510 vs smokeing everywhere

[P3rplexity]

Alright, everyone out there, DO NOT buy FROM SMOKING EVERYWHERE!!!

They are a down right fraud, their product is over priced, their customer support is the worst I've ever dealt with (not just in the e-cig business, in ANY business.)

They say 14 day trial right? HA! They mean 14 days from the time you order it, not mentioning the fact that it takes a month to get to you because they have to "confirm" your address, yet they don't try to contact you till about 10 days from ordering, then it takes another 7-10 days to get to you, by the time you get the package, your 14 day trial is up and they bill you another 100 bucks. I had to spend over 3 weeks to get my refund, and it didn't come easily, if not for my classes in law I wouldn't have been able to articulately threaten them with a lawsuit. So I'm one of the lucky few that got my money back, but I've read soooo many other posts about new users getting suckered in for $115 for their POS product.

For much cheaper you can get many other devices which work a hell of alot better than the crap they are peddling over there.

 

[IANAN]

Look around... all the X day trials are a fraud. They hide the details in fine print and legalese-- but you end up paying them a monthly fee after the 15 days are up unless you cancel, and all of them make it oh so easy to cancel. This doesn't even get into the fact that a percentage of people will not cancel, even if they are unsatisfied with the product/service.

Anyhow their tobacco flavored carts, although expensive, have a decent taste. Just purchase from a Kiosk.

Their product is compatible with other RN 4081 devices (NJoy NPro, Smokes 51 Trio, TW Super Mini,Pee-Wee, ETC ETC) and can be fitted with a DSE 103 Atomizer (DSE 103 pre-filled carts can be bought at 50 carts for around 20 bucks- mostly from Chinese stores) and the quality seems lower than other styles of 4081s....

As far as being over priced- You can purchase a generic RN 4081 or DSE 103 kit for less than $30.00 (And it comes with 2 bats), NJoy-NPro kits run about $50-70 (Depends on where you buy them- and it comes with 2 bats), TW kits for $69 (with 2 bats) all the while their SE Gold kit costs $99.00 and read the product contents (Only 1 bat instead of 2)....

The RN 4081 also probably isn't the best kit to start on also---

The advantages to the 4081 kits are; 1. Inexpensive replacement parts (If you look around), 2. rugged atomizers (They can take quite a bit of abuse), 3. Local availability for parts and carts (In a pinch you can buy carts and parts from gas stations or mall kiosks), 4. Relative good battery life for the size of bat, 5. Relative ease in self refilling carts and dripping, and 6. If used optimally can produce a fair amount of vapror.

The cons to them are; 1. Carts only hold a max of 100 mouthfulls (That is totally topped off) but a more realistic 60 (Or less) useful draws is more common (If you smoke down to the filter you are taking 10-15 draws off your traditional cig- that means you only get 4 - to a max of 10 cigs per cart), 2. battery life is about 2 carts (With a DSE 103 bat 3 carts), 3. They can be a bit hard to use optimally (There is a learning curve) and most starter kit instruction guides don't do a good enough job describing how to use them, 4. Size- They are almost the size and diameter of a regular cig-- The 8084 and E8/V8 are the actual size of a regular cig (effects how you carry them around), and 5. Cost of pre-filled carts- It can cost you more to vape using pre-filled carts than to smoke (If you are purchasing smokes by the carton).

 

[ladysolitary85]

I just bought the "Smoking Everywhere - Gold Edition" e-cig in the mall 3 days ago.... my guy has the one that typically looks like a cig, mine is the pink one.... only because we wanted to tell who's was who's I would of rathered red or black.... but anyways my only problem with it is this is day 3 and I switched cartridges, it seems like I have to take a hard hit to get a enjoyable puff, and I noticed last night there was juice leaking from it somehow on the outside. My cartridges are pre-filled I don't understand whats wrong! I keep wiping it but it comes back... is this normal? my fingers also feels as if I burnt myself after touching the liquid (not on purpose obviously) my guy seems satisfied with his but doesn't have the same problem. My cartridge is high level if that helps any.

I was so proud of only having one cigarette yesterday but today I was having a huge nictitine fit because I didn't know if I should leave the e-cig alone or what. I'm a newbie this is my first e-cig.

