510 passthrough

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Kurt

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Hi, I'm just wondering if someone knows how this thing works, I would like to know if the battery inside (10440) charges while being connected to the usb port. If so, how would I know when its fully charged?????

thanks

As far as I know you can only tell by the vapor quality. I've found they need overnight to charge, but I'm having problems with my 510 PTs. They all stopped working, and until I get my order of 10440 batteries in, I won't know whether the PT itself fried or the batts lost their ability to recharge. Hoping for the later, but if it is the PTs, then I'm getting a Bartleby.
 

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I have a PT for my 510 and used it on my desktop computer and the monitor USB ports. It would work for a while then just quit and then start again for a short time. I thought the PT was bad until I plugged it into an AC USB adapter. This works just great and because it has a red or green light on it I can see when it is charged. The 510 runs off of the battery and the USB plug charges the battery. My battery was dead because it wasn't getting charged properly off my computer or monitor. Now all is well and I will use an AC charger all the time.
Here is a cheap one; USB Power Adapter
 

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I have a PT for my 510 and used it on my desktop computer and the monitor USB ports. It would work for a while then just quit and then start again for a short time. I thought the PT was bad until I plugged it into an AC USB adapter. This works just great and because it has a red or green light on it I can see when it is charged. The 510 runs off of the battery and the USB plug charges the battery. My battery was dead because it wasn't getting charged properly off my computer or monitor. Now all is well and I will use an AC charger all the time.
Here is a cheap one; USB Power Adapter

I did this too, although my AC-to-USB-5V does not have a light. I also have an external powered USB hub. Tried leaving them plugged in overnight, but no go. This was the case with all of them, and also switching the 10440s I had between them. The only thing I could conclude was all the batteries were dead. One would work sort of for a puff or two and then go dead. When they worked I pushed them very hard, so they may have just used up their charging abilities.

BTW I also had for a while the same AC adapter you linked here, but the light went out completely, and at the time I concluded that this little $2 unit had died. For $2 I got more than my money's worth, but I felt it best to try a $30 Radio Shack variable voltage unit, so I could try higher voltages later if I wanted to do modding.

Until then I have plenty of mega and regular batts and a charger, so I am ok until the batts come. I almost hope it is the PTs and not the batts so I have an excuse to pony up $50 for the Bart. :D Oh the excuses we come up with...
 

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Another thing to consider is the fact that some of these people having these problems might simply have a defective passthrough. Joye has some serious quality control issues with the 510 USB PT, and it's a pretty common occurrence for one to simply crap out on a user. In fact, one of the vendors I shop at, Rocky Mountain Vapor, is about to stop carrying the Passthroughs, because they spend too much time and money processing defective returns.
 

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I've been using the 510 PT for a couple weeks on the continuous. Plugged in to PC's USB port or AC adapter or unplugged. I kinda pump the battery casing around some. So the first time I notice a power decline. I reseted the battery. That seem to work. A few days later I lost continuity completely. Okay something craped out.? Maybe the battery.. So I took the battery out n took a piece of wire n shorted the battery out. One end of wire to neg n tap the other end to pos a few times. The put it back in. That did the trick. Haven't had prob since. Although I did buy some back up batteries
 

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I've been using the 510 PT for a couple weeks on the continuous. Plugged in to PC's USB port or AC adapter or unplugged. I kinda pump the battery casing around some. So the first time I notice a power decline. I reseted the battery. That seem to work. A few days later I lost continuity completely. Okay something craped out.? Maybe the battery.. So I took the battery out n took a piece of wire n shorted the battery out. One end of wire to neg n tap the other end to pos a few times. The put it back in. That did the trick. Haven't had prob since. Although I did buy some back up batteries

Hmm, sort of like the shorting jarred the battery back to life. I'll try that with my "dead" ones, but like you I've already ordered several 10440s from DX. I guess for my PTs another thing to do would be to test the voltage of the PT. Just so odd that all 5 PTs would die, and so would all 5 batteries, some of which were not used at all. It all bodes ill for the 510 PT in general, which is really too bad because when they work, they are pretty good.
 

