ok I got my first e-cig on tuesday and started using it that night. It is now thursday and it was working alright this morning. I've only been using the carts that came with it. (btw it's an envy bliss which nobody seems to know of but I think it's like a super or micro mini). I had it charging and just popped in a new cart and the tip is lighting but nothing is coming out. Could the atomizer really be dead already!? I barely used it only because I didn't want to run out of carts before I can order some liquid. I just emailed the company so hopefully they can do something. A week or 2 I could understand even, but 2 and a half days of using it once and awhile? That seems pretty bad to me.2.5 days. vapor production now 0!?!?
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ok I got my first e-cig on tuesday and started using it that night. It is now thursday and it was working alright this morning. I've only been using the carts that came with it. (btw it's an envy bliss which nobody seems to know of but I think it's like a super or micro mini). I had it charging and just popped in a new cart and the tip is lighting but nothing is coming out. Could the atomizer really be dead already!? I barely used it only because I didn't want to run out of carts before I can order some liquid. I just emailed the company so hopefully they can do something. A week or 2 I could understand even, but 2 and a half days of using it once and awhile? That seems pretty bad to me.
DO you have another atty? If yes, try switching it.
Id this an automatic battery(activate by drawing) or a manual (push button)?
If it is an auto battery, you may not be getting proper contact. There is a procedure to possibly fix this.
There would be a hole at the end of the batter where the atty screws on. Take a small paper clip and ever so slightly put it under the lip in the hole and pull up. Again---ever so slightly it takes almost no movement to get it back in contact.....be careful!!
Also, you should post what model it is, this can lead to additional help.
Id this an automatic battery(activate by drawing) or a manual (push button)?
If it is an auto battery, you may not be getting proper contact. There is a procedure to possibly fix this.
There would be a hole at the end of the batter where the atty screws on. Take a small paper clip and ever so slightly put it under the lip in the hole and pull up. Again---ever so slightly it takes almost no movement to get it back in contact.....be careful!!
Also, you should post what model it is, this can lead to additional help.
you say that you just popped a fresh cart on... try using a different cart. we've found that if the polyfill gets pushed down the liquid won't be drawn into the atomizer and you'll get a whole lot of nothing.
if a new cart works just fine, try popping the filler out of the cart and re-adjusting it so that it makes contact with the bridge.
or, alternatively, did you get a blank cart by mistake?
if a new cart works just fine, try popping the filler out of the cart and re-adjusting it so that it makes contact with the bridge.
or, alternatively, did you get a blank cart by mistake?
I don't really know the model. From what I can tell from the list I found on here it looks to be a DSE-084. It's an auto battery. I tried the paper clip thing... don't know if i actually moved anything or not, but it is still not working. I did get a teeny tiny little bit of vapor, but not even really noticeable. I can feel the atomizer getting warm, but nothing is coming out. I don't have another atomizer either unfortunately.
Hmmm interesting. I put in an old cart that I assumed was empty, but that produced SOME vapor. The new cart definitely has liquid in it I can see, but even when I pull up the fiber stuff it isn't doing anything.
Try adding 2 drops of juice directly on the atomizer, replace the cart and take a draw. If you don't get vapor, then either you have a bad atomizer or the battery is not supplying enough voltage. Can you try another battery?
I still think it's the cart... the atomizer isn't sucking the liquid out of the new cart for some reason. I would play with it a bit, do what Elendil said about dripping, and hopefully you'll get some action.
If you don't have extra liquid, try taking the polyfill out of an old cart and squeezing a drop out of it. You may still have some lingering.
If you don't have extra liquid, try taking the polyfill out of an old cart and squeezing a drop out of it. You may still have some lingering.
Alright I have one question that may help me with this. How far up should the polyfill be? Should it be TOUCHING the atomizer or just close to it??
It should touch it.
Too far away = burning taste (dry atty)
Smashed up too much against the atty and/or too much juice = liquid in mouth
ahh that definitely helps to know! I think that may be why I was tasting that nasty taste all this time!
