Maybe you should re-read it while paying close attention to the tone of it all. I really don't (and wont) get into an argument about it, but some of the post come across as just plain rude. The OP never asked for opinions on the device of choice.
3 months no Tobacco, all BLU
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Maybe you should re-read it while paying close attention to the tone of it all. I really don't (and wont) get into an argument about it, but some of the post come across as just plain rude. The OP never asked for opinions on the device of choice.
I never meant to imply that he was being bashed only his choice.
Yes the plain rude part has come out on both sides and we really need to stop it. I can get just as defensive (or offensive) as needed to defend my point of view. FWIW, I don't know any of these guys personally and I don't know their experience in vaping, battery safety, life, or whatever. Anyone can type anything on a keyboard. Sometimes it's true, sometimes not.
We're still at the very point we started at however after all this commentary, what works for some may not work for others. That is the bottom line. Just because one has not registered at ECF here does not mean they're not successfully vaping and have stopped analogs. They could be using anything from a Blu, to a Provari, or anything in between. This is not the only forum out there. Some people do this without forums. We really don't know how much the various devices work, only what we read here or other places, and on rare occasions in real life.
I associate with people like me, and I'm sure others do also. You tend to always migrate towards people that it's easier to get along with, people you have fun with and can talk to about like preferences. For me and ALL of the Vaper's I know, it's the small analog look-a- likes that are working. Everyone that's tried my 5V mod hates it. I've read here a lot "the more it looks like a cig the worse it works".....OH....ok....got it now.
lol...What I find interesting is how we are all ready to agree that taste is subjective when it comes to e-liquid but not equipment
lol...What I find interesting is how we are all ready to agree that taste is subjective when it comes to e-liquid but not equipment
ANYTHING that gets someone off analogs is good in my book.
I'd love to see more devices available without having to research.
Anyone want to fund a vaping store for me to start
ANYTHING that gets someone off analogs is good in my book.
I'd love to see more devices available without having to research.
Anyone want to fund a vaping store for me to start
It's only the funds that keep me from doing just that. I'd offer a COMPLETE line of options....from large to small and explain the advantages and disadvantages of each. Offer complete TRUTHFUL information. I'm sure if that was done you'd sell some of every type in there. Individuality is an awesome thing.
lol...What I find interesting is how we are all ready to agree that taste is subjective when it comes to e-liquid but not equipment
don't get them started, one of my Favorites is Johnson Creek and we all know how I found them. This has become strawman alley here.
No one has been rude. Wv2win made a remark that was misinterpreted by someone as being directed at the OP. He was informed that that was not the case. Where's the rudeness?
Someone else looked at the thread and accused people of bashing the OP. If he wasn't accusing people of bashing the OP, then what's the problem. Does Blu need him to defend them from bashing?
I will bash Blu and his ilk at will. That's my prerogative.
I have some experience and I'll exercise that prerogative.
But no one has bashed the OP. There was a hint that he might be shilling. That's not bashing.
No one has insulted people who vape Blu, or anything else.
No one has said that analog look-alikes necessarily work bad.
There is also a whole universe of options between a look-alike and a 5v box mod.
Maybe you've never tried one. Maybe if you'd used a HV carto on your mod, you're freinds would've liked it.
I don't usually like 5V myself. Too hot for most of the juice I like and the coils I use.
It's about wattage, not volts.
I would NEVER say 5v is somehow inherently superior to 3.7.
It is simple physics that the more a pv looks like an analog, the more it is subject to serious limitations, unless it's a pass through, which has its own limitations. This isn't opinion, this is battery science.
But even within the limitations imposed by the battery size, some look-alikes are better than others.
Some aren't over-priced, over-hyped or proprietary. Nor do they make unrealistic promises.
It's also pretty obvious that people tire of the limitations of even one of the good look-alikes and move on when they realize it's not necessary to hold something that looks like an analog to quit smoking them. Likewise, a fair number of people, probably the majority, shed their initial urge to vape ejuice that tastes like tobacco and to insist on an automatic battery. Some, like yourself, prefer an automatic for practical reasons. But many people fall into that newbie desire for an automatic for the same reasons they're attracted to a look-alike. Because it's similar to an analog.
Until they are talked out of it.
So, who is bashing automatic look-alikes and tobacco juice or their users? Nobody.
But almost all of us started out using a unit with at least one or two of those properties and quickly realized they were limiting.
Doesn't mean they're bad. But those limitations, particularly the limited capacity and vapor production of the look-alikes, is enought to turn many people away from vaping once they get sick of swapping batteries and especially if they're being gouged on overpriced, proprietary prefilled cartridges.
