50 watts, 100 watts, 150 watts.... seriously?!?

[KurrptSenate]

I've been vaping at 60-65 watts lately, and it's not enough power to run my preferred coil in dual or quad configuration.

I would need about 100 watts to run dual coil (26 gauge tiger coil with .8 flat ribbon)

 

[zoiDman]

Would not want to be standing nearby when that battery gets a dead short!

Not on Your Life (No Pun Intended).

 

[tj99959]

I've been vaping at 60-65 watts lately, and it's not enough power to run my preferred coil in dual or quad configuration.

I would need about 100 watts to run dual coil (26 gauge tiger coil with .8 flat ribbon)

Why would you want to use your same 3.7v builds on a 150w APV? Along with more watts comes more voltage, and that changes the resistance that would work best.

 

[KurrptSenate]

my device is ran at 6 volts (OKR t10)

I coil it anywhere from .5Ω - .65Ω.

based on these builds, me just slapping another coil in the same device, the ramp-up time would just be too much and the vape wouldn't benefit from it

I'm hoping to have my raptor 120w done soon to accommodate my specific build

if a device is capable of running higher than 6 volts, naturally I would try to find a build that fits the device.

 

[bulldog63h]

I vape mech mods and am just starting to wrap my head around this high power regulated stuff. Here's what I've got so far:

Watts = the amount of heat you put into the atty. This only influences wire temperature and vape temperature if you allow it to (wicking and air flow). Mostly it determines the amount of juice you vaporize per second of hit.

2, 1 ohm coils in parallel on a mech mod = 0.5 ohms which at 3.8 volts (4.2 volts minus voltage drop) makes around 29 watts.

2, 1 ohm coils in series = 2 ohms. This setup has the same coil surface area and mass as the example above and I can set the watts at whatever I want with a regulated mod (within reason). If I set it at 29 watts I should get pretty much the same vape from this 2 ohm regulated build as from a 0.5 ohm mech setup with a fresh battery.

And we thought VV vs VW was interesting

I feel stupid for not knowing this, but how would you build a dual coil in series?

 

[roxynoodle]

Even though I don't see myself ever needing 100w for my builds, having 2 or 3 batteries to extend my vape time between battery changes is nice.

 

[The Torch]

I'm waiting for someone to come out with a 100A Battery.

Then the Real Ultra Low Ohm Limbo can Start.

LOL

I find that a straight wire has very little contact surface . OTOH, it is easier to push a wire through cotton than find the right amount of cotton to push through a coil...

I feel stupid for not knowing this, but how would you build a dual coil in series?

Coil twice on the same wire (see twin coils).... else you'd have to twist one of each coil's end together unless someone came out with an RBA/RDA with a neutral post.

 

[bulldog63h]

I find that a straight wire has very little contact surface . OTOH, it is easier to push a wire through cotton than find the right amount of cotton to push through a coil...



Coil twice on the same wire (see twin coils).... else you'd have to twist one of each coil's end together unless someone came out with an RBA/RDA with a neutral post.

I thought that was it but wasn't sure. You'd think that with my knowledge in automotive electrical I'd know for sure. I guess I just couldn't visualize that in an atomizer. Thanks.

 

[Ryedan]

That sounds about right. Although I keep seeing that scenario mentioned, I'm not completely sure how people would do multicoil setups in series. Every RDA I know of has a single positive post and a varying number of negative posts, so the only way to actually do multi-coil setups is in parallel.

And yea... When you dig into the nuts and bolts of just about any part of vaping gear, it results in some pretty interesting stuff.

Right now I'm running two 1 ohm coils in my Cyclone for a 1/2 ohm setup. Six wraps of 27 gauge Kanthal on a 2mm rod. If I made the same coil with 12 wraps it would be pretty close to two of the first coils in series and would be pretty close to 2 ohms. I've never tried it because I don't have a high power regulated mod to work with so I don't know just how accurate the comparison is. I imagine it might be better to increase the ID of the coil a bit and lose a wrap or two to help with wicking for the longer coil length.

 

[28if]

I am not sure why these companies put R&D time into these things. If you want to carve out your Legend in the vape industry, work on liquid delivery systems.

I can buy a billion watt mod and what, put on a dripper that I have to refill every hit, or a Kayfun ++V12??

Address the real issue why the small BT ecigs will win and we will lose. More people give up vaping because the delivery systems suck - just take a look through the threads....

My opinion, just like the saying, every one has one.

 

[Miguel Miranda]

I think more than 100w is to much...

 

[Steamer861]

Good Point! Bottom feeders address this problem thats why there are gaining in popularity. A bottom feeder assures you always have a wet wick, this is were tanks can fail

I am not sure why these companies put R&D time into these things. If you want to carve out your Legend in the vape industry, work on liquid delivery systems.

I can buy a billion watt mod and what, put on a dripper that I have to refill every hit, or a Kayfun ++V12??

Address the real issue why the small BT ecigs will win and we will lose. More people give up vaping because the delivery systems suck - just take a look through the threads....

My opinion, just like the saying, every one has one.

 

[vojvodic0421]

I read this thread and see lots of people questioning why that much power. I myself started with 15 watts Provari v2.5 and it was plenty until I learned about Hana v3 DNA 30. From there I got into mechanical mods and started building very low. First try at .05 wasn't pleasant but it's our nature to push the limits right. Well 9 months into the vaping, I'm building my own dual parallel 18650 mosfet box mods and I love it where I don't even vape on my tube mods including Authentic Pegasus. I'm getting next 120 watts naos raptor and that should be fun experience. Now, there is one more mod out there that is the most powerful one that I know off and that it can safely exceed 100amp limit. It's called Ares Extreme Modz. It's 300 watts regulated device that runs on Lipo batteries. So I got in mail 2250 max amp rated at 100C which should be 225 continuous amps. Am I going to vape it constantly at 300 watts? Well no, but you know damn right I will try it and gradually reach that power as my lungs accommodate. Vape on peeps and let me know when more powerful mod arrives

 

[Racehorse]

I have a 50W mod. And it's perfect for me. I pre-ordered the 150w not because of the 150 watts, but because of dual 18650s.

I'm sure lots o people want that longer battery power. But that would make a very heavy mod IMHO so many won't want one