4 years and I still cant get into vaping

[Katya]

While you and I are in the wee hours of the morn, I guess in NY, some would be starting their day. Much like I will be in just 3 short hours! Also, thanks for the hugs and kisses, think I needed em, they kinda beat me up good! I guess I just need to learn that no matter the forum, or whatever, there will always be a group of people who feel the need to basically tell people their stupid, in not so many words. Oh well.....maybe I really shouldn't be so sensitive what people who know nothing about me or how I perceive things actually think of me, or what they have to say to me.

After four years here, I just shake my head and walk away. That's the nature of forums--you never know who you're talking to. But you'll figure it out, in time. Most of the people here are very nice and friendly. I have made so many friends--and some of them feel more real than my real life friends.

 

[heisenbergNY]

It's the flavor. vaping is completely different from smoking. It's the future and a hope of man-kind.


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[tyoung]

I was able to fully make the switch when my MVP V2 arrived. It gave a way more satisfying vape than little eGo T did. Also getting the right juice is really important. I started out with the fruit and candy flavors, and while they tasted good, they didn't give that kick that I needed. The Djarum Black from MFS really helped, then came the almighty Pluid, and I was off cigs for good!

 

[rabernet]

I bought my first ecig 4 maybe even 5 years ago, thinking it would be the easiest switch from smoking to practically quitting.

But as soon as they were delivered and I tried it out, I threw them in a box in the closet very unsatisfied.

About a year later I see the next big thing come out, the eGo, so I order one, try it out, make a mess with the liquids and such, and again, I threw it in the closet after one day.

Then about a year ago I do a little more reasearch and buy an ego c-twist with a tank and wick. And once again , I threw it in storage after day one.

And here I am now, after about $600 wasted , I'm digging it out and charging it up, refilling the tank and trying to get into it, but I just cant. Almost every hit burns my throat, the liquid sometimes leaks into my mouth making me gag and spit, and its a pain to refill the tanks. It really doesn't do it for me like analogs. I really don't know how people can go from a pack a day to ecigs just like that.

I just cleaned out the tank and changed the wick this morning.

Took a couple of hits (normal cigarette type drags) and it feels like I'm inhaling a ball of fire, right in my chest and lungs, not my throat.

I'm using 18mg/nic juices , I have 6 or 7 bottles of varying ones, they're 1 to 4 years old. I think they're PG ? Not sure really what that is.

The only reason I'm posting is because once every year or so I get fed up with smoking. I do LOVE to smoke (in the moment), but HATE the after-effects, (clothes smell, yellowing of walls , easily winded just walking up stairs) I'm only 27 and feel like I have the lungs of a 70 year old. So I look for an alternative.

Plus I want to be able to vape in the car , or movie theater or hotel room, without having huge withdrawls of wanting a cigarette. Which usually ruins whatever expierience Im trying to have.

And yes I did spend around 600 on this stuff, starter kits of 100$+ each, juices and extra batteries. I probably got ripped off for all I know, but everything I got was shipped to me, so it added up quick. That's why I'm wary to try again and spend more money on stuff that I won't like.

Trial and error hasn't worked for me to be honest. It's just led me further away from ecigs.

I hate to be the only one who didn't get hooked so fast as everyone else here.

But its true, its not a fail-safe alternative to smoking as everyone proclaims.

JCH - I'm trying to understand what you need from us? Was your post just to vent? Which is perfectly fine, btw!

Or were you wanting us to help you with suggestions? You've gotten a lot of great replies in an effort to help you, but no real feedback, back from you regarding the advice (which had me wondering if maybe you didn't really want advice, you just wanted a place to vent a bit)

Do you even WANT to vape? How can we help?

 

[DancingHeretik]

Trial and error hasn't worked for me to be honest. It's just led me further away from ecigs.

I hate to be the only one who didn't get hooked so fast as everyone else here.

But its true, its not a fail-safe alternative to smoking as everyone proclaims.

Vaping won't work for all people. But, for those who sincerely want to make it work, it works for most people. Some make the switch with the first puff. Some, it may take months. You've invested enough money and time that I'm going to assume that you really would like for this to work, no matter how frustrated you have become.

Trial and error will work as long as you combine it with education. You need to find out what exactly is not working, then find a solution for it. You may be able to fix what you have. Or, the solution may be to buy something else.

It sounds like you have good batteries (eGo-C Twist). And, inhalation technique has already been explained to you in this thread. Juice is something you'll have to experiment with to get the right PG/VG ratio, nicotine strength, and flavor for you You've already had some suggestions for that. BTW, the flavor that did it for me was Caramel Macchiato from DFW Vapers.