Put up a poll here. Ask how many people started on a look-alike and stayed with one after 6 months. I'll guarantee you that it'll be a small minority. I'll also guarantee you that, because they were inundated with look-alike marketing to the exclusion of nearly everything else, most of those who didn't upgrade, and never really researched the issue, have resumed smoking analogs.
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lol good point
I've never tried them. I have tried several others that are reported to be top of the line stuff but I must be a bottom of the line type of girl. The only ones I've found that I like are from Smokeless Image, V4L and one from Blue Mist.
lol...What I find interesting is how we are all ready to agree that taste is subjective when it comes to e-liquid but not equipment
That's the way it is. Flavor is, by nature, subjective. Equipment is subject to physical laws. There are aspects to it that are not subjective. Form factor is subjective to a great extent. Electrical properties, reliability, capacity, etc. are NOT subjective.
Why in the hell do I care about a poll here? Do you or anyone know what works for me?? For them??? Did it ever occur to you that we, here on ECF are not the only vapers on the planet? I'm not sure the difference between a "real" 5 volt mod box and an unreal one.(which could not exist by physical laws by the way). It either "is" or it "isn't". There is no in-between. Don't confuse my posting here (the number) or my limited vaping experience with other areas. As you have the right to bash blu, I have the right to interpret your posting any way I choose. Ya it's rude. Get over it. You're not helping anyone here. Not a single soul. You do NOT like Blu, analog look alike or any of us that use them. OK WE GOT IT!!!....now start a poll who cares about your opinion of us. See how that one goes. You may interpret this as rude, condescending, or downright I don't care. You're choice.
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It's written all over this forum that the closer in appearance to a real cig the worse it is. Do a search of "I'm new here", and somewhere in each thread this will come up along with "skip the crap and buy a mod/kgo/anything except a lookalike"
So, cig lookalikes get bashed all the time and sometimes it's deserved, and sometimes it's not. 808's ftw
Any poll on this site is gonna be seriously biased anyway. The attitudes and opinions of active ecf'ers aren't a reflection of the entire vaping community, just a small and loud subset that actually give a s...
A little like voting in the USA, there's a silent majority that never gets heard. Maybe they're satisfied Blu users, maybe they're not. We don't know and never will.
This is a conversation that can never end so maybe it's time to get the mods to close the thread.
It's written all over this forum that the closer in appearance to a real cig the worse it is. Do a search of "I'm new here", and somewhere in each thread this will come up along with "skip the crap and buy a mod/kgo/anything except a lookalike"
So, cig lookalikes get bashed all the time and sometimes it's deserved, and sometimes it's not. 808's ftw
Any poll on this site is gonna be seriously biased anyway. The attitudes and opinions of active ecf'ers aren't a reflection of the entire vaping community, just a small and loud subset that actually give a s...
A little like voting in the USA, there's a silent majority that never gets heard. Maybe they're satisfied Blu users, maybe they're not. We don't know and never will.
This is a conversation that can never end so maybe it's time to get the mods to close the thread.
And the ones you mentioned are all mini-battery models which are way overpriced. I would not have personally run into so many people who tried vaping and believe it was a scam if they had been able to try a model that was not a mini-battery model, IMO. It's no accident that the none of the highly marketed models do not offer anything beyond a mini-battery model. Once people started to do a comparison, their cheaply made mini-model sales would suffer.
And there are a few mini-battery models that are better than the others, namely Volt and Bloog and I have recommended those when appropriate. But they still have limitations due to their size.
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Your right, but I was referring to our preference of the equipment not the make up of it.
To me you really made sailorman and my point. People who vape a Blu to start mostly end up in one of two places: either they go back to smoking and we never hear from them or they do more research and move up to a better model like you did. If Blu is so great, there should be no need to get a better model.
Why does Volcano still have the small kit on their site and sell it then? I'd think such a horrible kit would had been taken off long ago. I've never tried to market a horrible item with better ones. I'd never offer to pay shipping on an ego but I have offered to pay it on ANY Blu, (or for that matter any 510 threaded small battery automatic) kit. So don't throw them in the trash. Any Kit with the batteries and PCC (either style) let me know I'll take it off your hands.
Glad you brought this point up. Any company, and I don't care what they sell, who lies to the consumer is one to be avoided. One of the amazing things about most of the smaller suppliers that we support is that they don't lie and they are genuinely trying to help their customers.
I don't understand anyone sticking up for a company that lies.
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