2 piece in Canada?

[illandreth]

Does anyone know of a supplier in Canada that has 2 piece vaporisers? The only 2 piece I know the name of is the kr-808 but I haven't seen any on the Canadian sites I know. Planning to buy one most likely next week and would rather purchase in Canada rather than from the U.S.

 

[props76]

I don't think there is a Canadian vendor of those.

If you order one, you need to remember you will have to order all your cart-o-mizers from another country too. Other than continually buying new carts, I don't believe filling them will work as well as with a 510, 801, 901, M401, as many reviews on youtube have stated.

Its going to be expensive and a real pain to order the carts and cross your fingers they make it across the boarder each time. Its probably for a good reason no vendors carry them here.

 

[smokum]

I have to agree...... it IS a pain having to rely on cross border solely when it come to your "only" device. Especially during these "shoot and miss" times with customs.

Why are you interested in having the 2-piece ??

Also, where are you located ?

VapeOn,
Greg

 

[illandreth]

I live in Alberta. The reason I want a 2piece is because I don't like filling carts. Ever since I finished off the carts I got with my 901 and started filling with juice it just has not worked for me as well as the prefilled carts did. Since I had problems with the supplier I got my 901 from (Canadian supplier) I will not order from there again and that is the only place I have seen the prefilled 901 carts in assorted flavors other than tobacco and menthol. I had almost quit analogs using the pre-filled and now that I'm using juice, of which I have tried a few different types, I rarely vape and mostly just back to analogs.

I then ordered a 510 from Happy Vaper and the customer service was GREAT. I got 1 auto and 1 manual battery and thought I'd try it to see if it was just a situation with the 901 that I couldn't get juice to work for me as well as prefilled but still no joy. The only pre-filled I have seen for the 510 in Canada are the 0 nic which I don't even want to try as the whole reason I want to use a PV is to still get the nic without the junk you get from the smoke.

I feel that just changing out a cart would be a lot easier for me than filling carts on the go. I feel like a druggie carrying my bag of spare atomisers, batteries and juice around in my backpack I also like the idea of having a fresh atomiser each time and not having to worry about the atty flooding from filling the cart too much, or burning out for whatever reason and having to send away for a replacement.

If I manage to get completely off analogs and onto PV only, I will still have my 901 and 510 to fall back and the juice to fill them if I have problems getting the cartomisers through the border. I WOULD however prefer not to have to worry about the border if a Canadian supplier started selling the 2 piece such as the kr-808. Canadian suppliers currently get their 901s and 510s from China I believe as well as the ones who sell nic juice. I don't see why the Canadian suppliers would have any more trouble getting the 2 piece as opposed to the current 3 piece for sale here.

Yeah...I know....long post but I have thought about this a lot and would really love to find a way for PV to work for me and get off these dratted analogs.

 

[props76]

Canadian vendors can get the KD808. But the problem is the same as with any prefilled carts. They are expensive and you need to keep a lot in stock. For example if you as my customer like bubble gum 12 mg, the supplier would have to stock a few hundred dollars in those carts to supply just you. Then when you decide you don't like them anymore, he has to have another few hundred in stock and is stuck with the bubble gum no one wants. Honestly, the Canadian vendors are guys working part time from their basements without the resources to stock.

If its what you really really really want, I think you are stuck ording from the US. I know one popular vendor down there sells a 10 pack for 12 bucks. Exchange and shipping, and to me that sound like double the price of analogs. Again remeber the claims that one cart is equal to 1000 cartons of cigs or whatever BS they claim, is just that bs.

If I were you, I'd work on refilling your carts for teh 510/901. Fill them at home and get some sort of case to carry them. You can buy blank carts. So if you have to fill an hard cig case with 20 carts you filled to make it through the day, why not? You are going to have the same problem with the KD8008, at BEST I beleive you would be able to reduce the number of carts you carry in 1/2, but so what?

