Volts, ohms, wattage

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  1. OuchingMegaSpank

    OuchingMegaSpank Senior Member ECF Veteran

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    Given the formula, (v x v) / o = w, what difference does it make if I am using a high voltage mod with a high ohm atomizer or a lower volt-lower ohm setup if I end up achieving the same roundabout power output?
     
  2. Thunderball

    Thunderball Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I don't see any difference myself. The Olympics are in meters and Kilometers and I still enjoy it, they do the same thing and funny enough, make it to the finish line in the same time...
     
  3. occkor

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    In my experience, it really depends on how you want to vape. Sometimes I want to vape like I would smoke a cig or cigar I use a higher ohm atty with a higher voltage setting and usually a higher nic juice. I will usually rebuild a VIVI nova with a higher ohm rating for this. But if I want to create huge clouds of vape which usually requires taking lung hits, I will use my mechanical mod with a really low ohm (around .5 ohm) RDA (i use and iGo-L). This type of coil gets hotter faster. Also, I will vape really low nicotine juice for this as it get really harsh for me to vape this way with any juice with more than 6mg nic. I will even mix 6mg juice with 0mg and it really brings out the flavor of the juice. I am constantly experimenting with different setups.
     
  4. DavidOck

    DavidOck Vaping Master ECF Veteran

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    If the lower resistance coil is made with more turns of wire, it has more surface area and will heat up and go into action faster.

    Higher resistance and lower voltage should slightly increase battery life between charges.

    But the key thing is to use the combination that provides the vape you want.
     
  5. Furthermore

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    Because funny things seem to happen with low ohm builds, you get a warmer vape, very intense flavor (hopefully, a lot of this depends on the quality of materials and the build itself), and big clouds. Its true, your carto or clearo on a VV/VW device set to achieve X watts should theoretically taste and perform the same as an RBA set up to achieve the same, but many people build their RBA to go higher than most adjustable devices allow for, which pushes that envelope further.
     
  6. zoiDman

    zoiDman My -0^10 = Nothing at All ECF Veteran

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    If the Only Thing that made up a Hit or the Performance of a Atomizer Wire was Watts, then Yes, it wouldn't Matter what you used as long as the Watts was the Same.

    But like most things, the Physical World Isn't Usually that Simple. Or dependent on a Single Factor.

    Does having More Loops of an Atomizer Wire Change the Hit? Or the way a Wick Wicks? Or how Fast a Coil/Wick gets "Gunked" Up and needs to be Cleaned?

    How about Less Loops?
     
  7. OuchingMegaSpank

    OuchingMegaSpank Senior Member ECF Veteran

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    I appreciate this response. Thank you! Of course you are right. I am new to the Vapor (and enjoying it immensely) I think my interest is in a mechanical mod / rebuildable setup. I suppose I am not looking forward to having ohms be my only real way of adjusting. I have reasons other than performance for being interested in the more "primitive" way of vaping. I dont like shopping!
     
  8. zoiDman

    zoiDman My -0^10 = Nothing at All ECF Veteran

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    When I first Started using an e-Cigarette, there was Only 2 Basic ways to change the Hit you got.

    Changes the Ohms of you Atty. Or use 5 Volts.

    Now VV is the Norm. So choice of ohms Isn't as Meaningful as it once was for Most People. But for the Mech-Mod people, it still is.

    I think the Only way to approach Anything e-Cig is to read a Little about what Other People have to say and then sit down and do some Clinical Testing for Yourself.

    I don't use RBA's but once in a Blue Moon. But when I first got into them, I bought a Bunch of Different Wire Sizes and Material Types and a Bunch of Different Silica Wick Configurations.

    Then I made up Different Ohms, Number of Loops, Loops Spacing, Loop Tightness, Loop Looseness and Wick Size and Shape configurations. I made an Excel Spreadsheet to keep track of all the Combinations.

    It Didn't surprise me that some worked Better than others at the Same Watts for a Given e-Liquid. And that Different PG:VG Ratios and Flavors tasted Different for a given Coil/Wick setup.

    The Main thing I learned was that sitting around winding Small Wire around a Wick wasn't for me.

    But for Someone with Nimble Fingers, Good Eyes and some Time and Patience that a Coil Wick combination could be Found that Maximizes the Hit/Taste.

    If you decide to get into RBA's do yourself a Favor. Take what Anyone says with a Grain of Salt and find what works for you. And Keep Good Records of what Works and What Doesn't work for you.
     
  9. DavidOck

    DavidOck Vaping Master ECF Veteran

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    Maybe a carton of salt... :laugh:

    For ease of varying the experience, nothing simpler that a VV/VW device. No matter the coil / wick / top or bottom, easy to dial in what you like.
     
  10. zoiDman

    zoiDman My -0^10 = Nothing at All ECF Veteran

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    Yeah... You are Right.

    What kinda blows my mind is that Some People Can't Fathom that what works for them Might Not work for Someone Else. And Visa Versa. And or that All e-Liquids don't have the same Viscosity.

    When I read Posts about how This is Fantastic. Or how this Sucks. I kinda Mentally can hear the Salt Truck Backing Up.

    [​IMG]
     
  11. Zipp

    Zipp Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Amount of power converted to heat is the current squared times the resistance. Current is the important part, not the power in watts. This is why a simple battery can make our metal coils glow red hot, but high voltage power lines can carry hundreds of thousands of volts without burning up. Power lines carry relatively low current.
     
  12. Crash Moses

    Crash Moses Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    If you don't like shopping you do NOT want to get into mechanicals and RBAs...lol.

    Seriously, if it's ease of use you're looking for then a good VV or VW mod and some cartotanks are all you really need.

    I love my mechanicals and RBAs but they are NOT fire and forget and are intended for the advanced user and hobbyist (if you like gadgets or building models they may be right up your alley).

    Get a VAMO or a ZMAX (a Provari if you can afford it) and some good Pyrex tanks. Jump into RBAs and mechanicals a little later perhaps.
     
  13. PeteC2

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    If I mainly vaped one type of ejuice, then a mechanical mod and RBA would be my choice. Recoil to my prefered resistance, and good to go! However, where vv/vw shines is that not all ejuices vape equally well at a given voltage, and thinner/thicker ejuices can work well in one style tank better than another.

    Not for a second knocking mechanical mods, but just pointing out that there are reasons for each device.
     
  14. OuchingMegaSpank

    OuchingMegaSpank Senior Member ECF Veteran

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    Thanks guys. I think that is it, I must have both. I do like to do-it-myself when possible, but the fact (and I know) that different juices vape differently is the reason why I would want more control from my device. I have some that I like for all day, but at the end of the day I like to switch flavors all over the place. I appreciate the input!

    Now how about some good places to shop some nice mech mods? I am not interested in anything that I will look at in three months and say, "I wish I got a different one, or a better one." I'm not rich, but that's why I'd rather save for the good stuff rather than waste on the crap I won't want later.
     
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: provari, vamo
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