18mg to 0.

[Adamwoods]

I have no doubt that is absolutely true. Once you have truly kicked the smokes, nicotine isn't that evil and most vapers can go many hours or longer without feeling bad.
I can do almost a day.

I know for sure i won't go back to smoking. I'll reach 2 years in September when i stopped smoking and started vaping. I did try one last year and almost made me vomit, that isn't an exaggeration. When i look back im not sure how i done it and now know what non smokers smell and taste with a cig nearby. I was just hoping to get rid of nicotine for good, not sure if i'll ever quit vaping though.

Adam

 

[djsvapour]

Really? I've found plenty of websites with people selling those. Is it illegal?
I had found this one on eBay i was going to buy.
72mg 7.2% Unflavoured Nicotine Base USP Grade In Propylene Glycol | eBay

Yes, that is illegal. No question.
You can take the risk. The seller could face prosecution under the law and there is no chance you'd get your money back if something went wrong.

 

[Adamwoods]

Yes, that is illegal. No question.
You can take the risk. The seller could face prosecution under the law and there is no chance you'd get your money back if something went wrong.

Okay then, might just keep my distance from them. I suppose i can always buy them individually.

Thanks for the heads up.
Adam

 

[rob33]

I started vaping a few months ago.
I use 6 mg juice.
I still smoke about 10 cigs a day.
I plan to go the other direction and up the nic to 12.
That’s just me.

Terry just bump it up, get off the tobacco. In a few weeks you will feel tons better. Either bump up the nicotine or switch to a more efficient system like a RDA

I cut the nic too fast and went back to the stinkies for a while. Bad idea, you ask me. If 18mg has gotten you off the smokes, stick with it until you're sure you can stay off. Don't go to 0, try cutting back to 12. If the cravings get bad, go back up. If you're ok with 12, stick with it for a while and then cut to 6 or so. Just my

While that worked for a day, I do recommend cutting back slowly. I started with 36mg back in the day (2008)as equipment progressed I was able to cut back. At one point I was dripping 18mg, I'm at 6mg now.

 

[go_player]

Okay then, might just keep my distance from them. I suppose i can always buy them individually.

Oh plox... "The seller could face prosecution under the law..." OK then. An asteroid could hit your house tomorrow too.

If I were you I'd be buying up nic from sellers who "could face prosecution under the law" like there was no tomorrow. Right now it's still easy enough to get nic, even if it's illegal, but tomorrow it might not be.

 

[djsvapour]

Oh plox... "The seller could face prosecution under the law..." OK then. An asteroid could hit your house tomorrow too.

If I were you I'd be buying up nic from sellers who "could face prosecution under the law" like there was no tomorrow. Right now it's still easy enough to get nic, even if it's illegal, but tomorrow it might not be.

True enough.

 

[Mike McVape]

I know for sure i won't go back to smoking. I'll reach 2 years in September when i stopped smoking and started vaping. I did try one last year and almost made me vomit, that isn't an exaggeration. When i look back im not sure how i done it and now know what non smokers smell and taste with a cig nearby. I was just hoping to get rid of nicotine for good, not sure if i'll ever quit vaping though.

Adam

Congrats on coming up on 2 years smoke free. All the research I've done seems nicotine the least harmful substance in cigarette smoke though addictive for sure. But addictive much the same as caffeine is addicting and about "as harmful". Which is to say nicotine in moderation isn't really very harmful if harmful at all.

Even though a 48 year 1.5 PAD smoker I started much lower 6mg nic because started with a Smok Stick V8 sub-ohm kit. 5 days in went to 4.5mg, another 5 days went to 3mg and staying there for now. Maybe someday I'll go 0mg nic but not worried about it in the least at the moment.

 

[QcVaper]

When you want to quit cigs with vaping there's one thing you need to do imho :be ressourcefull, since you're bound to have some withdrawls make sure to not run out of juice and get a couple coils extra (better be safe than sorry is what i'd say here) I started with 15mg with a mtl setup (nautilus tank) switched to sub 0hm vaping which i won't explain how or why here but as i've heard you get twice the nic intake from doing dtl (direct to lung) so in theory the now 6mg i vape is making me intake 12mg (no i don't get nic buzz like i used to and my juice taste 100x better that way) on my first 1-2 weeks i was still smoking 1/day with my morning coffee and then went cold turkey after that last pack. Reason i say you can't lack juice or coils is because everytime you get that smoke rage vape through it gotta stick to it if you want it to work (plus having the right mindset does help immensely). Of course if you start doing this and keep telling yourself that it won't work you're bound to have a very hard time. Be positive vape through your withdrawls and you'll be fine, though nic level wise that's always subjective some use 0mg and slowly stop using cigs others like me buy juice with nic and vape instead. There's no right or wrong way to do it there's just your way which is always the right way imho.

