$20 backup plan? Rivas, eGo's, kGo's, oh my...

[Shiryo]

I'm looking to spend ~$20 for a eGo style battery as a last resort backup. I'll be purchasing a Provari Mini fairly soon. In the meantime a friend of mine has let me borrow his charger and 650mAh eGo battery.

Honestly, I have no idea what brand it is, there's no branding whatsoever, the only tip I have is that the button is fairly flush, I heard Joye's are synonymous for this. There is one thing I do know... The battery has been VERY reliable and gets me through nearly the whole day of constant vaping... with a 1.7ohm SmokTech DCT!

With that said, I would love to have one of these as a back up, dripping to test new flavors or to let a friend borrow.

I've found quite a few leads, from Liberty-Flights, madvapes, Atomic Vapors, VaporGalaxy and a few others.

All I really need is a charging cable and a battery. I'm looking for a 900-1000mAh battery. I'm not sure if I want a Passthrough or not, it sounds neat, but i'm confused on if a laptop can power it or not, plus I hear a lot of issues with them. My AC USB wall adapter is a Motorola cell phone adapter outputting 5.1v @ 850mA.

I don't understand what's better in the eGo world, there's I swear 6 different brands and over 10 models... Liberty-Flights has the Riva Charging cable for only $5 but I heard they are prone to fail and I don't know if my AC-USB adapter is too weak or strong. The Riva batteries are fairly cheap at $12 and I heard they're better than Joye eGo's? I don't understand the whole eGo v eGo-C v eGo-T and why one is more expensive than the other or why one is better than the other.

Help me out please? Post links, coupon codes or what have you.

Too long didn't read, where's the cliff notes pal...
- Spend no more than $25 shipped
- Looking for a single 900-1000mAh battery
- Need charging cable, possibly AC-USB adapter
- Don't really think I need LCD or VV for this as it's just a backup of sorts, but if the price is right...
- Will be used with IKV io6 XLR 1.5ohm atomizer to drip test new liquids

 

[chaos-7]

I think a K Go battery and a charger would work great for You.

 

[Shiryo]

Any leads on that? I haven't slept for 2 days and can't remember anyone selling the kgo except for virginvapor... WHich the prices aren't bad, but I like to have options.

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[chaos-7]

SLB KGO Starter Kit
I hope this helps! The Hoosier site wont come up for Me.

 

[Kent C]

Here's what I know from experience and from what I've read on the under load metering of Rivas and eGos.

Rivas are the best eGo clone - even better than some non-Joye batts that are labelled 'eGo'. The early versions of them ran under load, the same as early Joye eGos (before the eGo-t and eGo-c)= 3.2-3.4volts. The have gold bands at the button. The later versions of Rivas - starting with the Special Edition (SE Riva) ran at a true 3.7v under load. The SE's have a silver band instead of the earlier gold band. I have both types and you can tell the difference in voltage in vaping the same flavor.

The SE Rivas run hotter and can wash out some flavors, and enhance stronger flavors. As I understand, all new Rivas are the SE type running at 3.7v underload but I'm not certain of that as I only have the earlier gold band and the new SE Rivas from Liberty Flights. Rivas have a soft rubber button with a blue led. Some say they like the Riva button better. The earliest Janty eGos had a 'stuck' button issue that was fixed after the first batch release - it is no longer a problem.

Electronic Cigarette - Batteries - Riva 510

If you buy there make sure to hit the 20% off in the top left corner of the page at the top. And of course you'll need a charger.

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For Joye eGo's there are several models. The earliest models and anything without a 't' or a 'c' on the battery, run at 3.2-3.4v underload and have silver bands with a white led button that is plastic and 'concave' - it works well.