 

[Wakadoo]

I just bought the "Smoking Everywhere - Gold Edition" e-cig in the mall 3 days ago.... my guy has the one that typically looks like a cig, mine is the pink one.... only because we wanted to tell who's was who's I would of rathered red or black.... but anyways my only problem with it is this is day 3 and I switched cartridges, it seems like I have to take a hard hit to get a enjoyable puff, and I noticed last night there was juice leaking from it somehow on the outside. My cartridges are pre-filled I don't understand whats wrong! I keep wiping it but it comes back... is this normal? my fingers also feels as if I burnt myself after touching the liquid (not on purpose obviously) my guy seems satisfied with his but doesn't have the same problem. My cartridge is high level if that helps any.

I was so proud of only having one cigarette yesterday but today I was having a huge nictitine fit because I didn't know if I should leave the e-cig alone or what. I'm a newbie this is my first e-cig.

You'll go through `wanting an analog` but it'll pass. . I myself had a smoking everywhere cig that was complete crap. I used it for an entire 2 days and got so frustrated with the battery life, the constant seeping of juice, and overall low performance of it. I didn't even bother going back to them about it because I knew it was a waste of time although others have had better luck. Best advice I can offer is go with a Joye 510. The things are workhorses. I'm still using the same atomizer for the past 2 months and I love it. The battery life on the 510's isn't all that great depending on how much you smoke but the batteries charge pretty quickly and with a PCC you're good to go.

 

[danielwd]

I just bought the "Smoking Everywhere - Gold Edition" e-cig in the mall 3 days ago.... my guy has the one that typically looks like a cig, mine is the pink one.... only because we wanted to tell who's was who's I would of rathered red or black.... but anyways my only problem with it is this is day 3 and I switched cartridges, it seems like I have to take a hard hit to get a enjoyable puff, and I noticed last night there was juice leaking from it somehow on the outside. My cartridges are pre-filled I don't understand whats wrong! I keep wiping it but it comes back... is this normal? my fingers also feels as if I burnt myself after touching the liquid (not on purpose obviously) my guy seems satisfied with his but doesn't have the same problem. My cartridge is high level if that helps any.

I was so proud of only having one cigarette yesterday but today I was having a huge nictitine fit because I didn't know if I should leave the e-cig alone or what. I'm a newbie this is my first e-cig.

I did the same...and regretably so. I do enjoy the SE Gold, but I killed the atomizer playing around with it because it gave me a burnt metal taste. I plan on picking up a new atty from Heaven's Gifts - they are only 7.00.

I would take Wakadoo's advice above and get a JOYE 510. It is much better and less tempermental. If you are having to "puff hard" to draw on the SE Gold, read in another thread where I advice to manipulate one of the airholes by covering with tape. That technique makes the SE Gold produce close to the same vapor as the JOYE 510.

 

[IANAN]

Heaven gifts sells the atomizers for the RN4081 for 5.50 -- Would absolutely recommend doing business with these guys- but keep in mind they are in China and give it a weak and a half for it to ship.

Tipping the e-cig up when inhaling will cause fluid to leak back into the mouth piece. Pop the cap off the cartridge and swab it out with a q-tip and then replace the mouthpiece cap. Like I said-- learning curve with this model.

Placing your thumb over one of the air holes will also do the trick- if you don't want to use tape.

 

[ladysolitary85]

I've tried the covering the holes trick with the SE Gold. Here's another issue I'm having with it.... when I start a fresh cartridge, it gives me a decent few puffs, but once the day ends The flavor is weak and I'm not sure if its because its already out and needs juice or not. I don't really understand HOW it would be out when I take 4 puffs at a time then wait a few hours later to try again (unlike analog, I would say I take about... 20 or so puffs, mind you I haven't counted yet, but still) can I actually use a e-cig like I would (inhaling/number of puffs wise) like I would with an analog? Or is it just that; few puffs, atomizer warm, done deal?

 

[IANAN]

You should expect about 60 puffs (Or less) from a full regular RN 4081 cartridge. They do sell double carts though. The battery should last 120 (Or less puffs) on a full charge - I get closer to 80 or so.

There are 10-15 puffs in a traditional cigarette depending on how hard you draw.