 

[illandreth]

The pre-filled 901 I had previously claimed that 1 cart = 1 pack (based on US so 20 cigs). I agree it was not quite that much, a cart would last me most of the day, I would say about the same as 10-15 cigs. So a pack of 10 carts for 12 bucks is MUCH cheaper than a pack of analogs. I pay $10 for a pack of 25 analogs....10 carts at about half a pack per cart is the same as 5 packs of analogs which is $50.

Keep in mind the above is based on 901 carts which are a lot smaller than 808 carts and based on 18mg carts which is a lot less nic than I get from my brand of analogs. On the package they are listed as 1.1 to 2.4 mg per analog (Peter Jackson Menthol).

I originaly thought the reason I couldn't get completely off analogs with the 901 prefilled carts was because they were 18mg, when I bought juice I bought 26mg but that is working even less for me than the pre-filled.

At this point I'm getting to my wits end. I WANT to replace analogs with PV but since I ran out of the pre-filled I've just been spinning my gears trying one thing after another spending a bunch of money on things that aren't working while STILL spending the same amount on analogs.

 

[bornagainst]

There are a couple of vendors who DO ship to Canada from the US for two piece.

I've had experience with both of them, and they were fine in regards to service and value for money.

The one drawback is the higher price of shipping.

Vapor4Life (who I use) charges 25 dollars flat for shipping. Steve ships Priority, and the postage when it arrives a few days later at my door is that it cost him between 20-22 dollars.

That said, Steve throws in a bunch of extras (carts/juices/batteries) which more than make up for it.

I've also used NHALER, who sells the same model of ecig. The main drawback is the lack of cartomizer flavors. Steve at V4L can't be beat for that.

Anyhow, feel free to PM me if you have questions.

 

[props76]

At this point I'm getting to my wits end. I WANT to replace analogs with PV but since I ran out of the pre-filled I've just been spinning my gears trying one thing after another spending a bunch of money on things that aren't working while STILL spending the same amount on analogs.

That you can't get off analogs with the PV, I beleive is due to the carts. Using carts in the 801 and I assume 901 alone, are about next to useless. I know I wouldn't stop smokeing if thats all I had. I have 50 prefilled in my fridge I have next to no use for.

What works for me with my 801, and I was a carton/week strong indian cig smoker, for 20 years, was dripping and using a cart. 3 drips on the atty and 2 in the cart would get me to work (10 min dirve) and also work for a smoke break at work. You don't even have to worry about finding fresh prefilled, just refill and drip with your old ones.

I know you said you didn't like the idea of carrying a bottle, but to me its not that bad. I load up my PV at my desk before smoke break. The 30 ml bottle fits in my pocket. Not that big of a deal to me. You could also get a 3 ml bottle, which is about the size of a cig filter.. I strongly suggest giving that a try. I know you don't like it, but if dripping gets you off analogs, as I'm betting it will, isn't it worth it?

For another idea make your own prefilled drippers.. Buy say 5 new attys. Before you go anywhere, 3 drops in each, 2 drops in the cart. Now .just take your 5 prefilled attys and a batt with you... Saves dripping out in public, since you are worried about the impression that gives.

If you are going with the KD808 I wish you luck. The carts have to be way better than 901 prefilled.

Happy vaping

 

[smokum]

illandreth,


Maybe you should try getting hold of Jack at Happy, and try one of the 306a atomizers (if he still has any) that can be used on the 510 and attempt "dipping" to see if its just cart use and/or possibly your cart wadding your having an issue with.

You could also try calling Jack, as he loves to attempt assisting newbs and those having trouble to guide them along with the latest suggestions and such. He's really very helpful and friendly to talk with.

I was hoping you were the Ottawa area or in Ontario at least, lol !!

I have a two piece new in the box and an assortment of different cart flavours and strength that I was originally going to go into business with when HC's bullcookies shut that idea down. I had attempted to sell them in the classifieds to clear them out, but nobody showed an interest.

So..................

Although these are the Smoke-51 product (or LTv9 model), that are not that reliable overall in comparison to what is available out there now.... as a friendly gesture to another Canadian vaper I'd be willing to send you a kit and a box of carts for the cost of shipping so that you can at least try that "type" of two piece ecig and see if you REALLY prefer the inconsistency that they may experience over a manual device that you'll need to essentially get into DIY'ing a bit to find your satisfaction sweet spot (honestly, I think you'll need to end up doing that anyways with cartomizers to achieve whats missing in an ecig "for YOU").

