1st time user having problems

[canes52]

Hey guys just got the defender from vapornine. screwed on the pre filled cartomizer that came with it. heard that pop when pressing the button, got a nice hit. i opened up a new cartomizer put it about 15 drops let it sit for an hour or so went to press the button heard no pop but decided to take a drag...YUCK!!! tasted like burned cotton. i put some more drops in let it sit for a little, took another drag the burned taste mostly went away but i am not tasting any flavor (its pina colada). i still heard no pop by the way but did hear like a gurgling noise, so i blew into the mouthpiece end and wiped off the inside threads. can you guys please tell me what i am doing wrong? how many drops should i be putting? i am popping the rubber mouthpiece off, tilting it and pour the eliquid on the walls into the filler (like a beer). should i be hearing a pop? what am i doing wrong? i am scared to use my redbull liquid in another cartomizer because i dont want to mess this one up either. thanks in advance!

**upon further research i have found out that i had bad liquid, and the vendor has taken care of it for me, so in fact i was apprently doing it right to begin with. thanks so much for the help. you guys have a great community here at ECF!

 

[DC2]

I don't use cartomizers so I can't say for sure, but 15 drops is not very much, so it sounds like you're not putting enough juice in there.
Hopefully some cartomizer users will stop by and add some words of wisdom.

 

[Mathew R Taylor]

My advice; pick up an atomizer and drip tip. I started with carts, hated the burnt taste. Went to cartomizers, could never get it - either total juice in my mouth, or burning..... Then filled my own carts, and good, but recently switched to a drip tip, and I LOVE IT!!!

 

[Trish342]

Yes.. most cartos will take about 30 drops....you can spin them to get the juice to go into the filler faster and then add more juice. Hope this helps.

 

[AlmightyGod]

15 is probably too many. Blow on the threaded end & blow out the extra fluid. Sit the carto upside down on a table for a little while and then blow again. Take a paper towel and wipe everything clean. It takes awhile for cartos to saturate all the way. Really easy to overfill. I use 10 drops and let it sit. There is a learning curve to doing it. I got new juice today and overfilled two of the three new cartos myself. Once the extra fluid is out, it should work fine.

 

[fudd]

some cartos come bad from the factory, I suggest trying out the new e2 cartos, no burned cotton filler EVER!

 

[AlmightyGod]

Yes.. most cartos will take about 30 drops....you can spin them to get the juice to go into the filler faster and then add more juice. Hope this helps.

30 drops...must be a mega carto or small drops.

 

[canes52]

thanks so far for the help guys. 15 drops and 30 drops from two different people is a big variation. i also just noticed that the red bull liquid smells just like redbull, and the pina colada atually smells like a burnt plastic. im starting to think maybe the liquid is bad. im new to this whole thing so i am all over the place...

 

[JD1]

some cartos come bad from the factory, I suggest trying out the new e2 cartos, no burned cotton filler EVER!

The E2 R4 is the only carto I like. The fill meterial burns far to easy in all the others I've tried. I also like attys and carts. I do a modified straw mod that works well for me. My carts still hold about 12 drops and lasts much longer than dripping. I have one atty that I've removed the bridge for dripping and I like it the best, but I'm often just too lazy to drip constantly. lol

 

[canes52]

guys after noticing my redbull juice smells just like redbull i decided to put about 20 drops in a new cartomizer. guess what? taste amazing! i then put a drop of the pina colada on my finger and it smells DIGUSTING! is there such a thing as ''bad e liquid'' ? this pina colada smells nothing like pina colada, it smells like burnt material.

 

[JC Okie]

There's definitely a learning curve. Could very well be the juice, for sure. I use cartos a lot and I fill mine with about 20-22 drops the first time, then about 12 drops each fill thereafter. I like to hear the pop because that tells me it's really heating up and working well, but they don't all pop. And...as they get a little used (several refills) they don't pop anymore. What kind of cartos are they? I use BOGE 510s and I haven't found a bad one yet (have used many, many) and they really work well for me. Does the site you bought them from say anything about how many drops they will hold? Some do. Anyway....you may get twenty different answers in 20 posts. Good luck sifting through it all. lol. We're all just trying to help, and all of our experiences are a little different usually.

 

[AlmightyGod]

Look up steeping....could just need to breathe a little.

 

[NCC]

From the web site, the Defender uses KR808D-1 cartomizers. I don't recall how many 'drops' they take, I usually use the condom refill method.
Cartridges
Anyone? Drops for a KR808 carto?

 

[canes52]

There's definitely a learning curve. Could very well be the juice, for sure. I use cartos a lot and I fill mine with about 20-22 drops the first time, then about 12 drops each fill thereafter. I like to hear the pop because that tells me it's really heating up and working well, but they don't all pop. And...as they get a little used (several refills) they don't pop anymore. What kind of cartos are they? I use BOGE 510s and I haven't found a bad one yet (have used many, many) and they really work well for me. Does the site you bought them from say anything about how many drops they will hold? Some do. Anyway....you may get twenty different answers in 20 posts. Good luck sifting through it all. lol. We're all just trying to help, and all of our experiences are a little different usually.

as stated below, i believe they are kr808-d1 carts. i appreciate all the help by everyone, and as im noticing, there is a little learning curve involved. im sure with some time surfing around here i will be on my way to helping out people myself!

 

[Frank_Castle]

I understand that most cartos take just <1mL. That's just under 30 drops.

Good luck!

 

[samsmom]

I fill KR808D-1 cartos everyday. New ones take around 30 drops. A good way to fill is to fill an empty condom about 3/4 full. Take the mouthpiece cap off so you can see the filler. Slowly push the battery end down into the juice. Let off when you see it coming up to the top of the filler - keep pushing down slowly a little at a time until the entire filler is slushy on top. Put the cap back on, wipe off the outside, then I usually take a Q-Tip and wipe off the battery end good, then let them sit 30 minutes or so and they are ready to vape. You can also drop on top of the filler until it's saturated and starts to drop out of the battery end - blow it out into a paper towel, then wipe the battery threads and let it sit. I don't spin as this just takes more time and is not worth the little extra that I can get into a carto. I just sat for 2 hours tonight and refilled all of mine. I got behind! LOL

 

[canes52]

while i have this thread open, are there any specifc e liquids/companies you reccomend?

 

[samsmom]

There are so many out there and everyone has there own taste, but the most mentioned I have found on the forum are FSUSA, Backwood's Brew, VaporBomb, and TastyVapor. Mrs. T's Bakery has a lot of sweet vapes and Gourmet Vapor let's you create your own or purchase one's that someone else has created. I like FSUSA - check out their supplier thread for their reviews. Hope this helps!

 

[dormouse]

Sometimes you get a bad eliquid. More likely it needs to steep. Try leaving the bottle open overnight with the dropper tip also popped off. Keep it away from pets and kids and possible spillage. See if it's better the next day. Sometimes freshly mixed juices need to air and steep.

 

[B-Rad_The_Mad_Vapr]

on a new carto, you can drip 28-30 drops through the threaded end before it will start to drip out the opposing side. Then when vapor starts to reduce or burn flavor occurs you top off with 8-10 drops from mouthpiece side.