Posting here to keep up with this thread
I'm getting a quote from here: Unalloyed Commercially Pure (CP) Titanium - Fort Wayne Metals for some grade 1 non lubricated titanium 7x7 in both 1.2mm and 1.5mm diameters. Minimum order is $400 which is fairly rough as an experiment. However, this is the only place I have found that will do a custom order for titanium wire rope.
So as I move forward here, it seems like the best SS Mesh wick is one made with 500 mesh wound VERY tight, as solid as possible.
It lead me to thinking, has anyone tried SS wire rope before? Stranded wire rope should work kind of like silica rope, but made of SS. With a high enough strand count, there should be decent capillary action. It also has the advantage of continuous "channels" running axially along the wick. With mesh, juice has to jump from "cell" to cell in the mesh, jumping over solid wire or between layers of mesh. With wire rope, it's free to continuously wick upwards. Also - no more rolling, just cut your piece of wick, oxidize, and insert.
I found this, which seems like a good fit for my AGA-T+:McMaster-Carr item 8908T64. It's 3/32", so would fit well into the stock wick hole. Boring the wick hole out to 1/8" would allow 8908T48 to fit, giving me 133 strands instead of the 49 strands in the 3/32" material, (more, smaller strands should equal better wicking).
Before I blow $10 to $15 on a flight of fancy....has this been done? I can find only a single reference to it on ECF, and no follow up, just someone suggesting it...
In my book, titanium is a good idea and I have looked into it. While slightly more conductive than ss, it can be hard anodized, which should render it nonconductive, like anodized aluminum. One drawback is that it has quite a high contact angle compared to ss and glass, which means that it is relatively hydrophobic compared to these materials, and might not wick well.I'm getting a quote from here: Unalloyed Commercially Pure (CP) Titanium - Fort Wayne Metals for some grade 1 non lubricated titanium 7x7 in both 1.2mm and 1.5mm diameters. Minimum order is $400 which is fairly rough as an experiment. However, this is the only place I have found that will do a custom order for titanium wire rope.
Maybe it won't wick well because it doesn't have any horizontal wires slowing down the decent of the juice. Like friction kinda...?
Foggybottom, I'd been looking for some info on contact angles and glycerin with respect to other materials...good to know titanium won't work as well.
quenched the business end x3 then juice flamed it x3.
4/5 wraps of 33 gauge Kanthal, measured at 2.7 ohm
Aga-T+ filled with 2 ml 50/50 pg/vg.
Vaped at 7.7 watts.
Flavor: comparable to my usual # 400 mesh.
Vapor: volume just as good as all mesh, but less wet, and by that I mean finer. I like it more.
Sound: less throaty than an all mesh wick, more like a silica wick.
I have my theory as to why this thing works so well: the fluid climbs up in the helical V groove between strands which is not vertical, but maybe a 60-70 degrees. The height reached by a meniscus during capillary action is, among other things, directly proprotional to the cosine of the angle it climbs, henced the more off the vertical it is, the higher it can climb, I guess.
To bad it doesn't completely do away with the hassle of needing to isolate the resistance wire and oxidizing mesh,
Let the record show that I mentioned this as an idea on here months ago and got shot down by others.
So, uhm, let me know how it turns out
Yep, here's the patent for it.Found a study showing 22 degree hydrophilic UV treated anodized titanium here: Figure 1: A: Mean contact angles (± SD) of H2O on the discs, B: Image of H2O droplet... - Open-i
And the "anodized" 22 gauge aluminum wire I bought from a jewelery supply store is completely conductive. Was I mistaken to assume anodized aluminum is non-conductive, or did they false advertise?
Sigh, the 1x19 SS rope from mcmaster doesn't wick worth a damn. Really easy to wrap coils around though...
Interesting, molybdenum = increased wettability?Side note: all this talk of contact angles got me thinking, and looking it up it appears 316 SS has a much lower contact angle than 304SS. I wonder if that's why my 304SS 7x19 and 1x19 rope won't wick worth a damn, but my 7x7 316SS rope wick wicks wonderfully?
I got some 1x7 316SS rope wick from Amazon to test next...should arrive Monday. Hoping it has decent wicking like the 7x7 316SS, without the thread running up the middle...