36mg PG liquid and 0mg VG liquid

[dr1gonfir5]

So I have 60ml of both 36mg PG liquid and 0mg VG liquid. I want to make 12mg liquid, with a little more VG than PG, maybe a 60/40 or a 70/30 blend. Let's say I want to make 5ml of e-liquid, how do I do the math? I've tried calculators but they don't seem to work with this specific scenario.

 

[Aurora-Oblivion]

Calculator should work fine for what you wanted, I tested up to 20% flavoring, but here's an example each PG/VG way with 10% flavoring

This is assuming the 36mg PG you mention is 100% PG. If so, then just think of the 0mg VG as plain VG and add that where it calls for VG, since that's all it is

Breatru's ejuice Me Up calculator is here in case you haven't tried this one
eJuice Me Up - Best eJuice Calculator

* Sorry, scratch the above, sorry! I mis-read that and thought you wanted more PG... Recalculating

Due to the low nic PG you have, you'll only be able to use certain PG/VG combo's once you add in flavor. It looks like for 60VG you'll only be able to use a total of 6% flavoring before the ratio doesn't work anymore. Either ratio is fine flavorless though, if you can vape that

So you'll either need to settle for less flavoring at 60VG, use super concentrate flavorings like VZ SC's, or settle in at 50/50 or higher for PG. Then next time order VG based nic instead of PG based if you're sure you want to go higher on the VG from now on.

 

[dr1gonfir5]

For me it says I have Negative PG. Don't understand.

 

[Aurora-Oblivion]

Yes, sorry! I was editing the above, please refresh the page and you'll see my edits.

It's because you have PG based nic, in a low concentration, so for 12mg/ml you'll need to use a certain amount of the PG base to get the nic level you want, so you can reach a high VG ratio because of that.

If you're sure you want more VG, you'll need to use up the Nic you have at a ratio that works for now, and order some VG Nic instead. If you like working with PG nic, then you'll need to order a higher concentration like 100mg/ml in order to be able to do 60VG or 70VG

 

[dr1gonfir5]

Yes, sorry! I was editing the above, please refresh the page and you'll see my edits.

It's because you have PG based nic, in a low concentration, so for 12mg/ml you'll need to use a certain amount of the PG base to get the nic level you want, so you can reach a high VG ratio because of that.

If you're sure you want more VG, you'll need to use up the Nic you have at a ratio that works for now, and order some VG Nic instead. If you like working with PG nic, then you'll need to order a higher concentration like 100mg/ml in order to be able to do 60VG or 70VG

Okay, Thanks! It says if I do a 50/50 mix at 12mg, I can only use 16% flavoring. So If I want to use 3 flavors, I have to divide them into the 16 percent? Like 6% white chocolate, 5% Strawberry cream, and 5% MJ? (I'm using all my flavors from TFA)

PS: I'm trying to clone Rasta Blood from Fuzion Vapor and trying to figure out where to start.

 

[Aurora-Oblivion]

Yes, you got that right about the flavoring percents, that's how you'll have to do it until you get different Nic.

Good luck on the cloning, it can be a pain!!

Also, if you meant TFA Mary Jane, please don't use 5% or you'll end up tasting pine trees. I haven't used it myself yet, but I've read by everyone you must use it VERY sparingly or all you'll get is pine trees.

If you've already used it before and know that 5% is OK for you then ignore this

 

[dr1gonfir5]

Yes, you got that right about the flavoring percents, that's how you'll have to do it until you get different Nic.

Good luck on the cloning, it can be a pain!!

Also, if you meant TFA Mary Jane, please don't use 5% or you'll end up tasting pine trees. I haven't used it myself yet, but I've read by everyone you must use it VERY sparingly or all you'll get is pine trees.

If you've already used it before and know that 5% is OK for you then ignore this

Thanks for all the help! I've been trying to find a percentage for Mary Jane TFA, but can't seem to find one in any thread. I figured "weed flavor" was too touchy for most vapers.

 

[Aurora-Oblivion]

There's a few threads discussing it around here, in the DIY section and in the flavor review section I think. Most tend to hate it, but there is a few that love it, and I'd say 99% say it tastes nothing like what it's meant to represent

I suggest starting very low, like maybe 1% or test it at 1-3% by itself and see what you think before you waste any mixes with before you know how it tastes to you.

Good luck!

And please do post back your thoughts and findings on the Mary Jane flavoring for everyone to find later, thanks!

 

[dr1gonfir5]

Cool. Personally the more piney it is, the better I liked it from the 2 bottles I've tried. Anyways Fuzion uses TFA flavors (allegedly) and those are the 3 closest flavors to the description by them. They also use 60-70% VG. So the closest I got was this. 60%VG for a 12mg blend, 5% White chocolate, 5% strawberries and cream, and 3% Mary Jane. Would this be a decent starting point with my current juices?

 

[Aurora-Oblivion]

I've never tried it, that flavor or the juice from Fuzion, so I can't really help much

What does it taste like, strawberry creamy pine needles? If so, then yes I think you're probably on the right track.

I do know the TFA White Chocolate needs a LONG steep before it tastes like anything creamy or chocolate, but your ratios sound like a good starting point. Just keep in mind it may need 2-3 weeks or longer before that white chocolate has any positive effect on the overall flavor.