Warning: Using non-eGo cables could fry you Ego-V VV 650mah battery

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Thucydides

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The short version: If you have an eGo-V 650mah VV battery with passthrough, do not try to charge it using anything besides the included cable or mini-USB adapter, because other cables could fry the electronics of the battery.

The long version:

I bought an eGo-V 650mah VV battery with passthrough a couple of months back. It has a funky USB port, which is fine, since it comes with a mini-USB adapter as well as a cable from a standard USB port to the funky eGo-V USB port. As luck would have it, the cable began shorting out after about a month, and as time went on it became more and more difficult to find a way to twist it so that it would charge. The adapter worked fine, but it's bulky and makes passthrough vaping rather awkward.

So I did some research about the eGo-V. I could not find anything online about the actual battery port except that it was a Fuji type, though there are several Fuji type USB plugs. After spending hours looking at Amazon products that had enlargeable photos of Fuji-type USB plugs, I figured out that the funky eGo-V plug is the one called "USB Fuji Type IV." You can get them on Amazon for a few dollars, since they're frequently used to charge digital cameras. So I ordered one. Coincidentally, the day after I ordered one, the digital camera we got for our daughter's 16th birthday arrived, and it uses USB Fuji Type IV plug. It comes with a cable that looks identical to the one provided by eGo. I didn't bother to try charging with it, since the one I ordered from Amazon was in the mail and scheduled to arrive the next day.

Once the Amazon cable arrived, I used it to connect my eGo-V to my computer's USB port. I immediately got an error message saying that the USB port was shut down for drawing too much current. Tried this on USB 2 and USB 3 ports with the same results. Then I tried it on both 0.5amp and 1.0amp USB chargers that plug into the wall. No charge at all; did not even acknowledged that it was plugged in. Then I plugged it into a wall outlet that I changed out so that it has two 1.0amp USB output ports on it. Same thing: no charge.

At this point, I was wondering if I got a bum cable. So I went and borrowed the cable from my daughters camera, and plugged it into one of the USB chargers that plugs into the wall (I don't remember which). The battery immediately got warm, though it showed no sign of charging. I quickly unplugged it. It is now fried. The battery is dead, and nothing will charge it at all.

Anyway, the eGo-V only cost around $30, and I got a couple months' good use out of it. I enjoyed it while it lasted, and I used its demise as an excuse to buy an eVic, which I'm kind of excited about. All's well that ends well.

Even so, I wanted other people to have the opportunity to learn from my mistake. There's a paucity of information about the eGo-V 650mah port and cable; maybe I'm the first person who tried this -- or maybe I'm just the first person who doesn't feel terribly stupid having tried it. In any event, I'm posting it here for all to see: the cable that comes with the eGo-V 650mah battery is not likely to be the same cable as other cables with the same plug, and other plugs may fry your battery.

(Incidentally, the newer eGo-V "V2" that is 1200mah purports to use a "standard mini-B 5-pin USB port," and is likely not liable to the same problem.)
 
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That's highly unfortunate, sorry for your loss!


Thanks for sharing the info though. Seems like they chose an odd charging cable, I have a few passthrough eGos and they use a standard "mini-B" USB connector. Ihve got several of these in my chord drawer from other electronic devices and they work great with the passthroughs.

Are you sure it wasn't a bad battery in the first place, and it was just a coincidence that it happened to fail at the same time? Or perhaps the cable you bought was actually faulty, and it shorted out the battery, causing the damage?

I'm wondering about this because of the fact your computer says you were drawing too much current at first. This sounds to me like either something shorted out on the battery or in the cable, causing crazy high current draw. And either the battery was damaged beforehand and caused the short, or the cable was damaged and shorted the battery. This would also fit with the battery getting fried with the different cable, but without the high current warning on your computer.

I'm assuming the charge circuit is built into the ego-V, which means the high current draw would be the fault of the charge circuit, or a shorted battery and/or cable.

Unless the ego-V uses a modified Fuji Type IV plug, meaning that it looks exactly the same as a normal Fuji Type IV, but they have modified it for specific passthrough use.
 

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Nope. Hes right. Someone i know did the same dam thing. Bought one of the chargers on amazon that had the same interface and unfortunately provided too much of something and fried the batt. Only use what comes with it. I wish they sold cables that were 100% compatible. Or even the little adapters. Because mine is shorting out too and ive been using the little adapter and i hope the adapter never gets lost or breaks cuz ill never be able to charge.
 

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Hmm, are you sure it isn't just a micro usb port? My ego passthrough uses a micro usb port, same as the usb port on my android phone.

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There is also a mini B USB and USB 3.0 connectors and couple of more standard usb ports.
 

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Hmm, are you sure it isn't just a micro usb port? My ego passthrough uses a micro usb port, same as the usb port on my android phone.

There is also a mini B USB and USB 3.0 connectors and couple of more standard usb ports.

Positive. I do IT for a living. I know my USB ports. The current ego passthrough does use the standard port. The one I have has an adapter from the USB Fuji Type IV to the standard mini (not micro) that my work Blackberry uses and my portable USB hard drive uses. Everything else I own uses the micro.
 
Just wanted to confirm this also. Bought a compatible cable on monoprice, tried to charge with my computer. Battery blinked a couple times and now there is no way to charge it. It's really BS since the cables they send with the battery are total crap. Had two break on my so far. Quitting on the Ego-V till they redesign it or something.
 

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So you're saying....

it looks like a mini usb but it's wired differently? USB is just a 5v standard. If they wired it differently...they are STOOOOOPID! Dumb in fact.

OTOH...if it's wired with + and - pins in the right place... and ignores the data lines....the amp draw is up to the device. In that case...I'd go with....the bad cable fried it 1st.
 

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So you're saying....

it looks like a mini usb but it's wired differently? USB is just a 5v standard. If they wired it differently...they are STOOOOOPID! Dumb in fact.

OTOH...if it's wired with + and - pins in the right place... and ignores the data lines....the amp draw is up to the device. In that case...I'd go with....the bad cable fried it 1st.

It is NOT a mini USB...where are you getting that from? He said it is FUJI type IV, it looks different. Mini is more....square/rectangular. Fuji looks KIND of like a micro, but it isn't.
 

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I bought the Ego VV last week. it's not micro usb cable. It's proprietary so don't shove anything else in there. By the way my Ego VV broke after a week. The wires broke off the switch PCB board. Every time you press the switch the PCB bends and eventually the wires might break off. Bad design. I fixed it but was a pain in the buttocks. If it happens again I'll just make some nice VV mod out of it.
 
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