18650 suggestions?

[PsykoFlounder]

So I know I need an 18650, or, you know, four of them. But I'm so broke I can't even pay OH! Look! A bird! .... Sorry.

I figured cyber monday would be a good time to look into buying batteries, since my loverly woman and SkinyFatMan are pitching in together and getting me a Vamo V5 for my birthday.

Any tips would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Dakota Jim]

My best tip

don't buy any battery that has fire in the name ie: truefire, trustfire (yeah, ok) etc. these are cheap, inexpensive batteries that do not work well with APV's - they are designed for low load flashlights

go for IMR, Efest, Panasonic, Sony, etc (oh and unprotected - protected batts won't fit in your vamo - too long)

 

[emus]

Samsung INR 18650 20-R is among the highest performance high drain batts available.
Bought mine from r-lsales. Had total system voltage drop of about 0.3v with 0.6 ohm load.

 

[emus]

R-lsales Samsung INR18650-20R vs FT Sony 10A 18650
Samsung 20R 18650 about 4 days old.
Sony 10A 18650 about 2 weeks old.

Atty is Trident 0.6 ohm quad coil.
Device is china junk with hot spring.

Voltage with 0.6 ohm load:
Samsung 20R = 3.86v
Sony 10A = 3.65v

No load voltage after load test:
Samsung 20R = 4.2v
Sony 10A = 4.19 v

Voltage drop:
Samsung 20R = 0.34v
Sony 10A = 0.54V

BTW: My protected 18350 ultrafire and trustfire batts seemed to outlast AW IMR, efest IMR and nhaler IMR in 2 amp PV applications. Performed well till shrink wrap worn out. Not sure why so many ****fire haters. Protected batts are not designed for high drain applications. Pros and cons. Don't see need for fire haters; just avoid counterfeits and use within design parameters.

 

[PsykoFlounder]

Thanks guys! time to start digging around, now that I know more what I'm looking for.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

These are the batts I use in my Vamo and am very happy with them:
Panasonic CGR18650CH High Drain 10A Hybrid IMR Li ion 18650 Battery CGR18650 x 2 | eBay
If buying batts make sure they are:
High Drain
Unprotected
Safe Chemistry

 

[emus]

Some mods require flat bottom and shrink wrap extended over outer edges of bottom to avoid misfire.
The Samsung 20R has flat bottom and shrink wrap is extended about 1/8" on bottom; good.
The Sony 10amp has shrink wrap but protruding bottom may cause issue w/ some mods.

Flat top vs button top should be considered. Total batt length is important for some PVs.

 

[stylezuk]

[h=2]BATTERY INFORMATION.
[/h][h=1]A LITTLE ON BATTERY SAFETY[/h]

Samsung INR18650-20R are what use in manual but in a protected mod Panasonic NCR18650B 3400mah Unprotected.

 

[Davinna]

sorry, error...

 

[Baditude]

BATTERY INFORMATION

PBusardo is using my recommended battery list. For your Vamo, I recommend either the AW 18650 or the Panasonics that are in bold type; both can be found at RTD Vapor and Orbtronic:

Recommended high-drain, safe-chemistry, IMR & hybrid batteries:

AW IMR
18650 2000mah 10Amp CDR
18650 1600mah 24A
18490 (1100mah) 16.5A
18350 ​(700mah) 6A

MNKE IMR (recently discontinued)
18650 1500mah ​20A

Panasonic ​or Orbtronic hybrid
CGR18650CH (IMR/hybrid) 2250mAh 10A
NCR18650PF (LiNiCOMnO2) INR/ICR/IMR Hybrid 2900mAh 10A
NCR18650PD (LiNiCoAl) 2900mAh 10A
Orbtronic 18650 SX22 (hybrid) 2000mAh 22A

Sanyo
UR18650EX 2000mAh 20A

Samsung hybrid (LiNiCoMnP)
INR18650-22P 2200mAh 10A
INR18650-20R 2000mah 22A

Sony hybrid
us18650v3 IMR 2250mAh 10A
us18650vct3 1600mAh 30A
us18650vtc4 2100 mAh 30A

EH IMR
18650 2000 mAh 16A
18650 1500 mAh 22A
18500 1100 mAh 8.8A
18350 800 mAh 6.4A

Efest IMR
18650 (IMR/hybrid) 2250mAh 10A
18650 2000mAh 10A
18650 1600mAh 30A
18490 1100mah 8.8A
18350 800mah 6.4A

Battery Basics for Mods: IMR or Protected ICR?

