F-F-F-F-F-F-F- (hang on, I'm not going to use that word on ECF) F-F-F-FOUR degrees??? LOL! I live in Southern California. If it gets below 60, we wear down coats, scarves, and gloves.
haha! Well, it's not quite t-shirt weather up here but all I go out in is a medium jacket, maybe some gloves if I have to brush the snow off the car. 30 Below is when it sucks, you know, icicles hanging from your eyelashes and such..not my idea of fun.. But you can go ahead and send some sun up here. It's right before solstice and we're getting maybe 3-4 hours of daylight a day right now, if that.

let alone to think about going outside to smoke I think I would become like a bear and hibernate all winter long


My friend (most recent convert) is officially vaping now! He threw out his pipe and cleaned out each ashtray until it was sparkling, and he kept his cigarettes so he can give them out later.
Time for coffee so I can face the day