510 is a very generic term. There are a number of manufacturers out there making semi-clones. They all vape/behave differently.
510 atomizer dead in a week?
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Try making new cartridges, the PTB mod is very cheap, you can get 80 filler pieces out of a $5 20-pack of Lipton Pyramid Tea Bags. Every single one I make performs differently.
Dripping is a great way to go imho - but only one or two drops on a 510. Up to 4 on an 801- more if you're confident. 
The problem with ptb if getting the thickness right so it does not flood.
I like the blue foam MUCH better. If you are against the blue foam for whatever reason,
try using Kristin's ptb method with a straw. Just cut a straw a little smaller than the length of the cart and push it all the way down with tweezers. Lay the flat open piece pf ptb on top and push it all the way down with the tweezers. Cut off any excess ptb. Spread it evenly with the tweezers inside the cart. It is much easier to make and take out to clean, and seems to work better.
I like the blue foam MUCH better. If you are against the blue foam for whatever reason,
try using Kristin's ptb method with a straw. Just cut a straw a little smaller than the length of the cart and push it all the way down with tweezers. Lay the flat open piece pf ptb on top and push it all the way down with the tweezers. Cut off any excess ptb. Spread it evenly with the tweezers inside the cart. It is much easier to make and take out to clean, and seems to work better.
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You need to review some of the mods my friend The PTB is on Version 6 or 7. Although the BFM has taken the vaping scene by storm, a 1/4 plug is a 1/4 plug, well at least the video I have seen.
IMHO anything you place in a cart will take up valuable space. Can we agree on that? Therefore the whole object is to provide free flowing, no drip or flooding of the atty. I have been using the HighPing mod with great success using the polyfill from the carts. Each cart gives me 4 pieces that I use flat, vice longitudinal (you have to look at the material) I lay it against the grain so to speak. Wicks like a charm, no leaks and the cart holds 15 drops of juice, between refils. The plug is only about an 1/8-3/16 thick Keeping in mind that teh atty's bridge pushes the plug about a 1/16 of an inch when seated, further removing valuable space.
You need to review some of the mods my friend
The PTB is on Version 6 or 7. Although the BFM has taken the vaping scene by storm, a 1/4 plug is a 1/4 plug, well at least the video I have seen.IMHO anything you place in a cart will take up valuable space. Can we agree on that? Therefore the whole object is to provide free flowing, no drip or flooding of the atty. I have been using the HighPing mod with great success using the polyfill from the carts. Each cart gives me 4 pieces that I use flat, vice longitudinal (you have to look at the material) I lay it against the grain so to speak. Wicks like a charm, no leaks and the cart holds 15 drops of juice, between refils. The plug is only about an 1/8-3/16 thick
Keeping in mind that teh atty's bridge pushes the plug about a 1/16 of an inch when seated, further removing valuable space.one problem could be the mesh sticking up too high. if you fill your cart and put it on the atty it squishes the juice out of the filler. if you put a small wad of filler right at the very top of the cart and put it on your atty you can see how deep it pushes the filler up. they can be very inconsistent. if it's too tall it can be pushed down some. i use a cheap chopstick. as long as you don't force the bridge(different than the mesh) you should be okay.
I keep killing my 901 Attys somehow and I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I have tons laying around and have tried all sorts of methods to clean them and bring them back to life and nada =( Anybody know anything about this?
After all I have read in my short time vaping, only the odd atty is DOA. Some last longer than others - that is also a given. OTOH most atty failures are caused by improper use by the user:
I am not prepared to re-write everything that has been written and available in the "primer" threads on this site. But the information is there nonetheless.
It is indeed frustrating that equipment doesn't perform to our expectations. This is further exacerbated with the fact that we are having nicotine fits, which clouds our judgement and only amplifies the problem.
However, there was an old saying "You get what you pay for", that is absolutely true when it comes to vaping. Now I am not about to blow sunshine up your butts wrt vendors, but shopping in the bargain basement produce mediocre results at best. You need to shop around to filter out the vendors with high mark ups and dismiss them. I have seen mark ups as high as 1200% and as low as 10-20% comparatively speaking. On the other hand if the deal is too good to be true, then it probably is.
Someone said they should make a decent atty that lasts, they do it is called the JoyE 510 atty, stock 510 or LS1. The LS2 is a knock off. Expect to pay around $10 for an original. Buying in bulk drastically reduces the price, but expect paying around $7 for an original. Cheaper than that you are buying whole sale or buying clones.
Good attys are ready to go out of the box. The primer some folks refer to that is used to keep the atties moist is PG, nothing else. Since PG has a 2 year shelf life, it starts to deteriorate after that period, producing that chemical taste that some refer to. It is very difficult to get rid of. I have not had an atty that had a chemical taste, but I do know first hand what expired PG tastes like.
When you have found suppliers that deliver a product you are satisfied with. stick with them. I order from very few.
