When will we see a new crop of RTAs bigger than 22mm?

[Mad Scientist]

Seems like present day attys are designed to match the "18650 in a tube" diameter, but the trend seems headed for box mods and then even bigger box mods. There will always be a place for the 22mm de facto "standard" but when do you think we'll see a new crop of attys that leave the 22mm limit behind?

Cramming ever growing builds into tiny spaces is getting a little old and it's hard to come up with really innovative alternative builds with no space for their execution. Also, the newer attys drink juice and less than 5 ml seems almost like a dripper for the number of times it needs another drink lol.

RDAs have seemed to leave 22mm behind. When will the big RTA tanks arrive? If two airholes on opposite sides of the deck are good, wouldn't three at thirds be better . . . or five lol. We need bigger decks and more juice capacity!

 

[mr.fabe]

Seems like present day attys are designed to match the "18650 in a tube" diameter, but the trend seems headed for box mods and then even bigger box mods. There will always be a place for the 22mm de facto "standard" but when do you think we'll see a new crop of attys that leave the 22mm limit behind?

Cramming ever growing builds into tiny spaces is getting a little old and it's hard to come up with really innovative alternative builds with no space for their execution. Also, the newer attys drink juice and less than 5 ml seems almost like a dripper for the number of times it needs another drink lol.

RDAs have seemed to leave 22mm behind. When will the big RTA tanks arrive? If two airholes on opposite sides of the deck are good, wouldn't three at thirds be better . . . or five lol. We need bigger decks and more juice capacity!

Try looking at this for starters... it's FT, however, you can get an idea of which drippers are 23mm. Research the authentic or buy the clone.

 

[d.g.]

There is little difference between 23 and 22 though. I am using a 23mm on a box mode with 22m space and it doesn't even hang on the side. I think Mad Scientist was talking about even larger diameters , 26-27 etc.

 

[mr.fabe]

There is little difference between 23 and 22 though. I am using a 23mm on a box mode with 22m space and it doesn't even hang on the side. I think Mad Scientist was talking about even larger diameters , 26-27 etc.

Sorry.. my bad. I know they have the larger kayfuns, kayfun styled like the buddha, evil eye, chariot, etc in 26650 configurations. I think as we look to more power beyond 3+ 18650 and move to 26650 / dual 26650, the larger RTA crowd will still be neglected. For now, I still think the larger size atties are being driven by the cloud chasers who typically use RDA for their massive cloud making machines and demand higher amps to drive the beasts.

 

[alicewonderland]

i dont think RDA's have left 22m behind. I mean there are bigger RDA's like 28.5mm and such, but i doubt there is a huge market for those. It would be so uncomfortable and inconvenient carrying a mod that thick around -> the thickness would be gigantic, and the lenght/depth or whatever would be even bigger. would be basically carrying something the side of a small brick.

Most people still use 22mm RDA's, unless for some reason you are in an area with people carrying gigantic RDA's around, I have yet to see or know a person who even owns an RDA bigger than 22mm, let alone 26650 or dual 26650 mods, which are already out there mind you - the market is just very small for them. There arent even that many 22mm+ RDA's out there (22.0-23.mm RDA's dont really count)

Also there is the kanger subtank which is a rebuildable tank bigger than 22mm (25 or 27mm i believe)- the original version not mini or nano.

 

[Mad Scientist]

i dont think RDA's have left 22m behind. I mean there are bigger RDA's like 28.5mm and such, but i doubt there is a huge market for those. It would be so uncomfortable and inconvenient carrying a mod that thick around -> the thickness would be gigantic, and the lenght/depth or whatever would be even bigger. would be basically carrying something the side of a small brick.

Most people still use 22mm RDA's, unless for some reason you are in an area with people carrying gigantic RDA's around, I have yet to see or know a person who even owns an RDA bigger than 22mm, let alone 26650 or dual 26650 mods, which are already out there mind you - the market is just very small for them. There arent even that many 22mm+ RDA's out there (22.0-23.mm RDA's dont really count)

Also there is the kanger subtank which is a rebuildable tank bigger than 22mm (25 or 27mm i believe)- the original version not mini or nano.

I see your point but remember we used to all carry 510 cartos, then ego or "CE" clearos, then the slightly larger "Protank" size clearos, now 22mm tube mod size attys, and next . . . ? I'm thinking like 30 mm and up with 4 airholes at 90 degrees to each other and 8 juice channels as a start. No, I wouldn't walk around on the street with it but sure would be a nice vape for after work vaping in the "man cave" lol.

The 25 mm Subtank is really just a bigger tank. The RBA section is single airhole (and intended for a single wick). I'm talking bigger with a reason lol.

 

[roxynoodle]

I don't really want them bigger. 22-23mm not only works for my mechs, but also all my current box mods.

 

[Azarias]

I don't really want them bigger. 22-23mm not only works for my mechs, but also all my current box mods.

Second that.

I guess it can be nice having a 30mm atty with a lot of ml at home but I want to carry my mods outside and not have 1 or 2 for my couch and another 1 or 2 for outdoors.
But in general >22/23mm is nothing for me. I don't even like 2x18650 boxes.

 

[TheotherSteveS]

on that note, what are available (or even favourite) 23mm RTAs around. I can think of the Taifun GT/2 and the 23mm tilemahos, flash-e vapor Vx's, Tengu maybe??, Estia but draw a blank after that although there must be more??

