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  1. SeniorBoy

    FDA Has there been any updates yet?

    I can certainly understand and respect your perspective on this issue however a few points for your consideration: Used in numerous places in the final rule is The FDA’s “intended or reasonably expected” catch all. So it's not only intended use The FDA has used and will continue to use...
  2. SeniorBoy

    FDA What about non-nicotine containing juices/products?

    A little dovetail/regulatory example of how the FDA operates from the post by @DC2 where he talks about: "1) FDA approved drugs 2) Recreational "tobacco" products" Regulated as a DRUG example: The FDA has already done that! No questions or ambiguity please. For your reading pleasure: FDA Bans...
  3. SeniorBoy

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    FYI: Published today in the Federal Register: Submission of Food and Drug Administration Import Data in the Automated Commercial Environment "The Food and Drug Administration (FDA, the Agency, or we) is proposing to establish requirements for the electronic filing of entries of FDA-regulated...
  4. SeniorBoy

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    Seriously. /lol Your talking apples and oranges with the 5P reference. It's also OFF TOPIC in THIS THREAD. We have a couple of other threads specific to 5P where your post is appropriate. Billon dollar industries that don't effectively self regulate themselves ALWAYS get regulated by the...
  5. SeniorBoy

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    Good morning Girls and Boys :) Generally speaking /cough many but not all of us believe that "NIC" extracted from tobacco leaf will be regulated by the FDA under the Final Rule and or subsequent "enforcement discretion" of same. I like to call this the "Choke Point" /lol An old topic landed in...
  6. SeniorBoy

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    Good morning Girls and Boys :) On the PMTA and SE issues. I pulled out a few of Bill Gs posts on ECF for your reading pleasure. All of his posts have source links and please note the dates of his posts. FDA also issued 8 Not Substantially Equivalent (NSE) orders, 1 Refuse-to-Accept letter for...
  7. SeniorBoy

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    About two years! Cool and dark place with a stable temp like your cabinet or a drwaer. NOT in the refrig or freezer. Confirmed with three vendors. Including FA! Back on topic: "ENDS can apply for SE once a product has been approved via PMTA." The problem with this argument to name just the...
  8. SeniorBoy

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    No need for the flame proof armor Mike. :) I asked for input/suggestions and quite a few have been posted which is great. What would YOU and anyone else suggest for text on a bumper sticker?
  9. SeniorBoy

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    BTW...My bumper sticker makes a "health claim" which is generally regarded as a no no. :) So what! I've got reams of evidence just like many of you to support my own non commercial thoughts. This is also political season /cough so demonizing is SOP. If they want to pick on a senior citizen with...
  10. SeniorBoy

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    LOL! Of course you can use my text :) Actually the following page near the top and below the pict says "Your idea deserves more than one bumper. Bump up your order - buy 50 or more and save 50%!" See: Bumper Stickers - Custom Car Bumper Stickers & FREE Shipping So 100 bumper stickers will...
  11. SeniorBoy

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    I Love the idea of a bumper sticker. :) On the site you ordered from: Yard Signs, Signs, Custom Signs Online | BuildASign Are they reliable? Turn around time? Quality? I'm thinking of ordering a bunch of them to give away and spread the word. My first draft and it's a little bit like Vegas and...
  12. SeniorBoy

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    Actually as I read the fine print the same thought flashed through my mind for a very small number of folks. :) The fine print from the Registry: Final site selections will be based on the availability of CTP funds and resources for the relevant fiscal year, as well as the following factors, as...
  13. SeniorBoy

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    FYI: Published today in the Federal Register: Tobacco Product Manufacturing Facility Visits The Food and Drug Administration (FDA), Center for Tobacco Products (CTP) is announcing an invitation for participation in its Tobacco Product Manufacturing Facility Visits. This program is intended to...
  14. SeniorBoy

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    Respectfully, this is NOT the time to point fingers at a given "organization" and or "leader" in a public forum where these kinds of thoughts may diminish the effectiveness of our collective fight. Think of an increase in apathy. If you have thoughts then the best way is to send an email/form to...
  15. SeniorBoy

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    THANK YOU! Gutsy move on your part to post your candid thoughts in this thread. Color me "disappointed" with some of the other comments about your business. Period!
  16. SeniorBoy

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    Here comes the FDA! Report your defective e-cig to the FDA! Updated on 6/8/16 "Problems with E-Cigarettes, Vape Products, Hookah, Cigarettes or Tobacco? Tell FDA Are you using a tobacco product—from e-cigs to cigars and cigarettes, hookah to smokeless—that you believe is defective or is...
  17. SeniorBoy

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    I'm sure @Oliver and his team are well acquainted with Google search. For the benefit of others and apologies in advance for my diversion, "ranking" in the search results by Google is VERY secret. They use a algorithm which is tweaked dozens of times in a year and thousands of SEO geeks have...
  18. SeniorBoy

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    Good morning Girls and Boys :) If the following has already been discussed please humor me. From where I sit and that's IMHO, I see a lot of discussion about the two year period starting on 8-8-16 where IDENTICAL vaping stuff can still be sold and of course compliance with the other terms of...
  19. SeniorBoy

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    LOL. Thank you for your visit. :) I find it cathartic and fun!
  20. SeniorBoy

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    On the 5P issue. Not sure if this has been posted so please humor me. :) One of the owners named Rob started this thread: Five Pawns now on ECF EDIT: I'm finding it difficult to assume from the letter that 5P will go the PMTA route. Of course that's just my view and I could be wrong. A...
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