 

[Jay-dub]

You surely want to compare prices but I got these: Panasonic NCR18650B 3400mAh Battery | Flat Top | eVic - EVcigarettes.com. They should work unless you need a battery with a "nipple".

 

[yzer]

Efest.

Efest IMR 18650 2000mah 3.7V LiMn Battery with Flat top / e-cigs and battery mods.

 

[here_miah]

I am having a hell of a time finding any information about these batteries that I pulled out of an old Lenovo ThinkPad pattery pack- yes, I have tried google and to no avail. has anyone ever tried using the Green Sony US18650GR batteries in a mechanical mod WITHOUT a kick or penny/safety fuse?

 

[hy_cupcakes]

i think the aw batteries are the best batteries out there, and one of the safest

 

[SkinyFatMan]

You surely want to compare prices but I got these: Panasonic NCR18650B 3400mAh Battery | Flat Top | eVic - EVcigarettes.com. They should work unless you need a battery with a "nipple".

These are the ones that I'm using in my Vamo V3 right now, but I got mine at fasttech. I highly recomment them, but maybe not right now with all the slowness in shipping from China.

 

[Baditude]

You surely want to compare prices but I got these: Panasonic NCR18650B 3400mAh Battery | Flat Top | eVic - EVcigarettes.com. They should work unless you need a battery with a "nipple".

Those batteries may "work", but they are not "ideal" for a regulated mod. These are not "high drain" batteries. (They have a 6.8 amp limit.)

Regulated mods use PWM (pulse width modulation) boost circuitry which can demand up to 2X the set amp current to achieve your desired voltage setting. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/provape/334831-technical-why-high-drain-batteries.html

So, these batteries should not be used in regulated mods, mechanical mods using a Kick, or if you use an RBA/RDA.

 

[emus]

These are the ones that I'm using in my Vamo V3 right now, but I got mine at fasttech. I highly recomment them, but maybe not right now with all the slowness in shipping from China.

Are those the pannys void of shrink wrap on the bottom?
Giving chiyou, vella, etc users an always firing problem.
Maybe no worries for Vamo vapers.

 

[Baditude]

I am having a hell of a time finding any information about these batteries that I pulled out of an old Lenovo ThinkPad pattery pack- yes, I have tried google and to no avail. has anyone ever tried using the Green Sony US18650GR batteries in a mechanical mod WITHOUT a kick or penny/safety fuse?

I definitely would NOT use any battery removed from a computer. They are unprotected ICR batteries which should never be used in a mechanical or regulated mod. Useful for use in a flashlight, but not in a mechanical mod.

Sony US18650GR ??? - RC Groups

Review: Sony US18650GR 2550mAh laptop cell | BudgetLightForum.com

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Those batteries may "work", but they are not "ideal" for a regulated mod. These are not "high drain" batteries. (They have a 6.8 amp limit.)

Regulated mods use PWM (pulse width modulation) boost circuitry which can demand up to 2X the set voltage to acheive your desired voltage setting. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/provape/334831-technical-why-high-drain-batteries.html

So, these batteries should not be used in regulated mods, mechanical mods using a Kick, or if you use an RBA/RDA.

Bad is right. I bought a pair of the 3400 from FT and not really performing all that well in my Vamo. Bought them cuz they were cheap and based on the hype...GREAT batts but not on the Vamo.

 

[stylezuk]

Those batteries may "work", but they are not "ideal" for a regulated mod. These are not "high drain" batteries. (They have a 6.8 amp limit.)

Regulated mods use PWM (pulse width modulation) boost circuitry which can demand up to 2X the set amp current to achieve your desired voltage setting. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/provape/334831-technical-why-high-drain-batteries.html

So, these batteries should not be used in regulated mods, mechanical mods using a Kick, or if you use an RBA/RDA.

Yes that's why use the Pan B's in Vamo as 1.3 is lowest capable ohm's and since 1.8 is what I'm using still far from thresh hold and the INR with 22A in my Mec Mod with Kick 2, should have really stated that it's your list but it's just a bookmark and I know who from, so thanks once again