why do people build super low ohm on a vv or vw device?

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paulparnham

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I ask this question because I've read so many threads on super low builds on vw devices and I don't get why people do it.
obviously I can understand it on a mech but on vw why not build a higher ohm coil and just turn up the wattage to get what you need.
isn't that the point of vw mods?
 

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Methinks the point is rather safety features and consistency in the vape.

Getting more out of a coil of higher resistance is just a side benefit that allows for more flexibility.

As to why people do what they do, I cannot say. Though I'd assume some are creatures of habit, others don't know certain details and others surely have their own reasoning or lack of to differing degrees.

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Cloud chasing , numbers chasing, I can go higher lower faster better than you...
Well, impress me then : wrap 10 tons of organic cotton around the Gateway Arch ( in St. Louis ) - it's basically a half-turn coil with 0.00000015478 ohms. Negotiate with a couple of power plants nearby to get a few gigawatts pumped onto it. Local fire department will gladly spray-drip a few hudred gallons of your favourite liquid just for the PR of it. Let the world watch in awe while the whole Mississippi delta takes a lung hit of a life time. Then I'll tip my hat. Anything less than that - just a pathetic attempt at true coolness ;)

Wick, wire, liquid .. Ohms, watts, volts alone - thats just numbers. Tweaking dozens of parameters to arrive at the balance thats just perfect four you and you alone. Be it flash-fried juice at 0.01 ohms with 100 watts or barely gatting a boil on 5 watts at three ohms with low temp liquid...

Only person I need and want to impress is myself. I vape for me, not for you. You vape for you, not for me. It's that simple.
 

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    It's only natural that people do what has been working for them. When the on-slot of high wattage devices hit the market, many had been sub ohming on mechanicals. So it was only natural that they wanted to use those same builds with the added security of the high wattage mods.

    So I would ask, why wouldn't they want to use the low ohm builds that they liked?

    Not a bit different than I still use the high ohm builds that that I liked before sub ohm vaping existed.
     

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    When using thicker gauge wire, my coils take a long time to get to temp. Increasing the wattage gets them to temp much faster. A 2mm ID coil,using 24ga kanthal, with a resistance of 0.3 ohms, is about 8 wraps per coil. That's a lot of metal, my friend.

    This is also when I like to plug the steam engine site's heat flux and heat capacity features.
     

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    In my experience, the coils that are 1.0 or around there with the wattage turned up tend to burn out faster and once even destroyed the coil. If the coil you build cant handle the wattage your putting out, its kind of moot.

    Ahhhh! Now this I get! Thicker wire certainly does handle higher wattage better, so being able to build a fat ... high resistance coil out of 28 gauge is not necessarily the best way to harness high wattage.
     
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    Most regulated device that advertise 100/150 watts can only achieve this within a certain resistance range. I think the sig 150, for example, had to have a build at .6 or less to use 150 watts. I'm sure there are other reasons as well.
    We have to account for voltage and current limits at some point. :thumbs:

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    Ahhhh! Now this I get! Thicker wire certainly does handle higher wattage better, so being able to build a fat ... high resistance coil out of 28 gauge is not necessarily the best way to harness high wattage.

    This is why it has really started to become a fun hobby. By no means am I a professional but tinkering with all of the variables to "fine tune" my device and attys is crazy fun!!

    As a locksmith that is known for being able to do things that other locksmiths walk away from (securing doors and openings that architects believe in their minds are "pretty" but lack the general idea of security) this is something that gets the creative juices flowing!!!
     

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    I don't use regulated devices, but I do know that they all have a specific resistance range (usually somewhere between .1 and .4) that is required to use the full range of power offered by the mod. Builds outside of that range will be past the limits built in to the mod... even though on some mods you might not be able to see the difference on the led screen, the true output will be limited to some lower wattage.
     
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    I don't use regulated devices, but I do know that they all have a specific resistance range (usually somewhere between .1 and .4) that is required to use the full range of power offered by the mod. Builds outside of that range will be past the limits built in to the mod... even though on some mods you might not be able to see the difference on the led screen, the true output will be limited to some lower wattage.

    Not really Dave.
    That's totally up to the builder of the mod. (how much are you willing to pay)
    I have plenty of "regulated devices" that won't even fire anything below one ohm.
     
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    I do think that many newer vapers have been led to believe that very low resistance combined with very high power is the only way to get a good vape, so they just follow along. If you look at the powerful starter setups often recommended here and at vape shops, one would think they need that combination and anything "less" is not worthwhile.

    Manufacturers and resellers, driven to sell more equipment, have cut down or discontinued many of the higher resistance options. The atmosphere in vaping has become more power, less resistance in an endless pursuit. Very profitable indeed for resellers of equipment and liquid.
     
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