As hard as finding the right e-liquid is, at least it's a fairly simple matter of trial and error. Juice Deliver Systems (atomizers, cartomizers, clearomizers, carto-tanks, . . . . . ) are more complicated. We each have very different preferences. The best place to get to know what your choices are is here: Proper terminology - Is it a carto, a tank, or what? A Guide to Juice Attachments

It looks like you have a T2, which is a top-coil clearo. I happen to like the T2. Some people prefer bottom-coil clearos instead (like the ProTank or Evod). There are countless options nowadays. But, whatever you get, you do still need to learn how to use it, how to troubleshoot and fix problems.

I agree that the ideal would be to go to a B&M in person and get some help and guidance. I also think you shouldn't put all your eggs in one basket. IOW, try a variety. As long as you already have the Twist, you can buy one of this and one of that to experiment with different toppers. For times when you're frustrated, maybe a 2.0 ohm cartomizer. It's simple and reliable when you need to take a break from finicky clearos.

You might also get a few atomizers for dripping. I happen to love using just an atomizer and drip-tip and just dripping. Pure and simple. But, even if you don't like dripping, it's good to have the atomizers handy for taste testing new juices before you commit a clearo or carto to a juice that you may not like.

I was lucky that my brother did lots of research before he tried vaping. Whatever he bought I bought. I started with an eGo-T. Then a 510 with atomizers and cartridges, then 510 cartomizers. Any one of these might have been enough to keep me off cigarettes. I'll never know because I kept looking just to be absolutely sure. I was afraid that if I got dissatisfied before I had a new thing to try that would be the end of it for me.

About a month in, my brother (and I) discovered the 306. With a 306, a drip-tip, and my Caramel Macchiato e-liquid, I knew I had made it.!

I had smoked for 37+ years and had given up ever being able to quit. If I can do it, anyone can do it! But, I couldn't just throw out my cigarettes to start. It couldn't be all or nothing for me. I had to make it an adventure with my trusty cigarettes sitting right there waiting in case I needed them. Some people are the opposite though.

Experiment and find out what works for YOU.

... after I'd wasted gobs of money on other things (that I won't mention here, in case there are fans - except the JoyeTech 510T starter kit, which everyone knows is *junk* LOL)

I love 510-t atomizers! They're great little drippers!

 

[peraspera]

Trial and error hasn't worked for me to be honest. It's just led me further away from ecigs.

I hate to be the only one who didn't get hooked so fast as everyone else here.

But its true, its not a fail-safe alternative to smoking as everyone proclaims.

You will find ECF posts on the entire continuum of accidental quitters to people who have had to try different things for months, even years, to find what works for them to quit. My advice would be to not worry the least bit about quitting until you find gear and juice that you find personally satisfying.

It's basic psychology to associate behavior you wish to reinforce with pleasant things. Burnt taste and a sore throat is highly counterproductive to that goal. Once you find vaping enjoyable, quitting will be orders of magnitude easier.

It sounds like the clearo you have is not working properly. That can definitely cause a nasty vape that can burn your throat. Katya has some excellent suggestions for bottom coil clearos and how to maintain them in post #30.

It's also possible that the juice you currently have might be an all PG juice which can be a throat irritant. At any rate, it's really getting old to use so it would be a good idea to pitch it and start with new juice. Try a 50PG/50VG blend and see if that is easier on your throat.

You might want to try the http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/canada-forum/ to get suggestions on reliable Canadian hardware and juice vendors. Read the stickies on that forum. You also might be able to find a fellow vaper where you live that would be willing to meet you and help you in person.

 

[patkin]

7 months ago, a severe brain stem stroke almost killed me at 37, left me partially paralyzed on my rt side, along with countless other things. I know I have to stop analogs, but I just didn't WANT to quit! I'm already adjusting to so many other changes now, they are like my security blanket. About 5 wks ago, my hubby took me to the local vape shop. I got an ego style battery, a dew clearos, and a kanger evod. I used it while I was places I couldn't smoke and it was a hassle now for me to just get up and walk to the parking lot when I'm at my kids ball games, ect. I have ordered a handful of juices, and a ton of new gear. I never put analogs down, just got used to vapeing on top of it. Well, I still have tons to learn and tons to try, but today I didn't have my first analog till 1 in the afternoon. I have had 6 so far today. Pushing myself a little farther today. But everyone on here told me not to tell myself I was quitting analogs, just that I was taking up vaping also. And since I thought of it like that, I find the pressure I put on myself has lifted and I'm smoking a little less everyday this wk. I'm looking forward to buying more juices, seeing what I really love, but don't pressure yourself, it's working for me. And watch vids on all the probs you're having. I watch vids a ton, and read a ton on here, and am slowly educating myself. Everyone here has been so supportive! I just keep saying I'm not quitting, just adding something new into the mix, and whattya know! It's slowly working!