 

[zoiDman]

Seems like present day attys are designed to match the "18650 in a tube" diameter, but the trend seems headed for box mods and then even bigger box mods. There will always be a place for the 22mm de facto "standard" but when do you think we'll see a new crop of attys that leave the 22mm limit behind?

Cramming ever growing builds into tiny spaces is getting a little old and it's hard to come up with really innovative alternative builds with no space for their execution. Also, the newer attys drink juice and less than 5 ml seems almost like a dripper for the number of times it needs another drink lol.

RDAs have seemed to leave 22mm behind. When will the big RTA tanks arrive? If two airholes on opposite sides of the deck are good, wouldn't three at thirds be better . . . or five lol. We need bigger decks and more juice capacity!

For me, I'm fine with Most RTA's. They hold enough e-Liquid that I can do Just about Anything I want. I would Rather refill once per Day that to have an RTA that Weighs a Ton and is Longer than my Mod.

Same with a Mod. I would Rather Change a Battery than to have to Hoist a Heavy Mod all Day.

 

[WillyZee]

bigger you ask? ... nano thank you

 

[GreekDude1821]

Battery technology is the limiting factor IMO. Manufacturers design for 22mm because that's where the market is. If 26xxx batteries become comparable to 18xxx and more mods appear then there will be a demand for larger RTAs.

But if you need an 8 ml tank for a box mod
Holy Land Mods

You will have to wait for the next production run though

 

[Mad Scientist]

For me, I'm fine with Most RTA's. They hold enough e-Liquid that I can do Just about Anything I want. I would Rather refill once per Day that to have an RTA that Weighs a Ton and is Longer than my Mod.

Same with a Mod. I would Rather Change a Battery than to have to Hoist a Heavy Mod all Day.

Yeah, I guess it's funny in a way. When I go out I want tiny, tiny; I want the smallest single battery regulated mod and a tank that doesn't look like a rocket ship ready to launch. When one day battery technology allows for a 15 watt cigalike, I would buy at least two in a heartbeat and stick carto sized drippers on them. But once home relaxing, or even in the car, I don't care what it looks like or weighs. I want MORE! lol

 

[Mad Scientist]

Battery technology is the limiting factor IMO. Manufacturers design for 22mm because that's where the market is. If 26xxx batteries become comparable to 18xxx and more mods appear then there will be a demand for larger RTAs.

But if you need an 8 ml tank for a box mod
Holy Land Mods

You will have to wait for the next production run though

I don't think it's really the batteries anymore as a limiting factor as more people are willing to adopt the use of box mods with LiPo packs starting to get used in those boxes.

I like the tank you linked to. Box mod form factor. The only thing is they don't seem to have taken advantage of the large size by making a bigger and more "interesting" build deck. I hope it's coming. Based on the replies to this thread, obviously there is very little demand lol.

 

[zoiDman]

Yeah, I guess it's funny in a way. When I go out I want tiny, tiny; I want the smallest single battery regulated mod and a tank that doesn't look like a rocket ship ready to launch. When one day battery technology allows for a 15 watt cigalike, I would buy at least two in a heartbeat and stick carto sized drippers on them. But once home relaxing, or even in the car, I don't care what it looks like or weighs. I want MORE! lol

I'm with you Mad.

Last Night I bought one of these...

... to put on One of These....

... for when I'm Out n' About.

Using a Dual 18650 Mod topped with a 5ml Tank when I go to the Post Office to drop something off seems like Overkill. And it doesn't fit in my Pocket very well.

LOL

 

[DaveSignal]

Here are a few dual-18650 box mods with 22mm atomizers. How much larger diameter atomizer do you think would fit there? Just beacause more people are using boxes with more than one battery doesn't mean that some kind of massive 26650 atty is just going to sit on there perfectly.

 

[Mad Scientist]

I'm with you Mad.

Last Night I bought one of these...

... to put on One of These....

... for when I'm Out n' About.

Using a Dual 18650 Mod topped with a 5ml Tank when I go to the Post Office to drop something off seems like Overkill. And it doesn't fit in my Pocket very well.

LOL

I have an orchid v2 that looks to be about the same size as the mini-goblin. How do you like the mini-goblin so far? I like the way it looks.

 

[Mad Scientist]

Here are a few dual-18650 box mods with 22mm atomizers. How much larger diameter atomizer do you think would fit there? Just beacause more people are using boxes with more than one battery doesn't mean that some kind of massive 26650 atty is just going to sit on there perfectly.

I guess the question is, if it requires a larger atty to provide much better performance than what's available now, would you care if it extended over the side of the box?

 

[zoiDman]

I have an orchid v2 that looks to be about the same size as the mini-goblin. How do you like the mini-goblin so far? I like the way it looks.

I haven't got my Goblin Mini yet.

It is supposed to Ship on Tuesday from inside the USA. So I should have it by Next Saturday or so.

I'm not Crazy about the Bottom Fill technique. Because I have a Regular Goblin. And it is Kinda a PITA to not be Able to Fill or Remove the Deck like you can on a Kanger Subtank.

But the Goblin Mini Size looks Cool.

 

[DaveSignal]

I guess the question is, if it requires a larger atty to provide much better performance than what's available now, would you care if it extended over the side of the box?

I don't think the performance would be better. I would be using it with the same low-ohm builds that I use in my 22mm atomizers. Just the build deck would be bigger and the chamber would be larger... if anything, the flavor would be reduced from that of the same build in the smaller atomizer.

ETA: if anything, what is becoming more popular are the 'short' RDAs with slammed top caps or super low profile stuff like the derringer or bonsai.