I know there's some still out there - and some work fine as long as you know to keep them wet, but bottom coils stopped much of the dry hits and burn that many were experiencing. Kanger T2's were also good before the T3's came on board :- )
WSJ Opinion Journal : Save E-Cigarettes
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I know there's some still out there - and some work fine as long as you know to keep them wet, but bottom coils stopped much of the dry hits and burn that many were experiencing. Kanger T2's were also good before the T3's came on board :- )
What are regulations about cooking food at home? I am not trying to be a smart .... I know there are things like UL covering your toaster but we have much simpler devices. You can't regulate away someone cooking french fries and walking away from the stove for hours and an oil fire starts.
Someone mentioned safety training, we don't have safety training for what air born flour can do and hot oil.
Someone mentioned safety training, we don't have safety training for what air born flour can do and hot oil.
Thanks for the info. I have never had that issue with iclear 16 dual coils.
To prevent flooding the atomizer and prevent spitting and gurgling just
fill to two notches below the fill line. "That is all the people need to know."
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Mike
Which is it (Sally), these are FAR safer, or there are contaminants in the eLiquid that need to be removed?
I like that we can have it both ways and that some regulations are necessary, with ANTZ on the playing field, to help us make sure those necessary ones go through, and hey if it bankrupts vendors along the way, oh well.
I like that we can have it both ways and that some regulations are necessary, with ANTZ on the playing field, to help us make sure those necessary ones go through, and hey if it bankrupts vendors along the way, oh well.
She says that PG is used in asthma inhalers. I thinks that she's mistaken. People keep saying it, and I thought it was true, until someone on ECF corrected me and I looked it up.
The machines they use to test these products lack the necessary expertise.
Not yet. It could very well become mandatory. Just think of the Cheeeeldrin.
You have to dig deeper - to "inactive ingredients". There are two main inhaler types from what I can gather:
Symbicort and Advair.
The inactive ingredient of Advair is lactose monohydrate. Whereas with Symbicort, it is propylene glycol: (from the FDA site :- ) ...:
What are the ingredients in SYMBICORT?
Active ingredient: micronized budesonide and
micronized formoterol fumarate dihydrate
Inactive ingredients: hydrofluroalkane (HFA 227),
povidone K25 USP, and polyethylene glycol 1000 NF
Reference ID:
http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Drugs/DrugSafety/ucm089139.pdf
FWIW, ethanol is also used as a carrier in inhalers. From my Pro-Air ingredients list:
What are the ingredients in PROAIR HFA?
Active ingredient: albuterol sulfate
Inactive ingredients: propellant HFA-134a and ethanol.
I did some searches (try nebulizers) and found this from 2002. Although I didn't/couldn't get to the full study, the summary implies PG was in use/an option at the time: Formulations and nebulizer performance. - PubMed - NCBI
"To deliver a drug by nebulization, the drug must first be dispersed in a liquid (usually aqueous) medium. After application of a dispersing force (either a jet of gas or ultrasonic waves), the drug particles are contained within the aerosol droplets, which are then inhaled. Some drugs readily dissolve in water, whereas others need a cosolvent such as ethanol or propylene glycol."
I also found this from 2006. People mention it being used in hospitals for it's antibacterial properties. This is an EPA Registration for Eligibility Decision:http://www.epa.gov/oppsrrd1/reregistration/REDs/propylene_glycol_red.pdf
"Summary of Use Sites:
Indoor Non-Food:
Propylene glycol is used on the following use sites: air treatment (eating establishments, hospital, commercial, institutional, household, bathroom,transportational facilities); medical premises and equipment, commercial, institutional and industrial premises and equipment"
What are the ingredients in PROAIR HFA?
Active ingredient: albuterol sulfate
Inactive ingredients: propellant HFA-134a and ethanol.
I did some searches (try nebulizers) and found this from 2002. Although I didn't/couldn't get to the full study, the summary implies PG was in use/an option at the time: Formulations and nebulizer performance. - PubMed - NCBI
"To deliver a drug by nebulization, the drug must first be dispersed in a liquid (usually aqueous) medium. After application of a dispersing force (either a jet of gas or ultrasonic waves), the drug particles are contained within the aerosol droplets, which are then inhaled. Some drugs readily dissolve in water, whereas others need a cosolvent such as ethanol or propylene glycol."
I also found this from 2006. People mention it being used in hospitals for it's antibacterial properties. This is an EPA Registration for Eligibility Decision:http://www.epa.gov/oppsrrd1/reregistration/REDs/propylene_glycol_red.pdf
"Summary of Use Sites:
Indoor Non-Food:
Propylene glycol is used on the following use sites: air treatment (eating establishments, hospital, commercial, institutional, household, bathroom,transportational facilities); medical premises and equipment, commercial, institutional and industrial premises and equipment"
the conditions, commonly called dry-puff phenomenon are easily detected by the vapers. In fact, overheating results in an unpleasant taste that none can withstand. As a result, no vaper is ever using the e-cigarette at such conditions and, thus, will never be exposed to such levels of formaldehyde.
Of course some believe this in no way represents how a e-cigarette and the juice work.
Absolutely nothing similar.Why the stuff dispersed in the aerosol especially the flavorings
like diacetyl disassociate themselves completely from the aerosol in large enough quantities
to damage our lungs. Maybe,perhaps,it could happen. We'll know in twenty years.
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Mike
Finally got to watch the WSJ video. I was beginning to suspect that the ANTZ had won another one and forced WSJ to take it down. The interview was good but not great since she did play the 'contaminant' and 'we don't know' ANTZ's cards. At least she didn't play the 'save the children' card, that would have trumped all of the positives she had presented. The really sad part is she didn't bring out any of the 'smoking guns' used by our beloved BT, BP, BG, et al interests being served by this Prohibition.
Any eCig Op-Ed is liable to be SPun by ANTZ.
on Balance I see this in the "win" column.
Im simply worried about ample exposure.
Thanks for Sharing Mazinny
Cheers
on Balance I see this in the "win" column.
Im simply worried about ample exposure.
Thanks for Sharing Mazinny
Cheers
This is my thought, generally, on dry puff phenomenon, recently published in Addiction journal: ‘Dry puff’ and electronic cigarettes - Kershaw - 2015 - Addiction - Wiley Online Library
This concern, and every other "concern" boils down to one thing... tamper-proof cartridges.
It's the one thing that allows them to control for every "concern" they can think up.
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