As the cart runs out of fluid and the battery runs down you will get less puffs.

Don't believe the advertising claims -- a 4081 cart is 4-6 cigs.

I run through 4 bats and 5 carts a day.

Get yourself some tasty e-juice and refill your carts for about 30 cents each.

 

[ladysolitary85]

You should expect about 60 puffs (Or less) from a full regular RN 4081 cartridge. They do sell double carts though. The battery should last 120 (Or less puffs) on a full charge - I get closer to 80 or so.

There are 10-15 puffs in a traditional cigarette depending on how hard you draw.

As the cart runs out of fluid and the battery runs down you will get less puffs.

Don't believe the advertising claims -- a 4081 cart is 4-6 cigs.

I run through 4 bats and 5 carts a day.

Get yourself some tasty e-juice and refill your carts for about 30 cents each.

Thank's Ianan for the heads up. My e-cig cart last me a day a day in a half each, but again thats 2 or 4 puffs at a time. I definitely want to find some good e-juice, recommand any places to get them?

 

[IANAN]

I am partial to E-Cig.com's 24 mg Rose Juice (Only company I know that sells pre-made rose juice) .... that's me though... it's an acquired taste. E-cig is based out of China... last shipment from them spent 3 days in US customs (15 day total from order to ship- not bad for a shipment from China).... In other-words may want to find a US Vendor...



E-Liquid reviews from various vendors can be found here;

E-Liquid Reviews - e-cigarette-forum.com • The place for electronic cigarette reviews, news and chat

I have bought hardware from Heavens Gift... these guys are good... They also sell liquid. If you buy from them pick up a DSE 103 Bat and a few spare RN4081 atomizers (It produces a wicked amount of vape when you mix the two)..

Anyhow with a fresh battery and self filled (and topped off cart) the RN 4081 produces quite a bit of vapor.

 

[awf40]

I just have to post this lol!! I had a problem with these guys cancelling my order.. Well after not being able to get ahold of them, so had to go only by email as I could not get anybody by phone... Left them nasty messages.. It just gets to the point where u had enough.. So had my cc company reverse my charges of 99.02.. So the only thing that I thought I was going to lose was my 9.95.. Also I did finally get the kit in the mail well after I cancelled & sent it right back to them without opening it. Well guess what!! Got 2 emails from them on the 29 of Oct. They said they were going credit me back my 99.02 & the 9.95 on my credit card.. Well they did just the other day LOL.. So now I am 99.02 to the good. Wow now I have 99.02 extra... Can u believe that!!! WoW!!

 

[ladysolitary85]

I just have to post this lol!! I had a problem with these guys cancelling my order.. Well after not being able to get ahold of them, so had to go only by email as I could not get anybody by phone... Left them nasty messages.. It just gets to the point where u had enough.. So had my cc company reverse my charges of 99.02.. So the only thing that I thought I was going to lose was my 9.95.. Also I did finally get the kit in the mail well after I cancelled & sent it right back to them without opening it. Well guess what!! Got 2 emails from them on the 29 of Oct. They said they were going credit me back my 99.02 & the 9.95 on my credit card.. Well they did just the other day LOL.. So now I am 99.02 to the good. Wow now I have 99.02 extra... Can u believe that!!! WoW!!

lol wow you got lucky there

 

[smkgdfrnt1952]

Hi everyone, I am two months into my e-cigs and down to one or two analogs a day from two PACKS a day for 40 years. Seriously, I tried patches, pills, Smokenders, hynosis you name it. I NEVER thought I would be able to quit smoking cigarettes and tomorrow I pull the plug completely--I actually enjoy vaping BETTER than smoking now. As to types, I first bought a RN4081 "super mini" type and loved it--until I realized I was charging batteries every 2-3 hours at most, and cartridges had to be filled way too often. Then bought a classic pen style DSE 801 and love it--so my wife takes one of the two I got. Figures lol! Just ordered a 510 set with extra atty and battery--yes the atomizer wears out the fastest--1month two 3-4 months if you don't get them too hot. A lot of the starter sets are now available for under $30 for the Joye 510 in the China stores. I got two complete pen styles there for $36.88 with FREE SHIPPING. The free shipping does take 2-3 weeks to get to you, they tell you that up front, or of course you can pay the expensive UPS or FEDEX charges. The reason I ordered the 510 is the mini was not good enough for someone who has really decided they like to vape (most ppl who try it seem to) and it was just the right size and power of battery was good, good atomizers from what I hear and not as clumsy as the pen style to go out. I also BTW ordered a couple of atomizers for the pens, and plenty of really great e-juice from a US made supplier called Johnson Creek in Wisconsin. They all come in glass bottles, they give you a glass eyedropper, and the juice is pure and made in the USA by them. I highly recommend them. The juice in my opinion is as important almost as the hardware, it will ultimately determine the taste and the volume of vapor. Many ppl, myself included, have made the mistake of not ordering enough juice when they first start. It stinks when you quit smoking only to run out of juice! Hope some of this helps!