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I have the Janty PT for use with Dura-C or the Joye510 and it works like a champ when plugged into my computer USB, AC/USB, or my USB/AC inverter for my car. It even works for about 1/2 hour on the battery with no power source, great for emergencies if you are carrying it with you. No problems here...but I am very gentle with it as the wires seem pretty flimsy.
 

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when its plugged in are you at full power (and can remove batt), or does it just run off of the battey, and you plug to charge batt?

The USB power charges the batt only. The atty is then powered by the batt, which runs down a bit, and the usb charges it back up. Eventually you have to just let it sit overnight to fully recharge. Fully charged, you can unplug it and vape on it for a few hours, since the stock batts are around 350 mAh. Compare that to the standard 510 batt, which is 180 mAh, or the mega batt which is 280 mAh. You can get 10440 batts for the PT that claim 600 mAh, but they are generally 400 mAh or less, the label is wrong. This is not a ripoff, as most vendors of said batts are up front about this.
 

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can you get protected batts for this?

Yes, but it seems the protection circuitry adds some length, making some not fix in the batt box, and the added protection may cause more issues than it is trying to protect against. The stock batts are generally not protected. Here are links for getting 10440s:

trustfire protected 10440 "600mah" rechargeable lithium-ion batteries 2 PCS 3.7v

DealExtreme: $4.23 Ultra Fire 10440 3.6V 500mAh 2Pack

I have several dealextreme (unprotected) ones on order, so we'll see how they do. Neither are the advertised mAh, from what I understand, but somewhat less according to the dealers. All the ones I had that came with 510 PTs are dead, and either cannot be charged anymore, or the PTs don't charge them anymore. So I'm seeing how new ones do, hopefully will be able to have PTs again! If not, I'm buying a Bart or some other mod.
 

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Yes, but it seems the protection circuitry adds some length, making some not fix in the batt box, and the added protection may cause more issues than it is trying to protect against. The stock batts are generally not protected. Here are links for getting 10440s:

trustfire protected 10440 "600mah" rechargeable lithium-ion batteries 2 PCS 3.7v

DealExtreme: $4.23 Ultra Fire 10440 3.6V 500mAh 2Pack

I have several dealextreme (unprotected) ones on order, so we'll see how they do. Neither are the advertised mAh, from what I understand, but somewhat less according to the dealers. All the ones I had that came with 510 PTs are dead, and either cannot be charged anymore, or the PTs don't charge them anymore. So I'm seeing how new ones do, hopefully will be able to have PTs again! If not, I'm buying a Bart or some other mod.


I bought the 510joye PT. I can use my protege charger to charge these batts, which is what I plan to do to help prevent overcharging.

this is now my only backup peice.

I plan on getting some of those batts from deal xtreme.

Let me know if they work out for you.
 

Kurt

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I bought the 510joye PT. I can use my protege charger to charge these batts, which is what I plan to do to help prevent overcharging.

this is now my only backup peice.

I plan on getting some of those batts from deal xtreme.

Let me know if they work out for you.

Ya, I ordered a charger too. Not sure what happened to those 5 PTs, but some of them lasted for months, so I have to think that the batteries are not getting over charged somehow, as this would have happened right away it seems. Its too bad ordering from China takes so long...I promised myself I wouldn't fork out more money for a Bart until I was sure these batts didn't help. Hopefully this week...:p
 

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I use my PT when I am at home or when I take my laptop with me somewhere. It has always worked great for me. The 510's major drawback is the battery life. The PT really fixes this problem. Reading some of the other posts it seems that people have had trouble with theres I have had no such technical problems with mine. I plug mine into the usb port and dont have to worry anymore about a new battery this combined with the pcc makes things much easier.
 

Kurt

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I use my PT when I am at home or when I take my laptop with me somewhere. It has always worked great for me. The 510's major drawback is the battery life. The PT really fixes this problem. Reading some of the other posts it seems that people have had trouble with theres I have had no such technical problems with mine. I plug mine into the usb port and dont have to worry anymore about a new battery this combined with the pcc makes things much easier.

I am getting the impression based on much reading about the 510 PT that at least some of the issues with it stem from shotty wiring to the batt box. If this is the case, then it makes sense that there would be two polarized camps: those that have great success, and those that have PTs that die suddenly "without reason". If this is the case with mine, then the batts I ordered (still not here!) will not help, but a soldering iron might! Stay tuned...
 
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