 

[Adamwoods]

Congrats on coming up on 2 years smoke free. All the research I've done seems nicotine the least harmful substance in cigarette smoke though addictive for sure. But addictive much the same as caffeine is addicting and about "as harmful". Which is to say nicotine in moderation isn't really very harmful if harmful at all.

Even though a 48 year 1.5 PAD smoker I started much lower 6mg nic because started with a Smok Stick V8 sub-ohm kit. 5 days in went to 4.5mg, another 5 days went to 3mg and staying there for now. Maybe someday I'll go 0mg nic but not worried about it in the least at the moment.

Hi Mike. Thank you.
It's not so much it being harmful, it's more to do with the control it has over me. I feel healthier since quitting but the first thing i do in the morning is vape, the craving is strong. It'd be nice jumping straight in the shower but no, i got to vape for a good 5 mins first.

Thanks
Adam

 

[Mike McVape]

Hi Mike. Thank you.
It's not so much it being harmful, it's more to do with the control it has over me. I feel healthier since quitting but the first thing i do in the morning is vape, the craving is strong. It'd be nice jumping straight in the shower but no, i got to vape for a good 5 mins first.

Thanks
Adam

I hear ya! Nothing wrong with wanting to be more free from any addictions!

 

[go_player]

It's not so much it being harmful, it's more to do with the control it has over me. I feel healthier since quitting but the first thing i do in the morning is vape

Fair enough. But, and I think this is important, how harmful is what you are dependent on now compared to what you were dependent on before? I understand wanting to not be dependent at all, but if you have to choose between dependence on vaping and dependence on cigarettes, well, I watched the person I loved most die of lung cancer (it was not very pretty.)

It seems to me that dependence is a side-issue here. If you remain dependent on vaping for the rest of your life, but you also avoid the painful and premature deaths associated with smoking, I'm inclined to call that a big win.

But if you really don't want to be dependent at all, and you taper off until you no longer vape or smoke, that's a win too. It turns out that, for me, that's hard to do on a permanent basis. In the long run I'll either vape or smoke. YMMV.

 

[Adamwoods]

Fair enough. But, and I think this is important, how harmful is what you are dependent on now compared to what you were dependent on before? I understand wanting to not be dependent at all, but if you have to choose between dependence on vaping and dependence on cigarettes, well, I watched the person I loved most die of lung cancer (it was not very pretty.)

It seems to me that dependence is a side-issue here. If you remain dependent on vaping for the rest of your life, but you also avoid the painful and premature deaths associated with smoking, I'm inclined to call that a big win.

But if you really don't want to be dependent at all, and you taper off until you no longer vape or smoke, that's a win too. It turns out that, for me, that's hard to do on a permanent basis. In the long run I'll either vape or smoke. YMMV.

Hi Go player.
I'm very sorry to hear you lost a loved one to lung cancer, my condolences to you. This is the reason i quit, i want to be with my kids as long as i possibly can.

There is no comparison, smoking is harmful, period. And should all ecigs fall of the face of the planet tomorrow, there is no way in hell i'm picking up a cigarette again. But i do see where you are coming from. Dependence is my issue, as i'm sure it is with most, if not all smokers. I enjoy vaping immensely but i'd also like the choice.

What i'll do is wean myself off bit by bit, should the cravens get to strong then i'll go back up to a stronger nic strength. I do agree that vaping is 99.99% safer than their counter parts.

Good luck to you!

Adam

 

[Mike McVape]

Fair enough. But, and I think this is important, how harmful is what you are dependent on now compared to what you were dependent on before? I understand wanting to not be dependent at all, but if you have to choose between dependence on vaping and dependence on cigarettes, well, I watched the person I loved most die of lung cancer (it was not very pretty.)

It seems to me that dependence is a side-issue here. If you remain dependent on vaping for the rest of your life, but you also avoid the painful and premature deaths associated with smoking, I'm inclined to call that a big win.

But if you really don't want to be dependent at all, and you taper off until you no longer vape or smoke, that's a win too. It turns out that, for me, that's hard to do on a permanent basis. In the long run I'll either vape or smoke. YMMV.

I agree 100% with what you are saying but also note Adam said he was looking to get down to zero nic NOT stop vaping. I believe the act of vaping itself a HUGE reason vaping is working for me from day one after 48 years smoking, as much or more so as keeping up with nicotine. If nicotine replacement the main issue gum and or patches would have worked in the past...NOT!

 

[go_player]

I agree 100% with what you are saying but also note Adam said he was looking to get down to zero nic NOT stop vaping. I believe the act of vaping itself a HUGE reason vaping is working for me from day one after 48 years smoking, as much or more so as keeping up with nicotine. If nicotine replacement the main issue gum and or patches would have worked in the past...NOT!

