18650 eGo Mod

[JimmyJet]

Joyetech eGo-T Mod 18650 2200mAh Battery - MyFreedomSmokes.com

I purchased one of these today and love it. Nice looking and a great bargain. One nice feature is that once the battery is installed, the unit can be recharged using a standard eGo charger. No need to remove the battery or buy a universal charger.

Another nice feature is that it can run in regulated or unregulated mode. Unregulated mode definitely hits harder. I also believe this is the lightest 18650 mod I have ever used.

Thanks MFS,

JJ

 

[TTK]

Bought the same unit from MSF. It is my first ecig with removal battery. I do like it but it doesn't hit any harder than my Ego 650 mah. I was uncertain about the use of the Joytech unprotected battery, since ECF says not to do that, but no one could shed any light on that with the EGO control unit (posted the question in the APV forum). I bought an AW 3100 mah battery from super-t. So I have both the Joytech 18650 battery and the AW to go with it. The AW battery is about 3mm longer but will work in this mod.

 

[JimmyJet]

True, unprotected batteries are a no-no except for safe chemistry batteries. I am using AW IMR batteries because I already had some. Where did you learn that the Joytech 18650 is unprotected? I'd be curious to know because that is a very important detail.

Been using this unit all day and liking it even more. I haven't seen a bargain like this in a long time. Serious bang for the buck. This little beauty is a winner.

JJ

 

[TTK]

I thought I read it on the MFS web site, but I cannot find that now. The Joytech 18650 battery does not say protected on it, just ICR 18650 2200 mah 3.7v. The black AW 3100 mah does say protection built in on the battery. But, from an external view, they appear to have the same types of end caps, just 3mm longer for the AW. I have been using both the Joytech and AW batteries in it. I believe the tube end cap is designed to release in case of any pressure build up like the regular EGOs. And, do the regular EGOs have protected batteries in them?

 

[JimmyJet]

Thanks for the reply. This is a common source of confusion. So many batteries are made in China, re-branded, re-labeled, and in the end it's hard to know for sure. Protected batteries are typically a couple mm longer because of the protection circuitry.

 

[TTK]

I just found where I saw that the Joytech 18650 2200 mah battery is unprotected. It is at Health Cabin. They sell the Joytech battery for this mod. Look on their web site you will see it.

 

[JimmyJet]

I just found where I saw that the Joytech 18650 2200 mah battery is unprotected. It is at Health Cabin. They sell the Joytech battery for this mod. Look on their web site you will see it.

Yes I definitely see that now. Good find. Glad I chose to use my AW IMR batteries. Maybe the fine folks at MFS should look into the details of this battery. This is not meant to slam MFS. There are so many batteries on the market it's hard to keep up. This may or may not be the same battery but it sure looks like it.

Joye 2200mAh Unprotected 18650 Li-ion Battery (Only for Veteran)

 

[TTK]

Other than size and replaceability, what would be the difference in using this Joytech 18650 battery and using a standard EGO in regards to safety? It is the battery that Joytech makes for this mod.

 

[JimmyJet]

Regarding battery safety, much has been written in this forum...

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...9007-warning-rechargeable-batteries-apvs.html

An unprotected battery should not be used. Period. Fires and explosions can and have happened. There is no such thing as a 100% safe battery. Even eGo batteries have failed...

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/battery-issues/273146-ego-t-battery-exploded.html

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ego-type-models/217880-exploding-ego-t-battery.html

 

[TTK]

Since I have two of the Joytech 18650 batteries, I have ordered the Vape-Safe to use with them when I do not have the AW battery in.

 

[JimmyJet]

Thanks very much. Never heard of the Vape-Safe until now. Looks like a good safety product.

 

[TTK]

Yesterday I sent an email to MFS asking them about this issue. No response so far. The MOD they are selling comes with one of these Joytech 18650 battery. I ordered a second one at the same time, but there was no indication on their description that it was unprotected. The vape-safe is on its way from Nhaler($9.00).I am not using them until the vape-safe arrives.

 

[TTK]

I am beginning to change my opinion of MSF. On this issue, no response to my email asking for confirmation that the Joytech 18650 battery is unprotected, no response in this forum thread to clarify their knowledge on the question rasied, and after receiving an email to review my purchase, I gave it 4 stars, but raised the issue that the battery supplied appeared to be unprotected and they have not published the review.

 

[Bearded Vapor]

Hello everyone, I am sorry about the responses on the emails. For the last two day we have had some trouble with our network. I will have Dustin give you a response back when he gets in this morning. sorry for the inconvenience.

 

[TaylorMade]

Hey guys, sorry for the delayed response. We've had several tech issues this week that had to be taken care of immediately to make sure that our orders were still going out in a timely manner. We've got our network working well again, but I really haven't had much time to browse the forums lately.

I am trying to get some more information from Joyetech regarding the batteries used in this product, but at first glance they do seem to be unprotected. If this is confirmed we will certainly make note of it on our site and inform our customers about any risks associated with using this product. However, with Joyetech's stellar reputation for quality and reliability it is hard to believe that this product is truly dangerous. I'm not saying that it is not dangerous because I don't have all the info yet, but it is just hard to believe that they would sell a dangerous product to their customers.

We are also looking into getting some known protected batteries in stock as a second option for our customers. In the coming weeks I can assure you that we will have a lot more information regarding this product and will update our site appropriately.

 

[TTK]

Thank you. Also got an email from Dustin saying the same thing. I agree that Joytech quality is excellent and I am interested in hearing their reply to this issue.

 

[TaylorMade]

TTK, btw I am Dustin.

 

[JimmyJet]

Thanks for looking into this Dustin. I too am surprised that there is a question, given the good reputation of Joyetech. But nonetheless, the question remains.

Perhaps the easiest way to get the answer would be to cut the casing off of one of your Joyetech 18650s. Protected batteries have a round circuit protection board about the size of a dime. This is why protected batteries are slightly longer than unprotected batteries. See photo...



And by the way, this is still one heck of a nice mod at a bargain price. I am using AW IMR 18650's in mine. Of all the vaping stuff I've purchased over the past year, this is the best $18 I ever spent.

 

[TTK]

You are right JimmyJet. It seems to me that the unprotected 18650s are 65 mm long and the protected ones are 68 mm long. That is not presented as a fact, just what I have observed in my search for 18650 batteries. The blue Joytechs are 65 mm long.
You must have bought the tube and switch separately. I bought the package that included the Joytech battery plus one additional battery.

 

[JimmyJet]

Since I have two of the Joytech 18650 batteries, I have ordered the Vape-Safe to use with them when I do not have the AW battery in.

Well we're still waiting for confirmation but in the meantime I've been looking into the Vape-Safe. Yes it is a good product. Basically it is a fuse designed to protect against a "hard short". This is a good thing of course.

But keep in mind that a "hard short" is a failure of the mod itself. Unprotected batteries can also fail (thermally) in other ways. So the Vape-Safe is only one layer of protection. Unprotected batteries can still have a thermal failure even with a Vape-Safe.

Just food for thought. Safety first.

JJ