Larry

 

[hunter84]

901 is way to go

 

[ladysolitary85]

Hi everyone, I am two months into my e-cigs and down to one or two analogs a day from two PACKS a day for 40 years. Seriously, I tried patches, pills, Smokenders, hynosis you name it. I NEVER thought I would be able to quit smoking cigarettes and tomorrow I pull the plug completely--I actually enjoy vaping BETTER than smoking now. As to types, I first bought a RN4081 "super mini" type and loved it--until I realized I was charging batteries every 2-3 hours at most, and cartridges had to be filled way too often. Then bought a classic pen style DSE 801 and love it--so my wife takes one of the two I got. Figures lol! Just ordered a 510 set with extra atty and battery--yes the atomizer wears out the fastest--1month two 3-4 months if you don't get them too hot. A lot of the starter sets are now available for under $30 for the Joye 510 in the China stores. I got two complete pen styles there for $36.88 with FREE SHIPPING. The free shipping does take 2-3 weeks to get to you, they tell you that up front, or of course you can pay the expensive UPS or FEDEX charges. The reason I ordered the 510 is the mini was not good enough for someone who has really decided they like to vape (most ppl who try it seem to) and it was just the right size and power of battery was good, good atomizers from what I hear and not as clumsy as the pen style to go out. I also BTW ordered a couple of atomizers for the pens, and plenty of really great e-juice from a US made supplier called Johnson Creek in Wisconsin. They all come in glass bottles, they give you a glass eyedropper, and the juice is pure and made in the USA by them. I highly recommend them. The juice in my opinion is as important almost as the hardware, it will ultimately determine the taste and the volume of vapor. Many ppl, myself included, have made the mistake of not ordering enough juice when they first start. It stinks when you quit smoking only to run out of juice! Hope some of this helps!

Larry

That's great Larry! Congrats on tossing the yucky analogs! I'm still trying to toss away mine... freakin $6 for a pack! I bout **** myself!

It's baby steps I keep telling myself that.

 

[smkgdfrnt1952]

That's great Larry! Congrats on tossing the yucky analogs! I'm still trying to toss away mine... freakin $6 for a pack! I bout **** myself!

It's baby steps I keep telling myself that.

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Hi Ladysolitary!

I am very happy to hear that you are trying to lose the tobacco habit, good for you!! And yep, if baby steps is right for you, then that is the way you should do it.

This is how I went about it (not saying one thing works for everybody though). The first thing I found out after doing serious research on vaping (a lot on this site) is that the amount of nicotine absorbed by the body is actually far less with e-cigs than with analogs. That is even with high strength liquid, so in the beginning I used high strength nicotine, puffed as much as I needed and put no limits on cigarettes on myself, I didn't want the pressure of worrying about failure--again.

I just made sure all my batteries were fully charged when I went to bed, (that is why I recommend extra batteries) so I wouldn't have to worry about them running out the next day. I kept my regular cigs in a drawer in another room--out of sight out of mind ya know ;-). The transition to vaping was much easier than I thought, I just kept the e-cigs with me, and when I had a nicotine urge, puffed several times and the urge was gone.

I know what you mean about the money--I'm on permanent disability after an accident in '02 and even the cheapest generics cost me $240 a month! I really can't afford it. Now, at figure less than $40 a month (overstating) for liquid, occasional atomizer and battery replacements, I am saving at least $200 a month, and that is huge for us. (my wife and myself). More importantly to me, is the health savings. I was wheezing all night before I started vaping (I am 57 and long time smoker) and in only a few days, I was stunned to find the wheezing stopped completely.