I pulled the fiber out of the newest cart and shoved it in an old cart WITH the polyfill still in it (since I saw it still looked wet). I made sure it was sticking up this time and I got vapor! I guess it is ok to double up the polyfill?
I've never heard of anyone doing it, but I guess as long as it doesn't expand and overflow out of the cart it should be fine... try it out, see if it works for you. A lot of this is trial and error.
I haven't tried that. I have heard that people have had problems if the batting material is packed too tight, also causing wicking problems. But maybe I'm just sleep deprived but to me, I would think that doubling up the plastic-like fiber carts wouldn't hurt, whereas cotton may hurt wicking. The polyfil stuff would probably still wick fine if not better, you would just not be able to fill as much juice in it. But then again, watch for stray fibers because when they burn they can make an atty taste terrible for a long time. I may experiment with this when I get the time.
wow this one simple answer saved the day. I thank you so much. I just opened one of the first carts I used and I saw that it was really wet still so I put it in and pulled the fiber up a lot... and it tastes awesome and produced a really decent amount of vapor!! I think this whole time I wasn't experiencing it the way it's supposed to be!!!
The fill material should be actually touching the atty. Note that if you drew upon the ecig repeatedly when the cart was dry or the atty was not coming into contact with sufficiently wetted fill material, it is quite possible that you burned out the atty. This seems to be the most common cause of attys going bad from what I've been able to glean on this site. If after two draws you are getting nothing, and the battery is functioning, then STOP drawing, disassemble your ecig, and see what's what....
Wow, thank you for stumbling onto a possible solution that I have now tried for 20 minutes or so and it's working great so far. I took a new cart filling piece for an 801, cut the plastic end off, leaving about 2/3 of it still intact. Then I pushed that down into a used shrunken cart still in my 801 and topped it off.
Immediately I noticed that the draw was stiffer, I was unsure if this was good or bad until I puffed on it for a bit and realized that the vapor was great. It tasted drier, less of that aftertaste and more pure vapor, thus probably better burning inside the atty or less flooding. I continued to vape on that cart for 2-3 times longer than I have been getting out of 801 carts lately, until the battery went dead and I'm now on a new battery and still going strong. Also, the throat hit is noticably improved. I had noticed throat hit decreasing over the last 2-3 weeks, but I figured it was because I was getting used to the nic level I vape at. I was planning on stepping it up a few mg's but I may not have to now.
But the major improvement is they actually seem to be wicking now and I can't wait to test this further after I get some sleep. So thanks for the suggestion about doubling up cart material. I personally wouldn't double it up, cut out the plastic/rubbery tip and stuff what's left in and try that.
Immediately I noticed that the draw was stiffer, I was unsure if this was good or bad until I puffed on it for a bit and realized that the vapor was great. It tasted drier, less of that aftertaste and more pure vapor, thus probably better burning inside the atty or less flooding. I continued to vape on that cart for 2-3 times longer than I have been getting out of 801 carts lately, until the battery went dead and I'm now on a new battery and still going strong. Also, the throat hit is noticably improved. I had noticed throat hit decreasing over the last 2-3 weeks, but I figured it was because I was getting used to the nic level I vape at. I was planning on stepping it up a few mg's but I may not have to now.
But the major improvement is they actually seem to be wicking now and I can't wait to test this further after I get some sleep. So thanks for the suggestion about doubling up cart material. I personally wouldn't double it up, cut out the plastic/rubbery tip and stuff what's left in and try that.
One more thing I thought I'd share before getting some sleep is I've had pretty good luck with filling a cart or topping off, then when putting the mouthpiece into the atty, just barely put it in, then push it in further after several puffs. I push it in just past the point where it goes from drawing air and not activating the battery to where it finally kicks in a gives you vapor. Then after about 8 hits (on my 801, probably less for smaller kits), I push it in a little more, or until it's snugly all the way inside the atty.
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