The eGo-t battery is so marked on the battery. It and the eGo-c have been tested to run 3.5-3.6v under load by some here. Joye says that it runs constant 3.3v. It is considered 'regulated'. But I find that the eGo-t's and c's run a bit hotter than the earlier versions just from how the ejuices I use respond. I've been vaping the same ejuices for almost two years now. I know them well. The eGo-t tends to wash out some flavors and even burn the ejuice but this is likely more from the atty than the battery. The eGo-c doesn't washout flavor like the eGo-t can using the newer modular tank atty system. And the consensus (with some exceptions) tend to validate this. However, if you're not using the eGo tank system, the eGo-t and eGo-c batts should perform equally for any other atty or carto. However....

The difference in the eGo-t batt and the eGo-c batt is mainly in upgraded charge protection.

There is a new 'eGo-c "upgrade"' battery that has all the new protection of the eGo-c but with a new 'mode' where the regulated aspect of the c is turned off and you can run the battery at the full voltage from @ 4.2v off the charger and then the regular curve to 3.x to where you need to recharge - basically the new mode is how the SE Rivas work. It is not a true variable volt eGo because the voltage can't be 'dialed' in, but because the regulated eGo runs at 3.3v according to Joye, this is a 'variable volt' mode - meaning only that it goes through the regular voltage curve of a 3.7v battery.

I have both the eGo-c and the eGo-c upgrade batts. It will be what I replace all of my other eGo and Riva batteries with because of the extra charge protection. One ecf member has tried and failed to blow up an eGo-c with the added protection.

Starting with the eGo-t - all eGo batts have had the 5 click shutoff - which is nice for pocket carry. The eGo-c added a changing led button from white at full charge to green to blue to dark blue as the charge is used. At 'dark blue' you have very little time left on the batt. I like this feature when heading out, if the leds are still white, I'm good.

There is the new eGo 'Twist' coming out, which is a truly variable voltage batt - you dial it in. While interesting, it isn't what you're looking for the intended use.

There are eGo, eGo-t, eGo-c and eGo-c upgrade passthroughs. The eGo-c and eGo-c upgrade PT's have the added charge protection. One thing about the PT - which at cignot is $19 for the 650mAh and $21 for the 1000mAh, you wouldn't need the $6-8 charger. And using the passthrough, unless you have intention of taking it off line, there would be no reason to opt for the 1000mAh, which is quite a bit larger than the 650mAh PT. If you're just going to be testing flavors at home, then the 650mAh eGo-c upgrade PT is what I'd recommend. It has the protection - still a smaller batt size and as a PT it will stay in the vv mode at around 4.0-4.2 volts as long as it's plugged in. IF you want to test flavors at @3.3v, then put it in the other 'constant' mode. And it's under $20

https://www.cignot.com/product_p/egc-upt-all.htm

1000mAh PT:

https://www.cignot.com/product_p/egc-upt-all.htm

1000mAh battery:

https://www.cignot.com/product_p/egc-ub1-all.htm

With the last you'll need a charger:

https://www.cignot.com/product_p/ego-usb-chg.htm

Your motorola plug will do just fine with the charger or the PT.

 

[Shiryo]

Bloody hell. Thanks! Tons of information. Good stuff. Always wondered what the differences were with the eGo branded batteries, it's nice to know that the C has the protection, i'll definitely go through with that. Looks to me that a 650mAh eGo-C PT is what i'm looking for.

I'm trying to factor in the rare case that I have to send the Provari Mini in for issues, will I want the pseudo-VV or will I be fine with 3.3v. I always thought the eGo's were 3.6v but before I posted this thread I verified that it was very close to 3.3v. Works pretty good with a LR DCT tank.

Thanks for all the info!

 

[Kent C]

Bloody hell. Thanks! Tons of information. Good stuff. Always wondered what the differences were with the eGo branded batteries, it's nice to know that the C has the protection, i'll definitely go through with that. Looks to me that a 650mAh eGo-C PT is what i'm looking for.

I'm trying to factor in the rare case that I have to send the Provari Mini in for issues, will I want the pseudo-VV or will I be fine with 3.3v. I always thought the eGo's were 3.6v but before I posted this thread I verified that it was very close to 3.3v. Works pretty good with a LR DCT tank.