Just so your aware....... I still smoke analogs !

BUT, I'm under a pack a day now from near 3 packs a day for a looooong time. I've used the smoke-51, M401, 510 auto & manual, and have recently purchased and only received this week the Protege mod (that uses the 801 atomizer, and the GLV 5volt 510 & 801 mod. I've also been DIY'ing.

So for ME, its a struggle to completely change over and hope to with the high voltage mod.

But you know what ?? Big deal !!..... I'm still saving money overall, feel a lot better than I used too, and don't get down on myself because really, I've had a GREAT harm reduction experience so far even if by a little its very much an achievement with every analog I've avoided.

If your set on going the two piece design, make contact with me through pm and we'll make arrangements for shipping and I'd be fine with helping you by you not blowing a wad on something you very may well not like for nothing but a shipping charge.

**** To anyone else reading this, don't bother contacting me about them for free. The OP didn't ask !! And its myself offering because "I WANT TO" !!

VapeOn,
Greg

 

[bg458]

Greg you are the man wish HC would take a ****. Back to the topic I don't know if it has been resolved yet but there was a problem with the two piece e-cig were the atomizer was burning the filler. You should just buy prefilled carts if you do not like filling. With nomally atomizer you get a dud once in a while I think you greatly increase that chance with disposible ones IMO.8-o

 

[smokum]

Thanks bg, and you are right on both your other points !

The problem with most cartomizers that were buring was due to them not being filled properly at the factory (there was a long rash of them with the 51), the ones I will send were fresh stock, in blister packs, and as with all my e-cigs toys & supplies, they are stored in an ammo trunk in the cold storage.


-Greg

 

[Overlord]

I'm in the same boat. In western canada and my wife LOVES the idea of a 2 piece ecig.

I've ordered her the KR808 from eastmall. This should suite her fine though as she was a very light smoker to start with. About 10-15 ultra light analogs a day so we're guessing that 1, maybe 2 carts would last her all day.

From what i've read, I might be able to get away with using 1 cartomizer per week with refilling before it goes bunk. Keeping that thought going, 10 cartomizers should last her a while.

But then again, this is all just speculation until the unit actually arrives and she gets to try it.

I'd also hope that some canadian supplier would broaden their stock with other models, but to be honest, what we have in canada are considered the best and most reliable models out there to date which is all we really need.

Sometimes I think we've gotten away from our initial hope of ecigs. And that was to help me quite analogs and find a healthier alternative. This is what both my wife and I have done with my 510 and her 401. Going on month 4 right now analog free but I really don't want this to turn into a hobby as smoking never was. I think if you find a device that works, stick with it as it did its job.

Although if someone wants to send me a Protege, i'd accept it

 

[illandreth]

Bornagainst: Vapor4life and Nhaler are the 2 I have been looking at and still deciding wether or not to order. Thanks for the info that they are both good to work with.

Props76:

That you can't get off analogs with the PV, I beleive is due to the carts. Using carts in the 801 and I assume 901 alone, are about next to useless. I know I wouldn't stop smokeing if thats all I had. I have 50 prefilled in my fridge I have next to no use for.

On the contrary, it is due to REFILLING the carts I believe is the reason I haven't been able to get off analogs. With the pre-filled I ordered along with my 901 when I first started vaping I was ALMOST completely off analogs until they ran out and I started refilling with juice. While on the subject of pre-filled carts there are a couple things I see said here all the time which confuse me.

First, I'm always reading about how pre-filled carts don't last long enough and run out so fast. The pre-filled I had for my 901 would last almost the entire day. Refilling however I need to top it off every time I want to vape. To understand this better I should explain I do not constantly vape, instead of having a full analog every 45-60 min I would take 3 to 5 puffs off the 901 every 20 to 30 min. With the prefilled this was working for me. The only time I was still having an analog is when I first woke up in the morning and after meals.

