1 week lurking and researching and now the time has come.

[Baditude]

Hmmm might be a dumb question but what is the significance of it firing at 3.7 versus 3.4?

You'll find that there are literally hundreds of e-liquid flavors. All these flavors might taste slightly better at a different voltage, hense the recent popularity of the eGo Spinner and Twist variable voltage batteries. Each individual flavor might have better flavor vaporized at 3.4 volts, or 3.7 volts, or 4.0 volts, or up to 5 volts. "Fixed voltage" batteries only output a single voltage when fully charged, and then gradually output lesser voltage as the battery is drained during use. So you may not realize the full flavor potential of a juice with a fixed voltage battery.

For example, I have fruit flavors that taste best at 3.4-3.7v, coffee flavors that taste best at 4.4-4.8v, and a cinnamon flavor that tastes best at 5.4v. I use a variable voltage PV that allows me to adjust the voltage on the fly for whatever flavor that I put on it.

Depending upon the ohm rating or resistance of the heating element used in the delivery device, low voltage batteries could mean less vapor production.

 

[capelli]

OK I have had a chance to try this out now with cartos and clearos and I'm not sure what I'm getting here, I am getting quite a dry hit and very little vapour.

Any thoughts?

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Are you using cartomizers or clearomizer? Did you charge the battery?

 

[capelli]

I have used two cartomizers with two different flavours and one clearomizer.
I have one battery on charge and the other I started using out the pack.

 

[heyscotttt]

Welcome! I just made the plunge to e-cig too. I ordered myself starter kit from gotvapes today and excited for it to come!

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

When you filled the cartos did they look "slushie" on top? With the clearos you may have to tilt and roll horizontally to fully prime the wicks. Some batteries don't come fully charged.

I have used two cartomizers with two different flavours and one clearomizer.
I have one battery on charge and the other I started using out the pack.

 

[capelli]

Yes the cartomizers looked slushie and i added the recommended number of drops.
I gave the clearomizer a horizontal turn or two and changed the battery but I don't see any difference.

Maybe my expectations were a bit too high but based on the video reviews I watched I am not replicating anything near.
The flavours seem bland and I am not sure if that again is me, the liquid, or something else.
Maybe I don't draw enough... not quite the experience I was expecting...

Has definitely made me thirsty though lol

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

You should have plumes of vapor. First make sure battery is clean of juice.Next, on the carto at the battery end, there is a small metal tube- it's possible this is not making a good connection with the battery. Let me find a vid...
Here's a text solution:
Atomizer and Cartomizer Connection Problems | Vaping Guides to the Electronic Cigarette
Here's a vid- pull it out 1/ 32" GENTLY with a paperclip. Relevant part starts at 2:38 mins

Yes the cartomizers looked slushie and i added the recommended number of drops.
I gave the clearomizer a horizontal turn or two and changed the battery but I don't see any difference.

Maybe my expectations were a bit too high but based on the video reviews I watched I am not replicating anything near.
The flavours seem bland and I am not sure if that again is me, the liquid, or something else.
Maybe I don't draw enough... not quite the experience I was expecting...

Has definitely made me thirsty though lol

 

[capelli]

Thanks for all your help with this.
I tried raising the tube with a paper clip, not sure I made much difference to it really, but I gave all the connections a good clean.

I have come to the conclusion that it is probably just me and my techniique and that I am new to all this, I think my mind set is that you smoke these exactly the same as a cigarette but I think a larger draw is require on these.

I changed my technique a bit and it seemed to be just fine, but should you press the button on PV for a second or two before you vape or just as you vape?

Also do you have a favourite make of juice as I am wondering if what I bought is rubbish as it taste so bland, I was expecting something with more of taste to it.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

I changed my technique a bit and it seemed to be just fine, but should you press the button on PV for a second or two before you vape or just as you vape?

You're welcome...just wish you didn't have such a rough start.
Yes that's something I forgot to tell you. "Priming" is easy with manuals. If we need a stronger hit then just hold button for 2 secs before inhaling. Yeah it is slightly different than smoking. As for flavors I DIY all my stuff...best to ask in the UK Forum
This is what I did when I first began:
Best to buy samples to find your likes and dislikes. When I first began vaping I bought 30 wide ranging samples. Out of those 30 I liked 10. Immediately ordered another 20 and out of those I liked 10…so out 50 different flavors I enjoyed 20. Months later I tried those 30 samples that I disliked and enjoyed all but one. Whether it was because my tastes had changed or they needed steeping I don’t know. Realize also "same name" juices will vary greatly in taste from vendor to vendor as they all have diff recipes and order ingredients from diff Suppliers.
So I bought 50 samples at $3 each= $150 total. At that time juice was selling for $15-$20 per 30 ml bottle so I would've ended up spending $750.00!!!
Juice Components
Flavoring usually about 15%- could be higher or lower depending on the flavor used.
PG enhances flavor, TH and lung hit- water like
VG= vapor and can mute flavor- thick
Nicotine- TH, lung hit and our need for nicotine. The MOST important ingredient in regards to TH and lung hit.
Standards in the industry are 80/ 20 or 70/ 30 PG/ VG. I vape 70/ 30 PG/ VG.
Most new vapers start at 18 or 24 mg nicotine. I started at 36...others have started at 12 mg.

 

[capelli]

I need to have a good look around for juices, I currently have 70/30 PG/VG but I am just not getting much flavour through, they are 18mg.

I have noticed that occasionally vaping tonight has made me cough when I have inhaled, I presume that is just the transition?

