better clearos than the VVN now. I wonder how you would rate a RBA. I'm assuming because you didn't include them you have not tried them. The Kayfun type is a flavor beast!

Hmm, maybe there's a number 9 or 10 in your near future

 

[Xafia]

I haven't seen anyone talking about one of these in a while. The eGo-C Tank system was my starter kit almost two years ago. Brings back some fond and some not so fond memories

I used this setup exclusively for about two months until I discovered clearos and switched to them over about the next month. I really enjoyed the 'C' system when it was working well which was with a new atty or after cleaning one. These attys give really clean flavor and OK vapor until they get gunked up and then they die off quickly. The draw gets tight, vapor production goes down and you start getting burnt hits. I think I used to clean the attys after about every 3 - 5 tank fulls through them with average juice. 'Gunky' juice can take that down to 2 refills, clean juice up to maybe 8 tanks. Go too long without cleaning them and they can become hard to get clean without ruining the atty.

The video Katya linked to shows exactly how I clean them. It's the best way to go and you get pretty quick at it after a while. The amount of wick you leave hanging out the bottom of the 'spike' plate will affect flooding and dry hits as will tamping the wick a bit from the top of the spike. Tamping more after assembly generally just pushes the wick down into the coil. A little trial and error will allow you to get a handle on this quickly. Try not to pull the wick out of the spike plate as it can be really hard or impossible to get it back into the hole.

These are also very sensitive to the speed of your drags or puffs. Slow is the way to go. Too fast and they will flood. Way too slow and they will go the opposite way. If you have a thicker juice (higher VG), or the wick is a bit slow and you're getting dry burnt hits you can also take a primer puff without power to keep the coil wet. Also, keep the far end (battery end) of the device pointing generally down. If you vape it too horizontal, juice will not flow into the atty specially when the tank level is low and you'll get dry hits.

I don't know why you're having poorer results with the replacement attys. I did buy some third party attys which were cheaper and found them to perform the same as far as getting gunked up went. The issue I had with these was the resistance lowered during use and they would stop working after a while because the battery would think they were shorted. Otherwise, I would say it's not the attys. You're doing something different, or your perception of vape quality has changed.

These attys need cleaning before use. Priming is good too. After a while I learned to flush them with a bit of Vodka using a blunt syringe and prime with juice before installation. The liquid they leave in the attys is foul stuff to inhale! If you don't do this do not inhale the first half dozen or so drags.

The bottom of the tank can be taken off and replaced. That means you can take it off and rinse the tank out any time you want. Make sure you push the bottom piece back on firmly or you'll end up loosing juice. If I remember correctly, there is a snap when it goes on right.

This system performs very well but IMO needs way to much maintenance compared to some of other alternatives on the market today. At $5 an atty it's also a lot more expensive to run. Having said that, nothing is fool proof and everything has its little tricks and quirks to learn. If the eGo C rated a 3 out of 10 score in overall user experience for me, the CE4 clearos scored 4 (a huge 33% improvement), the Vivi Nova about 5, cartomizers 7 and RBAs and RDAs about 9. I'm leaving the 10 out there for the next improvement to come

Good luck with it!

Thanks very much for that interesting read this is the actual model I've got Tornado eGo-C+ 1000mAh Kit not sure which e-cig it is categorised as but I think its a re-vamped model from the older standed eGo C at a guess there's just so many different models on the market im sure with more experimenting ill get there eventually... all this is better than smoking real tobacco, never thought I'd say that !

 

[Katya]

LOL, I can certainly see where you're coming from here Katya. I never did try any clearos after the VVN because I switched to carto tanks and then rebuildables. I'm sure there are better clearos than the VVN now. I wonder how you would rate a RBA. I'm assuming because you didn't include them you have not tried them.

Hmm, maybe there's a number 9 or 10 in your near future

I actually got to play with a genny and a Kayfun. We have a wonderful vape store nearby with great selection of hardware and software and a vape lounge. I didn't much care for the genny--I generally dislike top coils. But that Kayfun was heavenly. I just can't imagine myself winding my own coils... But if someone offered a Kayfun with premade, replaceable coils, like the Kangers, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

 

[Katya]

Thanks very much for that interesting read this is the actual model I've got Tornado eGo-C+ 1000mAh Kit not sure which e-cig it is categorised as but I think its a re-vamped model from the older standed eGo C at a guess there's just so many different models on the market im sure with more experimenting ill get there eventually...

What you have is a classic eGo battery--made by Joyetech for TW. It's 3.4v--regulated. Good and solid device.

The next step up would be a variable voltage eGo-class battery (Twist, Spinner) or an iTaste VV V3 or MVP 2.

You'll get there.

More info:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-carto-tank-what-guide-juice-attachments.html

and this

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-10-advancing-up-vaping-ladder-egos-mods.html

 

[Xafia]

What you have is a classic eGo battery--made by Joyetech for TW. It's 3.4v--regulated. Good and solid device.

The next step up would be a variable voltage eGo-class battery (Twist, Spinner) or an iTaste VV V3 or MVP 2.

You'll get there.

More info:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-carto-tank-what-guide-juice-attachments.html

and this

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-10-advancing-up-vaping-ladder-egos-mods.html

Mods....hmm something to look into now I know what I want from a e-cig

Many thanks more reading ....heheh

 

[Katya]

Reading, yes, hours of reading. And watching YouTube videos. I recommend anything by PBusardo--he's my go-to video mentor.

Welcome to the vortex.

 

[djsvapour]

Hmmm. How controversial can I be?

(Is it safe?.... "big brother" might be watching).

The Joyetech atomizers are simply way off the pace. They are expensive and I feel sure that the companies that market this outdated and expensive technology described as "revolutionary" are just rubbing their hands with glee.

I met a vaper last year who had been vaping about a year (same as me) who freely admitted to having bought over 100 Atomizers. He also told me about leaking and bad taste and just about every other vaping niggle that we all know and love.

He'd never even considered to look at another system. Meanwhile, I'd been using mini Vivi Novas (Vision brand) and Vision V3 (maybe even Kanger Evods by then (??) ) and was not suffering the same issues as him.

My running costs were far cheaper. I was buying replacement heads for £1.50 and juice for £2.40 vs. his at £5.99.

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There is a world out there. A world full of great products at great prices and yet people go to their local store and develop a sort of blindness to the possibilities. Joyetech make some excellent batteries (eGo) type. The rest is either old-tech or over-priced.