Before jumping on any bad wagon, sleep on it, allow the fanfare to move on and then do your research into it. You'll be happy you did. Do you know the difference between a Screwdriver and the DSE 905? they look nearly identical, yet there is a $40-50 difference. Mind you some are selling the knock offs (DSE 905) for the same price as the "real" screwdriver. Why is one better than the other?
Many folks have reported liquid that had a chemical taste form supplier X, Y or Z. That liquid often bought at bargain basement prices is liquid that has staretd to break down or is expired. It is my understanding that nicotine does not have a shelf life perse, but PG and VG do. 2 years and 18-24 months respectively. There is nothing wrong with buying liquid nearing it's expiration date, just don't hoard the stuff, and should any liquid give off a chemical taste, get rid of it. The PG or VG has started to break down.
There is a reason prices are what they are. It is free enterprise and one needs to carefully do their research into the subejct. Reputable vendors are in it for the long haul. Their prices are reasonable and sustainable. They prefer to sell steady at a reasonable price vice making the quick buck (with sub par material) and exiting the market rapidly once word gets out on their product, or sales decline.
Reputable vendors mix their liquid as they go, or in "known" market quanties based on consumer demand, for X period of time. They do not sell liquid that is nearing expiration or has expired. They also play the fine line. They only order enough supply to meet consumer demand, ensuring freshness and safety.
This reply was a little off topic and I apologize. It was done as there were just too many variables as to why attys do not perform, or die rapidly. As seen it is was not an isolated incident, but more often than not a series of events that have lead to their pre-mature failures.
In closing, you very much get what you pay for. Shop around!
- allowing the atty to go dry;
- not priming the atty with 1-2 drops when replacing the cart. If you allow the last drop to pool when filling the cart, then you do not need to prime it, as the primer is the "pooled" drop;
- using high sugared liquids;
- using liquids with high concentrations of VG;
- marathon vaping - allowing the atty to get too hot and not allowing it the opportunity to cool between hits. If we hit on an atty the same way we puffed on a cig, half the problems would be avoided. How many folks took triple drags off an analog. Do you rememeber the heat generated and the tasteless flavour generated by the long "heaters". We used to get ...... off at folks that used to put a heater on our cigs - yet allot of vapers are actually doing the same thing - but on anatty;
- not cleaning out their atties periodically - even when smoking you had to empty the ashtray once in a while;
- improperly done "dry burns" or done for the wrong reason;
- using the wrong atty battery combination. e.g a normal atty on HV devices;
- not topping off the cart because it is a pain and sucking the cart dry. Most want that last drop. Carts should be topped off after each session, or before each session. Think of it as pulling a fresh analog out of the pack;
- weekly maintenance not carried out; and
- not knowinjg the performance characteristics of different atties and treating them all the same. An 801 does not perform like a 901 or a 510 for that matter. They each have their vaping characteristics, and should be used in their sweet spot for maximum enjoyment.
I am not prepared to re-write everything that has been written and available in the "primer" threads on this site. But the information is there nonetheless.
It is indeed frustrating that equipment doesn't perform to our expectations. This is further exacerbated with the fact that we are having nicotine fits, which clouds our judgement and only amplifies the problem.
However, there was an old saying "You get what you pay for", that is absolutely true when it comes to vaping. Now I am not about to blow sunshine up your butts wrt vendors, but shopping in the bargain basement produce mediocre results at best. You need to shop around to filter out the vendors with high mark ups and dismiss them. I have seen mark ups as high as 1200% and as low as 10-20% comparatively speaking. On the other hand if the deal is too good to be true, then it probably is.
Someone said they should make a decent atty that lasts, they do it is called the JoyE 510 atty, stock 510 or LS1. The LS2 is a knock off. Expect to pay around $10 for an original. Buying in bulk drastically reduces the price, but expect paying around $7 for an original. Cheaper than that you are buying whole sale or buying clones.
Good attys are ready to go out of the box. The primer some folks refer to that is used to keep the atties moist is PG, nothing else. Since PG has a 2 year shelf life, it starts to deteriorate after that period, producing that chemical taste that some refer to. It is very difficult to get rid of. I have not had an atty that had a chemical taste, but I do know first hand what expired PG tastes like.
When you have found suppliers that deliver a product you are satisfied with. stick with them. I order from very few.
Before jumping on any bad wagon, sleep on it, allow the fanfare to move on and then do your research into it. You'll be happy you did. Do you know the difference between a Screwdriver and the DSE 905? they look nearly identical, yet there is a $40-50 difference. Mind you some are selling the knock offs (DSE 905) for the same price as the "real" screwdriver. Why is one better than the other?
