Will a "2 cents for safety" fuse fit in a P+ 18650 with a AW IMR 2000MAH battery? Is it a good idea if it does?
2 cent for safety in P+ 18650?
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No, i believe it does not fit, just run a protected AW 2600mAh battery if you want a protection circuit, it has the protection circuit already attached and is one of the highest quality and best performing batteries i've ever tested (outperforms the AW 2900mAh and 3100mAh too).
In my load testing, the AW IMR 1600mAh outperforms the AW IMR 2000mAh and will work better with the LR coils. The 1600mAh holds higher voltage under load then the 2000mAh so i'd recommend it over the 2000mAh version. How thick is the 2 cent fuse, it may work with the IMR 1600mAh if you run one thin oring in the bottom of the chamber, don't know, i've never tried. Though you don't need a protection circuit with the IMR chemistry.
It's really easy to get sucked into total mAh, but what matters is useable mah under load and how much higher it holds voltage under load:
In this chart you can see how the 1600mAh holds up to two tenths higher voltage under load then the 2000mAh version:
And on the Protected, you can see how the 2600mAh holds up to 4 tenths higher voltage then the 2900 and 3100mAh:
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For using LR attys, does the AW IMR 1600 out perform the AW 2600? it seems they are really close. with the 2600 perhaps lasting a little longer.
I do like the IMRs on the PP16340
I do like the IMRs on the PP16340
I can confirm that in the case of Holocron Labs' ShortStop, it will not fit in a P+ 18650 with one thin o-ring and a 1600 mAh AW IMR. The top will thread on but there's 1-2 mm gap left. I don't know the dimensions of a ShortStop compared to a 2 Cents Vapesafe, though.
For over half it's life, the IMR will hold higher voltage the the 2600mAh, both are great and have their pro's and cons:
I agree, the graphs really help...
basically it comes down to a nicer vape or longer lasting
Seeing how my 18650 is used mostly at home, I dont mind swapping out batteries a little more frequently. I just dont like using a huge PV while at work. the smaller mods are much less noticeable.
I have been quite surprised how nicely the P+10 vapes though, batts dont last as long but they are so small that it isnt a big deal to toss a few in my bag.
basically it comes down to a nicer vape or longer lasting
Seeing how my 18650 is used mostly at home, I dont mind swapping out batteries a little more frequently. I just dont like using a huge PV while at work. the smaller mods are much less noticeable.I have been quite surprised how nicely the P+10 vapes though, batts dont last as long but they are so small that it isnt a big deal to toss a few in my bag.
I love the last graph, because it's the first time a graph totally agrees with my subjective experience
un-kicked, I'm using the red IMRs and my experience pretty much exactly fits that graphic: stronger vape at the outset, about the same towards the middle, at which point I just switch batteries. For me the magic formula amounts to - every time I vape through 2, 3mL tanks, its time to change the battery on an 18650.
Prior to this I always reads how the black 2600 mAh ICR was better than everything else... it is.. except for the red IMR.
un-kicked, I'm using the red IMRs and my experience pretty much exactly fits that graphic: stronger vape at the outset, about the same towards the middle, at which point I just switch batteries. For me the magic formula amounts to - every time I vape through 2, 3mL tanks, its time to change the battery on an 18650.
Prior to this I always reads how the black 2600 mAh ICR was better than everything else... it is.. except for the red IMR.
Love to see that same chart with the Panasonic CGR18650CH on it David, possible ?
No problem, This is quoted from my battery thread:
Panasonic IMR 18650 2250mAh batteries are in stock!
Refresh the page if they don't show in stock: Super T Manufacturing, Innovative manufacturer of electronic cigarette products.
I load tested the Panasonic IMR 18650 2250mAh against the AW IMR 18650 1600mAh and the winner is? It's a toss up.
At first glance, you may be impressed by the much larger mAh of the Panasonic, but keep in mind, all that extra mAh comes after the battery is discharged below 3.5 Volts, up until that point, the AW IMR holds a higher voltage under load and achieves more mAh.
My recommendations:
-If you run Non variable voltage mods such as the SB, GG, Super T etc, the AW IMR 18650 is probably the better choice. Assuming you change your batteries out at 3.5 volts by which time your vapor is getting weak, the AW IMR 18650 1600mAh holds higher voltage under load up until that point and achieves 1125 mAh at 3.5V whereas the Panasonic achieves 1011mAh @ 3.5V.
-If you run Variable Voltage/Wattage mods, the Panasonic then becomes the better choice as VV mods will continue to boost down to 3.0-3.3 Volts, where the extra mAh of the Panasonic can come into play.
David,
If you don't mind me digging thru an almost zombie thread, just found out today that if you leave one single thinner o-ring and take all the washers out from connection post, you will be able to fit a 2cent Vapesafe, or a Shortstop on a AW IMR 18650 2000mah without a single thread showing. Not even that much pressure is needed on the top cap to fit this setup.
Worked (for me) like a charm.
Again, sorry for digging the grave
If you don't mind me digging thru an almost zombie thread, just found out today that if you leave one single thinner o-ring and take all the washers out from connection post, you will be able to fit a 2cent Vapesafe, or a Shortstop on a AW IMR 18650 2000mah without a single thread showing. Not even that much pressure is needed on the top cap to fit this setup.
Worked (for me) like a charm.
Again, sorry for digging the grave
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David,
If you don't mind me digging thru an almost zombie thread, just found out today that if you leave one single thinner o-ring and take all the washers out from connection post, you will be able to fit a 2cent Vapesafe, or a Shortstop on a AW IMR 18650 2000mah without a single thread showing. Not even that much pressure is needed on the top cap to fit this setup.
Worked (for me) like a charm.
Again, sorry for digging the grave
Thanks for taking the time to test one out! I imagine then, the AW IMR 1600mAh and the Panasonic 2250 FLAT top would also fit as they are similar in length. Good information to know!
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