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Those might not be available anymore, the manufacturer went out of business.
Well, I was looking for recommendations from users who vape at the same watts as myself. I have noticed that anyone with any post with the word battery in it is immediately told to go to Mooch's blog which is what I didn't want. Kinda wanted advice from actual end users...
Unfortunately, I don't think there are many people who vape at 13 watts, so you might be waiting a long time if you want to hear from others. I vape in that vicinity, but I've only tried the Samsung 30Q, Samsung 25R and LG HG2. They're quite similar, with the 25R requiring charging a bit more often than the others (which is just what one would expect from the numbers).
I am going to refer you to Mooch, but it's just a simple list of recommended batteries rather than a technical discussion. At 13 watts, you'll want one of batteries under the 'High Capacity 18650' heading in the chart here.
In theory, the battery with a suitable CDR and the highest mAh (LG MJ1 with 3500) should last the longest for you. As others have said, reality is a bit more complicated. I don't think you'd notice a significant difference with any of the batteries in that category.
There are no 18650s suitable for vaping at any wattage with a capacity over 3500 mAh.
If you scroll down on the chart I linked to, you'll find a blue section listing reliable vendors. Except for batteryjunction, the vendors you linked to are all included there, so I wouldn't worry about buying from them - as long as you select a good battery to buy.
I strongly suggest choosing from Mooch's recommended list unless you know quite a bit about batteries. It's an excellent resource that will point you directly to the best batteries even if you don't want to get into the technical data.
I vape at 8.5 watts and use the LG HG2s and Samsung 25r. I bought the 25r because they were on sale, and to be honest, I don't really notice the difference. I may get an extra half a day with the LGs.
I might go through 4 batteries in a week.
I vape around 12-13 watts as well. I tend to use Samsung 25r, but not because of battery performance or anything, it's mostly because they provide the amps I need with a good, reliable, and affordable battery.
I vape at 10.5 - 12 watts. About a year ago I replaced my batteries. I wanted to be able to go up to 30 watts or a little higher if I chose to, but that will not happen often.
35 watts will draw around 15A max, 13 watts is around 5.5A. After doing my research I got a bunch of Samsung 30Q, 3000 mAh. I believe they do very well for me at my normal wattage and if I chose to raise the watts they are still just fine.
I bought mine from Illumn.com because they are on my list of trusted battery suppliers. Orbtronic is also, the other two in your OP are not.
Hope that helps.
By switching to the NCR18650GA you should be able to get at least 5% more vaping time.
The problem with your question is that no-one has bought every type of battery and vaped with it whilst recording all the parameters - voltage, resistance, duration etc - because life tends to get in the way of stuff like that.
And really, does it matter if one cell lasts 4 minutes longer than another ? . . In my experience i would recommend that you aim for the middle ground - a mixture of capacity and CDR, hedging toward the higher amp rated batteries to reduce battery sag.
And really, does it matter if one cell lasts 4 minutes longer than another ? . . In my experience i would recommend that you aim for the middle ground - a mixture of capacity and CDR, hedging toward the higher amp rated batteries to reduce battery sag.
At 13 watts the voltage sag you get with the NCR18650GA is not much different when compared to using the Samsung 30Q. Whether the OP wants more vaping time is for the OP to decide, and, FIY, at such low power you can rest assured that 5% more vaping time is still one heck of a lot more than just 4 minutes.
It offers only mediocre performance. If people use it, probably it's because the better ones are not available to them due to where they live, or else they just don't know because they don't know Mooch.
Samsung 35E 3500mAh 18650 Bench Test Results...a so-so 8A battery
I would recommend the Samsung 30q.
It’s only 3000mah, but you get that little bit of extra headroom for safety.
Stay away from the protected batteries.
It’s only 3000mah, but you get that little bit of extra headroom for safety.
Stay away from the protected batteries.
Perhaps 5 minutes. Real time..... Of course i am only using my real-life experience of vaping for 10 years as a guide. CDR and voltage sag (internal resistance) plays a bigger part in battery performance and longevity of a useable charge than most give credit for.
Thanks dipster for my first ever 'disagree'. Bored much ?
Thanks dipster for my first ever 'disagree'. Bored much ?
Lots of low wattage vapers out there. I rarely exceed 14 watts, for one. Everyone is giving you good suggestions and YES battery sag is a thing, I mean that is why everyone says don't push your batteries to 11. The same principle applies in low wattage vaping. Get a bit more than you need.
No one is too "low wattage" to not consider the experts on battery safety and if you know WHY something is so, then you can be even SAFER. Also "I don't want to read a bunch of INFORMATION just gimme the answer???"
My suspicion is you know very little about batteries in GENERAL which is fine I also knew NOTHING about them either. But, you sought to get information you could understand. Only instead of just saying so you offered a bunch of hostility at someone you should thank and you should oh boy ever thank those members of this board who kindly saved you from yourself while giving you chunks of Mooch info in digestible (for you chunks.)
Yes a mind can be so open it is vacant.
It can also be so closed it's a dead short in there.