My heart goes out to you. Yes, 5 or 6 a days seems to be the usual. I've read it many times here and it was for me also. Those 5 or 6 kept up for almost a year and I never, ever, beat myself up about them. For a bit, I dropped to 2 or 3 but did it too fast and that's when detoxing hit which I couldn't deal with so I went back up to 5 or 6 and brought it down much slower. I wish you well. You'll be in my thoughts (prayers.) I'm 70 years old and caring for my Hubby with a major illness and know what a factor stress is when dealing with medical conditions. Don't push yourself. you're doing really, really, well at those 5 or 6.

Edit: DancingHeretik "liked" this (thank you Dancing Heretick) which brought me back to see if I needed to reply. When I read it with new eyes, I thought... what on earth does being 70 have to do with anything... so I'll explain. As we age, we usually deal with new medical issues and, for some reason, emotional stuff is harder to deal with too so stress becomes a bigger issue for us.... that's why I said it... and am explaining for those too young to have experienced it yet. I'm just saying... we should all be realistic about what we can handle and not push ourselves too much or let others do that to us either just creating another problem.

 

[LTomk]

I bought my first ecig 4 maybe even 5 years ago, thinking it would be the easiest switch from smoking to practically quitting.

But as soon as they were delivered and I tried it out, I threw them in a box in the closet very unsatisfied.

About a year later I see the next big thing come out, the eGo, so I order one, try it out, make a mess with the liquids and such, and again, I threw it in the closet after one day.

Then about a year ago I do a little more reasearch and buy an ego c-twist with a tank and wick. And once again , I threw it in storage after day one.

And here I am now, after about $600 wasted , I'm digging it out and charging it up, refilling the tank and trying to get into it, but I just cant. Almost every hit burns my throat, the liquid sometimes leaks into my mouth making me gag and spit, and its a pain to refill the tanks. It really doesn't do it for me like analogs. I really don't know how people can go from a pack a day to ecigs just like that.

I choked on my first hit from an ecig. I was a smoker for over 40 years. It's going to sound stupid but ecigs require a different way to "smoke". Requires a little adapting to how you drag on it. Some people like a lung hit, some a throat hit. It requires a slow, long draw. Try some of the tobacco flavored juices. Halo makes a good RY4 called Tribeca. Skip all the fruity, sweety juice for a while and see how it goes. Good luck.

 

[hittman]

JCH, you're right. It's not a fool proof fix for everyone. There have been some good suggestions like getting some higher VG ratio liquids. That might help with the burning. I saw someone mentioned the aspire clearo . The aspire mini vivi has been a great fit for me and works well with higher VG liquids.

I started with a standard 510 kit almost five years ago. Did I quit instantly? No. To be honest, I struggled for a long time. Maybe start out supplementing the ecig here and there for a smoke and see where it leads if you can find a liquid that doesn't cause you pain. It's not a contest. Do what works for you and if you still have a cigarette here and there then it's not the end of the world. You'll be better off for the ones you're not smoking.

 

[CastleRat]

I suggest you go to where you bought your equipment and ask them to show you how to use it properly. If they won't try their competitors - I'm sure they'd like a new customer.

 

[Vaslovik]

.... HOW did you manage to spend 600 dollars on the products you mentioned? where are you buying them from?? I have a k101 mech, a provari, and atleast 4 other stick mods (ego's, innokin itaste vv v3) and I still have not spent that much

A very good question! By the time I'd gone well through all the ego stuff and the protank and a mech and RBA I was nowhere near $600 into it! Okay, if you throw in the juice I bought over a few months before I started making my own maybe, but these days I vape dirt cheap. It sounds to me like 1. ) a lack of motivation, and 2.) impatience. If you expected a magic bullet I'm sorry, but you have to put a good deal of yourself into it. You can't just push the button and be free of the cigs.

Back when I started it was with a truly wretched junk ecig, and I knew there had to be a better way, so I worked my way through levels of hardware, learned rebuilding and how to get a genesis RBA built right, and I was happy I had arrived, but long before I built my first genny on a mech I was off the cigs, because I WANTED TO QUIT!

I had serious health problems from smoking and I knew it. I also knew they would get worse and I would be disabled from them. Faced with that I had some real motivation. It was worth it to me to invest the time and homework in what in time satisfied me more than cigarettes, and was enjoyable on many more levels. It took patience and work. If you aren't willing to invest that no wonder you are not getting there.

