The FDA and my outrage.

Discussion in 'General Vaping Discussion' started by lord skeleton, Oct 23, 2011.

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  1. lord skeleton

    lord skeleton Full Member

    I heartily encourage everyone on here to watch Burzinsky its on netflix instant stream, and it confirms what I and many people believe that the FDA doesn't actually hold the health of the american public as its main priority.
     
  2. mooreted

    mooreted Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    No, the FDA has the health of pharmaceutical companies as it's main priority. We currently have the best government money can buy.
     
  3. Allan.GH

    Allan.GH Super Member ECF Veteran

    The same could be said of the AMA and scads of practicing physicians. Funny what having a stock portfolio full of big pharma will do to the objectivity of a supposed professional.
     
  4. glowgirl

    glowgirl Super Member ECF Veteran

    Our health care system is broken from the FDA down to the neighborhood clinic and extending into research and development. I say that having worked in healthcare for years and am currently studying in health care to extend my degree. Remember that just like credit cards, they don't want you so unhealthy you can't pay them nor so healthy you don't need them. Chronic illness and chronic debt keep them rich and us trapped.
     
  5. Allan.GH

    Allan.GH Super Member ECF Veteran

    Then you are well-aware of the diagnostic and treatment protocols that make no sense; unless the objective is to sell prescriptions, instead promoting a long-term healthy status in the patient.
     
  6. The Big Chief

    The Big Chief Moved On ECF Veteran

    I'd like to say Im shocked...but no.
     
  7. lord skeleton

    lord skeleton Full Member

    The part where it talks about how their way of handling any drug not created by a pharmacutical company is to create false propaganda really upset me.
     
  8. CountVapula

    CountVapula Senior Member ECF Veteran

    This infuriates me!!!
     
  9. wdave

    wdave Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Increase your nicotine concentration :)
     
  10. carpedebass

    carpedebass Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    You mean...a government run organization that DOESN'T have our best interest at heart??? :?: Surely you jest!! :p
     
  11. Uma

    Uma Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

  12. CountVapula

    CountVapula Senior Member ECF Veteran

    the full version is the one to watch
     
  13. lord skeleton

    lord skeleton Full Member

    I mean to have a compound that works incredibly well to fight most forms of cancer (which they know it does as proved by them stealing birlynski's patent) and stop it is absolutely monstrous and horrible.
     
  14. swedishfish

    swedishfish Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    I have news for you, that's the farthest thing from the truth.

    I'm not sticking up for the FDA in this case but the the FDA and pharmaceutical companies go at it all the time for delaying drugs, not approving drugs. I'm sure big pharm hates the FDA.
     
  15. lord skeleton

    lord skeleton Full Member

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  16. lord skeleton

    lord skeleton Full Member

    It seems to me they only ban sale of pharmaceutical drugs if there is overwhelmingly numerous negative cases against any particular drug. Otherwise I wouldn't see so many class action lawsuits advertised by lawyers on my television.
     
  17. glowgirl

    glowgirl Super Member ECF Veteran

    Yes and I am also aware of how pharmaceutical companies court doctors, effectively taking over the role or educating our doctors about new drugs. When your doctor offers you a pill consider that the company that makes it probably sent him on a trip to Hawaii to 'learn" about the drug and it's effects. Then go home and use your local library to access peer reviewed studies and research it yourself.
     
  18. glowgirl

    glowgirl Super Member ECF Veteran

    A lot of the drugs that you see on lawsuits ads on TV are still on the market, they just change one little thing and rename the drug. It costs over a million dollars to get FDA approval, they don't just stop making it once they have paid the FDA. They figure settling lawsuits is cheaper then making a better drug. There is way to much profit loss in removing a drug that is dangerous. Sometimes they keep it on the market by adding more warning labels........
     
  19. glowgirl

    glowgirl Super Member ECF Veteran

    Big pharm has a habit of hiring people out of the FDA. There are good people in the FDA but there are cronies and many people who can be bought.
     
  20. swedishfish

    swedishfish Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    I'm not talking about ecigs, just the FDA in general. There are no easy solutions.

    Even with the rules in place about 230,000 Americans die and 2.3 million spend time in a hospital as a result of adverse reactions to prescription and/or nonprescription drugs. The same side effects also generate annual healthcare costs in excess of $200 billion. Over 50% of all drugs entering the market have a severe adverse reaction that no one knows about other except the drug company. Imagine if there were no regulations.

    The FDA doesn't perform the tests- we know this with e-cigs. They rely on drug companies to perform their own tests. Fox in the hen house.

    If you want the FDA to perform their own tests, you'd have the expand the FDA. With people screaming about big government, doubtful that will happen. So, it is what it is.
     
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