30-32 gauge kanthal A1 has less throat hit that 27-28 gauge?

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just a question really i have done some research regarding coils as i dont like throat hit in fact i hate it... i am currently vaping a 27/28 gauge 1.4-1.6ohm coils and the throat hit is to much for me even at low wattages,, so i went online and did some research and people are saying if i did a 2ohm-2.5ohm coil build with 30 gauge kanthal this would drop the throat hit considerably would this be true?
 

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In my experience, throat hit comes primarily from nicotine.

Larger wire gauge might be responsible for giving you more vapor, hence more nicotine, hence more throat hit.

What nicotine strength are you using? You might just want to power it.

ETA: oh, also how your coils are placed with respect to the air intake also makes a big difference. Closer to the source makes things a lot smoother, for me.
 
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In my experience, throat hit comes primarily from nicotine.

Larger wire gauge might be responsible for giving you more vapor, hence more nicotine, hence more throat hit.

What nicotine strength are you using? You might just want to power it.

ETA: oh, also how your coils are placed with respect to the air intake also makes a big difference. Closer to the source makes things a lot smoother, for me.

i am vaping 3mg nicotine..and 80/20 vg/pg and yes i had it as close to it as possible but i lifted it slightly and it has seemed to help a tiny bit but not much? i have maxed out the airflow on my eleaf lemo drop aswell also wicking with koh gen do cotton and tried loose,medium and tight in the coil no difference.. the throat hit is slaying my throat... before i switched to RTA's i was smoking 50/50 juice and 10mg nic
 
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    Not really, you can make any gauge wire do anything you want.

    Throat hit is a thump in the back of your throat, and really has nothing to do with how hot or how harsh the hit is.
    Heat is the result of coil temperature, and a vape can be to hot even with no throat hit.
    Harshness can be the result of the vape being to dry, and/or to much PG in the mix.

    The thermodynamics of every type atomizer is different, so there is no set formula for wire gauge. Some PVs can even give the coil a little extra help to get up to temperature. There are just to many variables for there to be any one correct answer.

    Some simply say turn the power up/down to correct the TH, but in reality wattage has very little to do with actual throat hit. It just changes the temperature of the hit.

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    I'm going to take a wild stab, and guess that you are using a PV that does not have "step down", and/or a PV that measure "mean" wattage, and what you are rally dealing with is to much heat, not to much TH.
     
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    Not really, you can make any gauge wire do anything you want.

    Throat hit is a thump in the back of your throat, and really has nothing to do with how hot or how harsh the hit is.
    Heat is the result of coil temperature, and a vape can be to hot even with no throat hit.
    Harshness can be the result of the vape being to dry, and/or to much PG in the mix.

    The thermodynamics of every type atomizer is different, so there is no set formula for wire gauge. Some PVs can even give the coil a little extra help to get up to temperature. There are just to many variables for there to be any one correct answer.

    Some simply say turn the power up/down to correct the TH, but in reality wattage has very little to do with actual throat hit. It just changes the temperature of the hit.

    thank you for the info.. but what do you think i could do to get rid of that scratchy thump in my throat that causes me to have a coughing fit after 2 drags max? also you said about the vape being dry what did you mean by this? my tank is wicking fine?
     

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    To dry is simple a matter of AFR (air fuel ratio). To hot is simply a matter of wattage.

    It's no different than a car engine. The larger the displacement of a cylinder, the more fuel required to maintain the ideal AFR. So you can either decrease the air, or increase the liquid if it's to dry. The normal way to increase the liquid is to increase the surface aria of the coil.
     
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    Well, someone has to ask the dumb question, might as well be me....

    Are you sure you're drinking enough water?

    The RTA is probably producing a lot more vapor than your previous clearos, and this can definitely cause your throat to become sensitive if you're not hydrating enough,

    i drink about 6 pints of water a day
     

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    To dry is simple a matter of AFR (air fuel ratio). To hot is simply a matter of wattage.

    It's no different than a car engine. The larger the displacement of a cylinder, the more fuel required to maintain the ideal AFR. So you can either decrease the air, or increase the liquid if it's to dry. The normal way to increase the liquid is to increase the surface aria of the coil.

    by increasing the surface area do you mean adding more wraps to my coil?
     

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    just a question really i have done some research regarding coils as i dont like throat hit in fact i hate it... i am currently vaping a 27/28 gauge 1.4-1.6ohm coils and the throat hit is to much for me even at low wattages,, so i went online and did some research and people are saying if i did a 2ohm-2.5ohm coil build with 30 gauge kanthal this would drop the throat hit considerably would this be true?

    You were specific about gauge and ohms but you were vague about watts.

    What wattage?

    With 27 to 28 gauge at 1.4 to 1.6 ohm single coil, you were probably running 10 to 20 watts.

    If you used 30 gauge and 2 to 2.5 ohm single coil, you'd end up in the 5 to 10 watt region.

    The less watts you're running at the less juice you're vaping per minute, and therefore the less nicotine per minute/second
     
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    thank you for the info.. but what do you think i could do to get rid of that scratchy thump in my throat that causes me to have a coughing fit after 2 drags max? also you said about the vape being dry what did you mean by this? my tank is wicking fine?

    That could be the liquid you are using.
     

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    the e juice i am vaping is 80% vg 5% pg and 15% flavoring Apple and Raspberry with 3mg nic..tried several other juices at the same ratios as well and there was no difference

    So now it sounds like DIY.

    The high vg might be an issue;

    and the flavorings might be an issue.

    no mention of steep time.

    I'm still waiting on a answer to the question: What wattage? - Post #13.

    Do you get any heavy chest issues ?
     

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    So now it sounds like DIY.

    The high vg might be an issue;

    and the flavorings might be an issue.

    no mention of steep time.

    I'm still waiting on a answer to the question: What wattage? - Post #13.

    Do you get any heavy chest issues ?

    no issues with heavy chest at all and the juice works flawlessly on my aerotank v2 no problems.. steep time is 6-8 hours in crock pot on keep warm shaking once per hour with a 2-4 hour cap off breathe time when completed.. i also vape between 11-14 watts but i still have the scratchy feeling as low as 8-9
     

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    no issues with heavy chest at all and the juice works flawlessly on my aerotank v2 no problems.. steep time is 6-8 hours in crock pot on keep warm shaking once per hour with a 2-4 hour cap off breathe time when completed.. i also vape between 11-14 watts but i still have the scratchy feeling as low as 8-9

    So now the story is the juice works fine in your aerotank v2 at 11 to 14 watts, but the problem comes up with... what?
     

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    So now the story is the juice works fine in your aerotank v2 at 11 to 14 watts, but the problem comes up with... what?

    i vape my aerotank at 8.5 watts but with lemo and 27-28 gauge kanthal i get no vapour or flavour at 8.5 watts but still cough its so weird... gta vape it at 10 minimum to get enough vapour or flavour
     

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    i vape my aerotank at 8.5 watts but with lemo and 27-28 gauge kanthal i get no vapour or flavour at 8.5 watts but still cough its so weird... gta vape it at 10 minimum to get enough vapour or flavour

    Once you vape the same juice on a different coil at higher wattage, you're getting more vape per second.

    On the lemo, you're also using a different wick; that might have something to do with any coughing or scratchy throat.

    If you build a 30 or 32 gauge coil on the lemo, you should be able to vape it at lower wattage like 8.5 watts as with the aerotank.
     
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