I tried the patch, right before I first vaped. As Mark Twain once remarked: "Quitting smoking is easy. I've done it a hundred times." For me, quitting with the patch was the same as quitting cold-turkey, something I had done more than once. The patch did nothing, and didn't even live up to the placebo effect I expected from it. I wanted desperately to stop smoking because I had just watched my mother die of lung cancer, fifteen years after she quit smoking. I suspect I'll die the same way (my grandmother did as well, so we seem prone to lung cancer,) but I'd rather not if I can avoid it.

I do not think the patch, or other nicotine replacement therapies, compare favorably with vaping. I tried them, and they did little for me. OTOH, when I first tried vaping (using this terrible disposable cig-alike that tasted like burning tires) I knew that there were at least alternatives to smoking that would work for me.

 

[Coastal Cowboy]

I started with 18mg and went up to 24 because 18 wasn't getting it done with the 2013 model eGo pen setups I had. Technology has progressed, and most of the time in 2017 I'm at 6mg with a few tanks still at either 9 or 12mg.

I DIY most of my stuff now and I'm pretty happy where I am.

If loss of throat hit worries you and you're considering DIY, you might want to give FlavourArt's Flash a try. It's a throat hit enhancer that some folks like.

Don't worry too much about nicotine storage--you don't have to freeze it in glass. Plastic bottles stored in a Cool Dark Place™ keep just fine for years. USP grade PG and VG contain no water and are amicrobial. I'm still using 38mg nic from a gallon jug I bought two years ago. Still vapes today like it did then.

 

[90VG]

You might be fine. I went zero for a while, but with all the health benefits of nicotine, I went back to 3mg/ml.

 

[BrotherBob]

Oh i don't like the sound of that, throat hit is important to me. I suppose i'll buy a small bottle online and try it out. I hope it works out, it would save a lot of money just vaping the pg/vg mix.

TH can be enhanced in zero nic mixes:
Know Your Enhancers
Replicating Throat Hit on 0mg Juices • r/DIY_eJuice
I'm at zero nic but without any TH and at max VG. I found it easy to ramp down over a 3 month period. I would mix maybe 3 bottles at 18,16, and 12 mg. and not label the strengths on the bottles, when these were near exhausted, do the same thing again at different strengths until bottles were 0,0,3 mg. You will be surprised how little you will miss nic and how much better your vapes will taste.

 

[SteveS45]

@Adamwoods I went from 18-24MG down to 6 soon after I stopped using Cig-A-Likes and got my first MOD and then went to the 3MG I am at now with some experimenting with 1.5 and Zero. I just felt that when vaping Zero MG why was I even vaping, so now back to 3MG. Remember even with Zero e-Liquids you can always add the nicotine and the amount you dilute the flavor is minimal in my opinion. I have found many Zero commercial e-Liquids taste better after I add the Nicotine.

 

[Completely Average]

Nicotine is highly overrated IMO.

I went from smoking a pack+ per day of Camel Filter and Camel 99s to vaping 3-5ml per day of 24mg per ml of nicotine juice, down to vaping 5-6ml per day of 0 nicotine juice now. I haven't vaped anything with nicotine in it for about 4 months now.

Last time I tried vaping juice with nicotine in it I ended up dumping the tank out and going back to 0 nic juice because I didn't like the way the nicotine made me feel. In a way it was sort of depressing because I still had over 100ml of juice with nicotine in it that I just tossed in the trash because of the nicotine.

I don't need it, I don't miss it, and last time I had it I didn't like it. After having smoked for 30+ years and vaping for 4 years now, I'm perfectly happy to be entirely nic free.

 

[QcVaper]

Nicotine is highly overrated IMO.

I went from smoking a pack+ per day of Camel Filter and Camel 99s to vaping 3-5ml per day of 24mg per ml of nicotine juice, down to vaping 5-6ml per day of 0 nicotine juice now. I haven't vaped anything with nicotine in it for about 4 months now.

Last time I tried vaping juice with nicotine in it I ended up dumping the tank out and going back to 0 nic juice because I didn't like the way the nicotine made me feel. In a way it was sort of depressing because I still had over 100ml of juice with nicotine in it that I just tossed in the trash because of the nicotine.

I don't need it, I don't miss it, and last time I had it I didn't like it. After having smoked for 30+ years and vaping for 4 years now, I'm perfectly happy to be entirely nic free.

No one stops the same way since no 2 person are the same you might think it's overrated since YOU don't need it i barely stopped like 2 months ago? Tried vaping some 0mg i had and didn't felt satisfying enough im vaping 6mg and will probably reduce to 3 for more flavor in my juices but i need my nicotine since i still get the occasional cravings.
I was a pack a day+ for 10 years myself. In other words, just because something worked for you dosen't mean it'll work for everyone. Imho vaping when you already quitted smoking is dumb. Vaping was created as a "safer" alternative not so you can look cool.