 

[Baditude]

Since you are a new vapor, realize that your taste buds have been damaged from years of smoking. They'll heal, but takes time.

Technique for vaping an e-cig is slower, more deliberate draws 3-6 seconds into your mouth. Inhale if you desire. It's not necessary with vapor to inhale to get the nicotine as it is absorbed in the mouth-throat-nose.

Then release the vapor, some thru the nose. Our sense of smell assists our damaged tongue to interpret flavors.

Drink PLENTY of water. Vaping can cause dry mouth and even dehydration, which can also affect one's ability to taste.

And yes, vaping can cause coughing in the early stages. It took your body time to adjust to cigarette smoke, it will also take some time to adjust to vapor.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Good news is your lung cilia which, for a fact, have not only been buried in tar but also paralyzed by the chems in analogs begin to heal almost immediately- within 1-2 days.

 

[440BB]

Don't let those battered taste buds fool you! Everything will start to taste different in the first few weeks, so a juice that's weak today may taste much better in time. Another factor is if the juice was prepared recently, it's flavor may deepen with age - referred to among vapers as "steeping". This can happen over a week or so, and you can accelerate the process by leaving the top off the bottle for a day or two. God luck!

 

[Bwig]

welcome to the forum and congrads on the switch and you will be very pleased with the transition. I always recommend to those who are new to vaping to start with a simple 510 or 808d1 kit that comes with 2 batteries, charger, 5 prefilled catomizers. Keep it simple with standard batteries and the prefilled carts until you get the hang of vaping, this will make things much easier and a much more pleasant vaping experience. When you learn the vaping basic then you can move up to the more advance model.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

I think I know what the problem is. Vape Escape sells either Standard Resistance or Low Resistance heads for the clearomizer.
Low Resistance (LR) 2.1-2.4ohms
Standard Resistance (SR) 2.5-2.9ohms
Vision Ego V2 Rainbow Long Wick £4.50 - Vaping Spares - Cartomisers Electronic Cigarettes | Vaping Devices | Accessories | E-Liquid
I'll bet the head you have in your clearo is the SR/ 2.5- 2.9 ohms...much too high for a 3.7 volt PV and would give a very weak and cool vape. I enjoy a warm vape and use 1.8 ohms on my Kgo. 2.0 is the highest I'd go. With My Spinner/ Twist I use 2.4 ohms at 4.5 volts.
I would email Jason and ask if the head is SR or LR.

 

[capelli]

I think I know what the problem is. Vape Escape sells either Standard Resistance or Low Resistance heads for the clearomizer.
Low Resistance (LR) 2.1-2.4ohms
Standard Resistance (SR) 2.5-2.9ohms
Vision Ego V2 Rainbow Long Wick £4.50 - Vaping Spares - Cartomisers Electronic Cigarettes | Vaping Devices | Accessories | E-Liquid
I'll bet the head you have in your clearo is the SR/ 2.5- 2.9 ohms...much too high for a 3.7 volt PV and would give a very weak and cool vape. I enjoy a warm vape and use 1.8 ohms on my Kgo. 2.0 is the highest I'd go. With My Spinner/ Twist I use 2.4 ohms at 4.5 volts.
I would email Jason and ask if the head is SR or LR.

Thanks guys for your help, i read all the posts and each one teaches me a little bit more.

Yes it is an SR clearomizer, and SR Cartomizers, do you think that is the issue and I would be better off with LR's?

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Big diff. Like I said with my Spinner and twist I vape 2.4 ohms (less than yours) at 4.5 volts. I've tried the 2.4 ohms on my Kgo and no TH or lung hit and very weak/ cool vape. Vivi Nova heads come in 1.8, 2.4 and 2.8 ohms.
Actually the very best delivery device I've ever used on my Kgo are the Smok Tech 1.7 ohm XL cartos.

Thanks guys for your help, i read all the posts and each one teaches me a little bit more.

Yes it is an SR clearomizer, and SR Cartomizers, do you think that is the issue and I would be better off with LR's?

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Post #8...
"When I first began vaping I used Boge 2.0 ohm single coil cartos (1 ml). After 1 month I switched to Smok Tech XL 1.7 single coil cartos (1.8 ml). Next I used a carto+and tank (3ml) setup. When the cracking and wicking issues were resolved I got into Stardust Clearos (1.6 ml). I now use the Mini Vivi Nova (2.0 ml) rebuildables as I feel they give a better draw and are far superior in quality. It is VERY important to match the correct ohms delivery device to the PV we are using otherwise, dry hits or a weak vape will occur.
Best of Luck."

The problem with many delivery devices is the inaccuracy ohms wise. That's why the SR clearo is "2.5-2.9 ohms"...could be anywhere in that range. Vivis are no different. Smok Tech 1.8 cartos range from 1.6- 2.0. The most accurate I've used are the Boges...+ or - .1 And the only way to know the ohms is to test with a digital multi tester.

Thanks guys for your help, i read all the posts and each one teaches me a little bit more.

Yes it is an SR clearomizer, and SR Cartomizers, do you think that is the issue and I would be better off with LR's?

 

[capelli]

I am now approaching 24 hours without a cigarette, I was asleep for 6 of them I guess.
A small achievement as it maybe but I am quite impressed all the same with the e-cig ability, I have had some shaky moments and my thirst and hunger have rocketed a bit but thats no problem for me as i train every other day.
I have really noticed the pattern though, so much is routine I think, at this time I get coffee and have a cig, then i go there and have a cig on the way etc... except today it was with an e-cig.