Thanks for all the info!

I look for the eGo-c TWIST to compete with the available vv's. However, it may be a while before we see them other than samples. The TWIST is a vv from 3.2-4.8V and won't be available in a passthrough - so far anyway - because the end point is where the dial for the vv is. So you're still better off with the eGo-c upgrade PT, imo. It should hold the 4.0-4.2v as long as you're plugged in (for an alternative to your Provari mini).

 

[dragonbone]

Bloody hell. Thanks! Tons of information. Good stuff. Always wondered what the differences were with the eGo branded batteries, it's nice to know that the C has the protection, i'll definitely go through with that. Looks to me that a 650mAh eGo-C PT is what i'm looking for.

I'm trying to factor in the rare case that I have to send the Provari Mini in for issues, will I want the pseudo-VV or will I be fine with 3.3v. I always thought the eGo's were 3.6v but before I posted this thread I verified that it was very close to 3.3v. Works pretty good with a LR DCT tank.

Thanks for all the info!

IMHO, I think you should have two backups. Oh and don't forget that they come in diffrent sizes and also VV (the black one in the pic).

 

[Shiryo]

Yeah, i'm still up in the air about the vv eGo's... I doubt i'll ever use either of the eGos as long as I hold the Provari, but having a backup is good to have. 650mAh gets me through almost a whole day of heavy vaping, thats why I wanted the 900-1000mAh one. But I might just get the eGo-C Upgrade PT.

 

[dragonbone]

Yeah, i'm still up in the air about the vv eGo's... I doubt i'll ever use either of the eGos as long as I hold the Provari, but having a backup is good to have. 650mAh gets me through almost a whole day of heavy vaping, thats why I wanted the 900-1000mAh one. But I might just get the eGo-C Upgrade PT.

I get what you are saying. I thought so too when I got my Provari. However there are just some instances where vaping a huge honking PV - and an expensive one to boot - just isn't feasable IMO. Sometimes you just want to 'vape and not explain' and there are times where losing, dropping or being 'liberated' of your expensive mod may make one rather grab the eGo for worry free vaping. Well, that is my experience anyway.

 

[Shiryo]

Totally understand you there. The looks and feel of a Provari are really nice though... Can't wait to get my Mini Sunday, or that's what i'm planning on doing. Trying to not be impulsive, but when I walk into a vapor shop, I can't help myself.

 

[Brachinus]

I have a Kgo 1100 batt, I think it was less than $25, and while it's too big for my pocket, it makes a great backup. I charged it a few weeks (months?) ago, and just a couple days ago I put it in the charger to recharge, and it came up still green.

P.S. Pro tip: If you have large dual-coil (not mega size, but large-ish) cartos that come with silicone caps on them, those caps will fit over the connector on an eGo-style batt, if you shorten them with scissors or an Xacto knife. Keeps dirt from getting in the threads if you're putting it in your pocket or glovebox without anything screwed in to it.

 

[wizard10000]

P.S. Pro tip: If you have large dual-coil (not mega size, but large-ish) cartos that come with silicone caps on them, those caps will fit over the connector on an eGo-style batt, if you shorten them with scissors or an Xacto knife. Keeps dirt from getting in the threads if you're putting it in your pocket or glovebox without anything screwed in to it.

Pro tip 2.0: A cut-down carto condom will also fit over the end of a Luer lock syringe if you need a quick and dirty graduated cylinder for DIY.

 

[oldjoe]

Another vote for a KGO. Hoosier E-Cig has the kit for $42 + change. A single batter is $18. It's a top quality reliable site to do business with.

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[jonnyblatt]

check out cignot you won't be disappointed

 

[vid]

I would agree with getting a VV Ego C twist, mikeusa has them for 20$ and to have that as a testing batt or a backup would be a steal and it would be multi functional AND a variable voltage batt. Just my .02 cents

I can hear Charlie Sheen now... I got an Ego-C Twist......WINNING!!!!!

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