 

[Sir PennsylVapia]

I bought my first ecig 4 maybe even 5 years ago, thinking it would be the easiest switch from smoking to practically quitting.

But as soon as they were delivered and I tried it out, I threw them in a box in the closet very unsatisfied.

About a year later I see the next big thing come out, the eGo, so I order one, try it out, make a mess with the liquids and such, and again, I threw it in the closet after one day.

Then about a year ago I do a little more reasearch and buy an ego c-twist with a tank and wick. And once again , I threw it in storage after day one.

And here I am now, after about $600 wasted , I'm digging it out and charging it up, refilling the tank and trying to get into it, but I just cant. Almost every hit burns my throat, the liquid sometimes leaks into my mouth making me gag and spit, and its a pain to refill the tanks. It really doesn't do it for me like analogs. I really don't know how people can go from a pack a day to ecigs just like that.

I think Yoda would say "into vaping you want yes? when into you vaping should be" or something like that I am not really a die hard purist with issues of the force. I was a kid and was there for the beginning and I love it but yeahhhhhhh....Anyway, I did not read any other replies so if this is just more of the same then take it as good advice. I started vaping and was NOT EVEN THINKING OF QUITTING SMOKING as a matter of fact I was anti-quitting because I loved to smoke period. I was/am an idiot who lived for today and today I want to smoke. I started vaping gas station cig-a-likes because I was sick of going outside in the heat or cold depending on the season. So I did both. I did both for months and even with a crappy gas station e-cig I started to not want a regular cigarette as often. Over the course of 4 or 5 months I was smoking about 3 to 4 real cigs a day and one day the e-cig just seemed like it was more satisfying than a real cig or I felt like e-cigs were good enough so one day I said to my self "hey self how's it hanging and then there was this long inner monologue about how they were hanging and after an hour of telling myself off, because who am I to tell me anything? " ok. back on point so the day I tried to go 24hours only using my gas station e-cig and not smoke is now 15+ months of not one real cigarette period. So I have been vaping for 2 years now and I do not miss smoking. Once in a while after a really good meal the thought crosses my mind but then I look at the thousands of dollars I have in Vape gear and juice and the feeling passes. The gas station was not the important piece of the puzzle. The smoking and vaping at the same time and tapering off was my holy Grail. I started with the mods and all the gear I have now about a month after I stopped smoking but at first when I saw all of these people online holding what looked like flash light ....s to vape I thought they were all idiots and they looked ridiculous because I wanted a cigarette looking e-cig because that is what I was used to. So cut your losses with tanks and egos because I think that you should keep the device as close to real cigarettes as possible. Go order a starter kit that is proven like Greensmoke because they are simple. You get a battery part and screw on a cartomizer and vape. Simple Simple Simple. If I would have known about the better kits when I first started I would have been happier but with you it is crucial to get a quality easy to use cig-a-like style e-cig that has good vapor and decent throat hit and just ease into it. Do not try to quit smoking because for you it will not work that way IMO. So just take the first step and start working a good e cig in to your routine or habit or whatever you call it and relax man. Just ease into it slowly. If it takes a year to stop smoking so what? Right now you are worse off because you have no faith in yourself and I think you expected too much too soon and who does not with all of the hype about ecigs and how "easy" it is. Easy my rosey red ... easy. Please. But it does not have to happen fast. Just replacing one cigarette each day right now is a HUGE WIN for you and it should be!. I recommend greensmoke brand because I have tried them and have them on hand for any situation where stealth or cigalikes would be more appropriate. Good luck and give yourself a break and give vaping time to appeal to you as you still get to smoke while you very slowly ease into it.

 

[Spencer87]

I doubt the op is still checking this. But from what I gather ego or evod are like the crappier e cigarette. I dunno. After all.my juice and e cig coming..... I feel I would be an idiot tl not quit. But I don't need to quit. What I need to do is stop smoking at work. That's where this comes handy. But I eventually wanna quit smoking altogether. And I really want to. I once quit for 3 months and felt better than ever. I remember that feeling. I want it again. So.I want to quit. It had to be something you really wanna do. Push past. Get good products. Try halo they seem to.have good juices and starters. I haven't started yet and I'm down...
Over 300

 

[Spencer87]

And Canadian classics aren't the best either

 

[jstjoehere]

I think more than anything possibly its the turn off of the harsh throat hit and juice popping up in your throat. When I started my vape shop was more interested in making a fast sell rather than listening to me and selling me what I truely needed. Its simply the only shop here and I dont care for it. I would highly recommend researching vaping. First off find out what you need to do to get rid of the things you dont like about it. Throat hit and popping juice can be annoying for some people. Throat hit can be altered by Nicotine levels, pg/vg mix, voltage or wattage being used, even some flavors can add to throat hit. With the stuff you have theres no reason why you shouldnt get a decent satisfying vape. There are many more experienced users here than I but when I started I was highly unsatisfied but I wanted to stop smoking so I researched and then bought things I needed. Juice and a tank to suit my needs was a major help then a variable volt/watt battery mod and I really enjoy vaping now. Of course I still crave but Ive only been off analogs for a month now and the cravings honestly arent that bad and are satisfied with vaping. If your serious about not smoking then get someone to help you try different things. Good luck to you.