Second, I frequently read people saying how awful the pre-filled taste. I know taste is subjective and is different for everyone but the pre-filled I got were much more flavorful than the juices I got. The actual taste of the juices I have tried are ok, they just seem to be a very weak taste. The prefilled I had on the otherhand had very strong flavor to them. The chocolate and the strawberry especialy were very good. I have not tried DIY yet but have some flavorless and some flavoring and will be trying some in the next couple of days. I'm hoping the flavor issue will be fixed by just adding more flavoring. In terms of throat hit I found the pre-filled to be fine, with the juices I've tried....both VG and PG I find the throat hit to be overwhelming. I take 1 or 2 puffs and cough like crazy.

Smokunchevy:Jack from Happy Vapor has been in touch with me via e-mail based on this forum thread. As I said in an earlier post I am EXTREMELY happy with his customer service and he is very willing to help and discuss the issue. I have no problem whatsoever with the 510 I bought from him. It works pretty much the same for me as the 901 I had previously but now I've got the added bonus of a PCC which is why I wanted to try a 510. The similarity of problem for me between the 901 and the 510 is what has convinced me that refilling is my problem which is why I'm looking for a 2 piece or failing that someplace to order prefilled carts. I will be e-mailing him back most likely early next week as I'm sure he would like to enjoy his weekend

As for you sending me a 2 piece I am excessively grateful and will be sending you a PM after I finish the incredibly long post heh. I've never heard of the LTv9 model but I'm sure it will work perfectly fine to show me if a 2 piece is the way to go. When I first looked into PVs about a year ago a 2 piece is what I was going to order but I let myself be swayed by various posts on a different forum page and ordered the 901 instead. That was before I found this excellent forum.

Thanks everyone for the comments and suggestions, they are greatly appreciated. I REALLY want this to work out for me to get off analogs. For the 3 weeks or so before I ran out of pre-filled I was very happy with vaping although wanted a bit stronger than the 18mg which was the highest carts the supplier sold. As said above I was almost completely off analogs and given more time with more pre-filled I'm sure I would have gotten there soon. As with many other vapers, I was feeling much healthier. My breathing was easier, I wasn't coughing up so much junk and I had a lot more energy probably due to more oxygen and less crap in my lungs. All those benefits unfortunately have now disappeared since I can't seem to get juice to work properly for me, most likely due to me not filling them the right way or something like that.

For those of you who have read this entire epic length post.......you must be as crazy as I am for typing it all.

 

[props76]

First, I'm always reading about how pre-filled carts don't last long enough and run out so fast. The pre-filled I had for my 901 would last almost the entire day. Refilling however I need to top it off every time I want to vape. To understand this better I should explain I do not constantly vape, instead of having a full analog every 45-60 min I would take 3 to 5 puffs off the 901 every 20 to 30 min. With the prefilled this was working for me. The only time I was still having an analog is when I first woke up in the morning and after meals.

Hey illandreth,

I don't mean to be beating a dead horse here. I really get where you are coming from. You want something that is simple and easy, and gets the job done. I understand. I wish you the best of luck with the cart-o-mizer.

On the off chance that it doesn't work for you, I hope you don't give up. The cart issue you describe above are covered in the mods section. The reason why you can't refill the cart the same as new, is fixed with the straw mod. It allows liquid to get to the bottom of the cart so they last longer. Yes yes I know you don't want to be bothered with cutting a straw, playing with filling ect ect you want plug and play.

I just say this so you know there is a way no matter what, cart-o-mizers or whatever, this is what will get you off the cigs.

Good luck, and happy vaping.

 

[bornagainst]

Also, if you are interested, I have an extra battery and a spare USB charger for the Kr808 model if you want. Along with a couple of V4L cartomizers. See how you like it, anyhow.

As long as you want to stay off analogs, thats whats most important.

 

[illandreth]

Hey illandreth,

I don't mean to be beating a dead horse here. I really get where you are coming from. You want something that is simple and easy, and gets the job done. I understand. I wish you the best of luck with the cart-o-mizer.