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No one is too "low wattage" to not consider the experts on battery safety and if you know WHY something is so, then you can be even SAFER. Also "I don't want to read a bunch of INFORMATION just gimme the answer???"
My suspicion is you know very little about batteries in GENERAL which is fine I also knew NOTHING about them either. But, you sought to get information you could understand. Only instead of just saying so you offered a bunch of hostility at someone you should thank and you should oh boy ever thank those members of this board who kindly saved you from yourself while giving you chunks of Mooch info in digestible (for you chunks.)
Yes a mind can be so open it is vacant.
It can also be so closed it's a dead short in there.
My head
Anna
Many, many low watters out there. Like myself, they are getting the nic fix without the cloud blowing. Because they may not be interested in the hobby side of vaping, they don't say much on this forum. Some are social though, but they aren't necessarily talking about vaping.
There have been polls in the past and the numbers were surprising.
There have been polls in the past and the numbers were surprising.
Ok, so your quote "Come on now. The only rational reason to this post is like, you would like us to give you the "least dangerous" battery that is still dangerous." How did you jump to this wild conclusion? Three of the batteries I cited have never been in any way unsafe for vaping. (Sanyo NCR18650GA, [URL='https://www.18650batterystore.com/Samsung-18650-p/samsung-35e.htm?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIwfy8lvqV6QIVCIbICh3v-wUOEAQYASABEgKcV_D_BwE']Samsung 35E, [URL='https://www.batteryjunction.com/sony-vc7.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIwfy8lvqV6QIVCIbICh3v-wUOEAQYAiABEgKyY_D_BwE']Sony VC7[/URL][/URL]) The other two are protected, and I probably shouldn't have cited them, but I was trying to find the longest lasting 3500MAH 18650 and they came up in a search. Sorry, that was my terrible, awful, ignorant mistake. I should now be thoroughly lectured about battery safety forever. If someone had recommended one of those I would have done further research and found them to be unsuitable for my mod. Let me ask you this, should I only post in this forum if I already have the answer to my own question? Isn't the purpose of a forum to share information between members? In my initial post, I simply said don't refer me to Mooch and don't give me battery safety information because I knew that would really be the only responses I would get if I didn't add that to my post. I simply wanted recommendations based on actual user experience. Is that too much to ask? Everyone is so ready to jump down the throat of anyone here that has even the slightest thing wrong in what they say. I posted this the other day Samsung 50E 21700 5000mAh and it quickly devolved into an argument about technical information between several members. Does every post here have to be an argument about something? Again to quote you "Only instead of just saying so you offered a bunch of hostility at someone" A member directed me to Mooch's blog and I asked him if he had read the part in my post saying I didn't want to be directed there. How is that hostility? Don't get me wrong, I am aware that Mooch is the authority on batteries and does great work here, but again, I wanted actual user experiences not just a bunch of people telling me to go to Mooch's blog. I would have to agree with you "I don't want to read a bunch of INFORMATION just gimme the answer???" that is what I wanted based on users that vape around 13 watts and the experiences they have had with different 18650's. Why is that bad? Do I need to become a battery expert to ask for a recommendation or should I do that so I can argue endlessly in these forums? I guess if I ever have any question about a battery I should only go to Mooch's blog and not dare to ask any members about their own experiences. Consider me educated.Lots of low wattage vapers out there. I rarely exceed 14 watts, for one. Everyone is giving you good suggestions and YES battery sag is a thing, I mean that is why everyone says don't push your batteries to 11. The same principle applies in low wattage vaping. Get a bit more than you need.
No one is too "low wattage" to not consider the experts on battery safety and if you know WHY something is so, then you can be even SAFER. Also "I don't want to read a bunch of INFORMATION just gimme the answer???"
My suspicion is you know very little about batteries in GENERAL which is fine I also knew NOTHING about them either. But, you sought to get information you could understand. Only instead of just saying so you offered a bunch of hostility at someone you should thank and you should oh boy ever thank those members of this board who kindly saved you from yourself while giving you chunks of Mooch info in digestible (for you chunks.)
Yes a mind can be so open it is vacant.
It can also be so closed it's a dead short in there.
My head
Anna
I know you don’t want to hear from me but this video might not be too technical:
My Recommended Batteries tables are pretty straightforward. Choose the one for regulated devices: Mooch's Recommended Batteries | E-Cigarette Forum
My testing is actual use. Batteries don’t know if they are in a mod or in a battery analyzer. There’s almost no difference in the vaping time you would get when measuring your own use and the results of my tests. When I test ultra high capacity 18650’s at 15W the ones that run the longest for me will most likely run the longest for you too. That’s why I do the testing.
When you ask for “real world use” you’re asking for a huge number of new variables to be added (some we may not even be aware of) and all of our personal biases tossed in too. It makes comparing battery performance that way very difficult unless there are a huge number of responses. I’m not saying don’t ask. It’s just that we have to be aware that it can be tough to go by just that.
Whatever source you use, I hope you find some great batteries to choose from!
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Thanks! Sorry for the rant. I hardly ever post here, but I do read a lot and had noticed almost all battery questions were directed to you. I was just looking for end user opinions as another source of information.
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