Many folks have reported liquid that had a chemical taste form supplier X, Y or Z. That liquid often bought at bargain basement prices is liquid that has staretd to break down or is expired. It is my understanding that nicotine does not have a shelf life perse, but PG and VG do. 2 years and 18-24 months respectively. There is nothing wrong with buying liquid nearing it's expiration date, just don't hoard the stuff, and should any liquid give off a chemical taste, get rid of it. The PG or VG has started to break down.
There is a reason prices are what they are. It is free enterprise and one needs to carefully do their research into the subejct. Reputable vendors are in it for the long haul. Their prices are reasonable and sustainable. They prefer to sell steady at a reasonable price vice making the quick buck (with sub par material) and exiting the market rapidly once word gets out on their product, or sales decline.
Reputable vendors mix their liquid as they go, or in "known" market quanties based on consumer demand, for X period of time. They do not sell liquid that is nearing expiration or has expired. They also play the fine line. They only order enough supply to meet consumer demand, ensuring freshness and safety.
This reply was a little off topic and I apologize. It was done as there were just too many variables as to why attys do not perform, or die rapidly. As seen it is was not an isolated incident, but more often than not a series of events that have lead to their pre-mature failures.
In closing, you very much get what you pay for. Shop around!
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I'd say that 90% of my 510 atomizers die within a week. I've yet to have one last more than two weeks. I'm definitely a chain vaper, pretty much the only time I'm not vaping is when I'm eating or sleeping. My primary device is a Steampunk Sparkplug with a 510 adapter. I generally change batteries (16340) three to four times a day.
They don't usually just die completely, but vapor production drops off significantly. Cleaning will sometimes (25%) give it another couple of days of good vapor, but then it dies off again. But often cleaning doesn't seem to do anything at all.
All of my atomizers have been multipacks from Totally Wicked.
Is there another supplier with better atomizers? Or is this pretty much what I can expect considering how much I use it?
They don't usually just die completely, but vapor production drops off significantly. Cleaning will sometimes (25%) give it another couple of days of good vapor, but then it dies off again. But often cleaning doesn't seem to do anything at all.
All of my atomizers have been multipacks from Totally Wicked.
Is there another supplier with better atomizers? Or is this pretty much what I can expect considering how much I use it?
Which atomizers do you receive? 1st or 2nd pic?
Edit: Either your batteries are weak or you are vaping at a rate of 3-4 days per day. In other words a month worth in a week. All kidding aside how long do you think your toaster would last if you made toast all day long?
I was a pack a day (25) smoker and consider I vape quite a bit. My eGo battery (650 mah) lasts me 10-12 hrs.
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All of my atomizers have been of the first type. I fully admit that I vape a lot... I'm just trying to figure out if I should be expecting a longer life from my atomizers. Even if I need to buy one a week, it's still cheaper than the money I was spending on analogs. I'll just need to start ordering in bulk to save on shipping.
I use 10-18mg, higher levels give me a headache and nausea after a few hours. I enjoy the act of vaping, it relaxes me as much as the nic does.
I used to smoke about a pack and a half of cloves (Djarum Specials) a day. I switched over to e-cigs when they stopped selling cloves back in Oct.
Red Dog,...have you tried JC's Red Oak Mercado? I have a friend who used to smoke Djarum Specials and he loves this juice!
I've been mostly ordering from DIY Flavor Shack. But I'll look into that one.
Early on in my vaping I was tearing thru atomizers every few weeks. With my two Dura-C's they have atomizers of 4 and 8 months respectively on them and haven't experienced any substantial drop off in vapor production from the first day. The oldest is pre-TAWA availability but the newer one is a TAWA.
I used to use a much larger assortment of devices early on and about 6 months into vaping and maybe 10 atomizers later I discovered the most important life extender for the atomizers is to make sure its ALWAYS moist, regardless of the model. If it 'burns' the 'wick' at all, it seems to substantially reduce the lifespan. Of course, I doubt any sort of preventive maintenance can make up for shoddy/cheap workmanship/materials.
I probably keep my atomizers over-saturated these days, but haven't replaced one in a long time and I can be a heavy vaper at certain times.
I used to use a much larger assortment of devices early on and about 6 months into vaping and maybe 10 atomizers later I discovered the most important life extender for the atomizers is to make sure its ALWAYS moist, regardless of the model. If it 'burns' the 'wick' at all, it seems to substantially reduce the lifespan. Of course, I doubt any sort of preventive maintenance can make up for shoddy/cheap workmanship/materials.
I probably keep my atomizers over-saturated these days, but haven't replaced one in a long time and I can be a heavy vaper at certain times.
I tend to top off my cartridges every 30 to 60 minutes. They still die on me in a week. Maybe it's because I like to hit it for 5 to 7 seconds at a time, 3 or 4 times per minute for hours at a time...
I had the same problem with my last two atties, only i drip-no carts, so it takes that out of the equation, at least for me. I tossed them and bought a new one from a different vendor. so far so good, but its only been 2 days!
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