I very recently went to medium strength (18 mg) and was puffing a little more than with the high strength, but that slowed down naturally in a few days as the brain adjusted to the difference.

BTW, UPDATE! I am now two days COMPLETELY analog free--to me that is a miracle, I never thought it possible. I am doing great, vaping away, but I find that because of the subtle differences in habits, I am actually vaping less than before! It's amazing, and I am thrilled that my wonderful wife is using her 801 pen style every day! Since she realized that she could vape in the store she manages (she just does it discreetly) she doesn't have to go outside the mall she works in to grab a couple of puffs--she loves it! Since she is a BC survivor, that makes me happier than anything!

Best of luck, and keep on writing! Great support here!

Larry

 

[ladysolitary85]

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Hi Ladysolitary!

I am very happy to hear that you are trying to lose the tobacco habit, good for you!! And yep, if baby steps is right for you, then that is the way you should do it.

This is how I went about it (not saying one thing works for everybody though). The first thing I found out after doing serious research on vaping (a lot on this site) is that the amount of nicotine absorbed by the body is actually far less with e-cigs than with analogs. That is even with high strength liquid, so in the beginning I used high strength nicotine, puffed as much as I needed and put no limits on cigarettes on myself, I didn't want the pressure of worrying about failure--again.

I just made sure all my batteries were fully charged when I went to bed, (that is why I recommend extra batteries) so I wouldn't have to worry about them running out the next day. I kept my regular cigs in a drawer in another room--out of sight out of mind ya know ;-). The transition to vaping was much easier than I thought, I just kept the e-cigs with me, and when I had a nicotine urge, puffed several times and the urge was gone.

I know what you mean about the money--I'm on permanent disability after an accident in '02 and even the cheapest generics cost me $240 a month! I really can't afford it. Now, at figure less than $40 a month (overstating) for liquid, occasional atomizer and battery replacements, I am saving at least $200 a month, and that is huge for us. (my wife and myself). More importantly to me, is the health savings. I was wheezing all night before I started vaping (I am 57 and long time smoker) and in only a few days, I was stunned to find the wheezing stopped completely.

I very recently went to medium strength (18 mg) and was puffing a little more than with the high strength, but that slowed down naturally in a few days as the brain adjusted to the difference.

BTW, UPDATE! I am now two days COMPLETELY analog free--to me that is a miracle, I never thought it possible. I am doing great, vaping away, but I find that because of the subtle differences in habits, I am actually vaping less than before! It's amazing, and I am thrilled that my wonderful wife is using her 801 pen style every day! Since she realized that she could vape in the store she manages (she just does it discreetly) she doesn't have to go outside the mall she works in to grab a couple of puffs--she loves it! Since she is a BC survivor, that makes me happier than anything!

Best of luck, and keep on writing! Great support here!

Larry

Thanks Larry! I actually find myself only using analog normally 4 times a day, but if something goes wrong with my SE then I go right back to my yucky analogs. Its very fustrating but I think I'm going to try a few of your tips and not pressure myself to hard. Vaping alone has helped me, I never would of thought I would be disgusted with the pack of Marlboro 100's that I usually tend to buy, I'm still so/so with my Camel Wide Lights but its definitely starting to help me move away from tobacco.

I know the support here is great! I'm glad I came here, I'm on here everyday.

 

[Slickstick]

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[smkgdfrnt1952]

Cool Lady, then I'm sure I'll see you around!

Happy vaping!

Larry

 

[smkgdfrnt1952]

Has anyone else found that the atomizers on the RN4081 "Super Cigarette" burn out really fast? I had two of them burn out in 6 weeks. Good thing I had my old reliable DSE 804's, or I would have had a problem. I also had a feeling those little things would burn out and had already ordered three more, but that seems really fast. Also, anyone know if the 510 atties burn out fast also? I heard they are hot when you use them, is that true also? I'm planning on buying a dozen or so to sell to friends, but can't decide which two models--definitely the 804 Pen for one, but which for the smaller cig? Any advice?