On the off chance that it doesn't work for you, I hope you don't give up. The cart issue you describe above are covered in the mods section. The reason why you can't refill the cart the same as new, is fixed with the straw mod. It allows liquid to get to the bottom of the cart so they last longer. Yes yes I know you don't want to be bothered with cutting a straw, playing with filling ect ect you want plug and play.

I just say this so you know there is a way no matter what, cart-o-mizers or whatever, this is what will get you off the cigs.

Good luck, and happy vaping.

Sure I'd like something simple and easy but that is not my main concern. For some reason I cannot figure out using juice just does not work for me. I haven't tried the straw mad you mention, but I have however tried filling the cart with a syringe. This in essence does what the straw mod does of getting more juice into the cart and all the way to the bottom rather than just in the top half of the filler. I've tried using quilt batting and making my own filler with no success, I've tried buying blank carts with no success. I also tried the PTB which seems to be the most popular and I'm not sure if it's my brain or my fingers that just can't make this work either.

I have no intention of giving up, I'm just trying to find a way to make it work for me because I KNOW the PV is what will finally get me off analogs. If all else fails then I'll find a supplier of the prefilled carts I got with my original 901 and take my chances with customs coming in from China.

The original point of this thread was just to find out if someone in Canada who I hadn't yet heard of sells the 2 piece rather than me ordering from out of country. Everyone here has been very helpful and unfortunately the thread seemed to turn more into me ranting and letting off my frustration of trying to figure out how to get vaping to work for me.

 

[props76]

I haven't tried the straw mad you mention, but I have however tried filling the cart with a syringe. This in essence does what the straw mod does of getting more juice into the cart and all the way to the bottom rather than just in the top half of the filler. I've tried using quilt batting and making my own filler with no success, I've tried buying blank carts with no success. I also tried the PTB which seems to be the most popular and I'm not sure if it's my brain or my fingers that just can't make this work either.

Wow...

Its strange what is happening to you, it seems to be the opposite of what almost everyone experiences. Most people are disappointed with the carts, you like them. Most people do the mods to get better performance, you get worse..

I'm starting to wonder about your equipment... I assume you are out of carts, and you maybe tried all these mods after your pre-filled carts were gone? If so, maybe your atty or batt has gone south right about the time you ran out of pre-filled?

Might be worth testing everything with a multimeter. If you don't have one, just buy a cheap one, about 15 bucks from any hardware store. Hold the positive lead in the center of the batt, and the negative lead on the thread and press the button.

The batts should be 3.2-3.7 volts. For the atty, holding one lead on the center and the other on the threads, your 901 should be 3.0-3.5 ish ohms, and your 510 should be 2.5-2.9. Give or take a few tenths on either doesn't matter, but if its way out you have an equipment issue.

 

[illandreth]

I always was the black sheep in any group

The atomisers and batteries are fine. I had some extras of the 901 batts and attys I ordered and the same problem with them for juice. I also just ordered a few weeks ago a 510 and have the same problem. This is NOT a harware issue, this is a prefill vs refill issue. I don't know if it's the flavor concentration or the nic concentration or if I'm just absolutely crappy at filling a cart in every way I try, but it is definately not a batty or atty issue.

In terms of being out of prefilled carts, I have been out of them for about 4 or 5 months and have been trying to get juice working for me since then. I will be trying some DIY tomorrow where I can control the flavor concentration and see if that will help. Over the next week or so I'll be trying different strengths and different PG/VG mixes to see if I can get anything to work. I've got PG flavorless at I think 26mg strength (not in front of me at the moment so trying to remember) as well as no nic PG and VG to cut it with and 6 different Lorann/Capella flavors to play with.

 

[firhill]

These guys were one of the earliest Canadian suppliers of the 808D-1 I came across (that was back in April/May).

Not sure what they have or don't offer now.

 

[Overlord]

They seem to have the ECV92110 Electronic Cigarette with Disposable Atomizer Cartridge 110mm.

Looks identical to the KR808, not sure if it is the same model though.

EDIT: According to this post, it is the same model. And pretty damn good prices on packs of cartomizers I must say.

Bout $9 for a pack of 5 isn't bad at all. Almost the same as the ones from china