 

[crxess]

Well, when the Op is actually serious and ready to commit he/she will post again and hopefully more appropriately. Rather than read all these pages, I read OP's past post.
These are the post of a devoted Smoker curious about what others see in Vaping.
We who have committed know there is no Magic bullet or instant solution but with support and determination we succeded where all other methods failed us.

Ball is in your court Op!

Later

 

[SteamHead]

OP has made TWO replies in 8 pages of topic... I think you guys may be wasting your time :/

 

[Spencer87]

Vaping is pretty close to Magic though... I mean. Its the closest your going to get to smoking. Nothing can be exactly like smoking. Sure... Vaping doesnt make you smell like **** , Vaping doesnt contain Tar, Which is the same thing thats on the roads outside your house, and under flat rooftops to stick the roof material on. Vaping doesnt contain all the other poisons. Vaping wont Shave 20 years off your life. you wont die horribly of Lung cancer. so i guess Vaping is not perfect. Stick with the smoking for all the benefits I listed above and more, such as extremely high prices. Last time I bought Canadian classics they were 8 bucks. I think they are more now... The premium cigs are like 12$ a pack. You can get 2.5 bottles of Vape juice for that price... ( 12 if you caught the .99 cent sale on killer juice last week). Thats equivalent of about 3 packs, if you heavily vape about 4 ml a day. He also didnt use the vaping technique i expect.

 

[pokemom]

I bought my first ecig 4 maybe even 5 years ago, thinking it would be the easiest switch from smoking to practically quitting.

But as soon as they were delivered and I tried it out, I threw them in a box in the closet very unsatisfied.

About a year later I see the next big thing come out, the eGo, so I order one, try it out, make a mess with the liquids and such, and again, I threw it in the closet after one day.

Then about a year ago I do a little more reasearch and buy an ego c-twist with a tank and wick. And once again , I threw it in storage after day one.

And here I am now, after about $600 wasted , I'm digging it out and charging it up, refilling the tank and trying to get into it, but I just cant. Almost every hit burns my throat, the liquid sometimes leaks into my mouth making me gag and spit, and its a pain to refill the tanks. It really doesn't do it for me like analogs. I really don't know how people can go from a pack a day to ecigs just like that.

JCH - I think that you are asking for too much too soon. I tried vaping 3 different times before I got it to "take" and it was 4 months until I finally decided to get off of cigarettes completely.

The regular e-cigs like Blu or Volcano just didn't produce enough "smoke" for me, and tasted lousy (no matter what flavor I got). I tried for almost 3 months to switch and always went back. Almost a year later, I tried again, to no avail. Then I switched, because 3 people in my office had successfully quit using them, to an ego battery with a vivi nova tank on it (it was actually a named brand set-up, from a specific store but knowing what I know now that was the set up). I got a liquid that was 18 mg (I was a 1 1/2 a pack a day smoker of light cigarrettes) in "original" flavor (which was a light "tobacco") and started to play. At first I just kept it at my desk and hit on it every now and then, slowly I began using it in the car instead of cigarettes. I went back to the shop and played with the flavor bar, talked to the shop and got a liquid that was lower in nicotine, 12 mg. About 4 months later, I was traveling, staying at a no smoking hotel, it was 40 degrees outside and rainy, and I decided to try quitting for the weekend. It worked. I haven't smoked a cigarette since. That was over 14 months ago.

Is it the same, no. Do I miss cigarettes, sometimes. But I breathe better, my clothes no longer smell, and my kids are thrilled.

The journey is not easy, but it can be fun. Experiment. You have a fine battery to start, maybe try a different tank, try a few different liquids with different nicotine levels. It may work, it may not work. But leaving cigarettes behind, IMHO, is worth the trip.

Good luck.


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[Haadkoe]

Sounds to me like the juice wasn't wickng properly, and he was getting dry hits. Those are a major turn off, and if it happens frequently enough I could see them driving away a new vaper... Dry hits and juice in the mouth will have a newb running to the corner store for analogs.