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  1. Bill's Magic Vapor

    The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

    I make large quantities of juice, rarely less than 100 ml per flavoring. Other than .1% citric acid, I don't do anything different on large batches, although sometimes I will mix up the PG elements only (30% of mix) and let it sit until I mix the juice. This is a form of steeping, but in the end...
  2. Bill's Magic Vapor

    The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

    The 100DT mixing I do has it all. PG and PG flavoring to 30%, 70% VG including 6 mg/ml (6% of mix) nicotine. Makes about 2.5 - 3 mls. I'll throw it in a tank and vape it until I understand the flavoring. After mixing for a while, you develop certain taste and smell sensitivities to the juice...
  3. Bill's Magic Vapor

    The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

    As Andria mentioned, a fruit flavoring is not a complete mix flavoring. You do have to add the supporting flavors to get a complete mix. This is one of the primary differences between TFA and other brands. TFA allows us to construct complex mixes by giving us "incomplete" flavorings. They are...
  4. Bill's Magic Vapor

    The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

    So, sorry about the broken pipe and the Tourette's. :ohmy: :p I don't have a specific recipe for Cream Brulee, but I do have this one from another juice maker. Cream Brulee Vanilla Custard - 8% (or FW Vanilla Custard (3%) + Cap VC V2 (5%)) Caramel - 3 - 4% Sweetener - 3 - 4% Brown Sugar - 2%...
  5. Bill's Magic Vapor

    The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

    I prefer the TFA Vanilla Custard myself. Less intense, perhaps, but more useful. Cream Brulee? Where's the brown sugar? Sweetener? VC V2 or FW VC will work fine, or both together, for that matter. A lot of people really swear by both of those. :toast:
  6. Bill's Magic Vapor

    The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

    Really very few non-TFA flavorings, and mostly just in the gaps on flavors TFA doesn't have, and generally specific to a particular flavoring preference, like Cookies and Cream (a favorite), or Cream Cheese Icing (super strong, but you like what you like, right?). Truth be told, I can't remember...
  7. Bill's Magic Vapor

    The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

    The missing ingredient in TFA flavor's list. :D :toast:
  8. Bill's Magic Vapor

    The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

    If you want to smooth these out and enhance the watermelon, for example, always remember to add the vanillas, creams and sweetener/cotton candy. At 6% or less each (lower on sweetener), they won't dominate, but will do wonders for the fruit. They are the magic that is often found in good juice...
  9. Bill's Magic Vapor

    The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

    I'm just saying that the flavoring descriptions in our recipes usually match only one TFA flavoring available, and that our mixes use high flavoring percentages so they don't require long steep times, but can be mixed and vaped immediately. How ya been B? Long time no talk to. You good? :toast...
  10. Bill's Magic Vapor

    The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

    Yes, our flavorings are highly concentrated. Most of the time there's only one item you can order that matches the recipe description, so not too worry, my friend. It's all good. High Flavor Mixes (HFM) is one of several ways to mix juice, and one that I advocate and prefer, but there's low and...
  11. Bill's Magic Vapor

    The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

    I can't get EM to taste like Cotton Candy. I've tried repeatedly. I only buy the cotton candy now. Maybe someone else has the magic formula. :2c:
  12. Bill's Magic Vapor

    The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

    That requires some thought, my friend. As a rule, I try to keep those recipes to a minimum on this thread. I do use a few FW flavors. Oreo cookies is to die for, OMG! Peanut Butter Cup is great! A few more, but generally for very specific targeted flavorings, for which there is not a TFA...
  13. Bill's Magic Vapor

    The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

    Man I feel for ya Brother! Your great sense of humor must get you through a lot! You have me in stitches over here! It's freezing here too. We dipped below 50 yesterday, and I nearly froze. Wow. Hang in there! All the best! :toast:
  14. Bill's Magic Vapor

    The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

    An RBA or RTA (what I use) works pretty well. When mixing, I don't change out the wick in most cases, though using 100DT or about 3mls, I have a small tank to get through and after about 20 vapes, really didn't matter what was on the wick to start with. Otherwise, I would have to trade out the...
  15. Bill's Magic Vapor

    The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

    :evil: I also have a fondness for candy bars. Here's a few more I posted a while back: As you can see, the differences between the candy bars is not that significant. Of the ones I've made, at least, a little peanut butter, or caramel, or coconut or English Toffee can change the flavoring...
  16. Bill's Magic Vapor

    The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

    ( Used at 1% of the mix using a 10% solution is a strength to mix of .1%. It is confusing. I may be confused, too, but that is how I use it as well. Works out to be about 1 drop for every 30 mls or so (at full strength), or 1 drop of a 3 ml solution (10% solution). It's not much, and I've...
  17. Bill's Magic Vapor

    The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

    I seriously doubt that anyone could taste citric acid at .1%. It occurs naturally in all manner of foods, at higher concentrations than this, that certainly don't taste sour. As we see day in and day out on this thread, new DIY'ers almost never add enough sweetener, creams and vanillas to...
  18. Bill's Magic Vapor

    The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

    No peanut butter....yet. I would probably start to fiddle around somewhere along these lines. Hopefully, someone will have a finished recipe for you: Peanut Butter Peanut Butter - 8% Sweetener - 4% Graham Cracker - 3% French Vanilla Cream - 3% Butter - 2% I may also throw something like honey...
  19. Bill's Magic Vapor

    The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

    I use these creams and vanillas in many if not most mixes. As secondary and supporting flavors I keep the percentages at 6% or less....each. As primaries, they would be higher, and would start to dominate the mix. Range? Probably 1% - 6% in most mixes. For a vanilla milkshake, you may go as high...
  20. Bill's Magic Vapor

    The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

    Citric acid is found in all citrus fruits, and at the levels we are talking about here, i.e., 1/10 of 1%, it is harmless, unless you are bacteria. Anyone that mixes water into their flavorings should always add citric acid. It will prevent contamination rather effectively. More importantly, it...
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