510s still the bees knees?

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About 2 years ago I bought two Yeti 510s. I like my 510 and stopped using it simply because of convenience. At the time, nothing compared to the quality and amount of vapor it produced. I have come back to give the e-cig another go.

I have seen that there are a lot of new e-cigs on the market and I am curious if there is any clear frontrunner like there was when the 510 came out. Is there a new product that is considerably better than what I have?
 

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I'm not following.. 510 compatible connectors come on a blistering ton of mods. Some of them are fixed voltage but longer runtime (ProVape-1, Silver Bullet), Some are switchable by using a different battery configuration between 3.7v and 6v (Chuck, Roughstack), and some are fully voltage variable like the Provari and The Darwin. Depends on what you're looking for above what you have? More vapor? Longer life? And the budget. I couldn't name even 1/10th of the options if I tried, there are so many now that you'll want to figure out your requirements. -Magnus
 

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But maybe the simple answer is...the 510 (meaning the "original" Joye 510 and all the differently labled versions of the same thing) is a pretty good ecig.

510 is my favorite kind of atomizer, especially for dripping at home. It's hot, lots of vapor, easy enough to clean. Easy draw.

I'm not familiar with the Yeti, but the only problem I can think of with your "usual" 510s is that the battery life is sort of crappy. I'm currently limping through the day with a PCC and a charger, changing batts frequently.

If this is too fiddly for you, you might look at an eGo or similar. Still compatible with your 510 atties and any other gear you happen to have, but much better battery life.

A guy I know gave me a riva 510 batt (fat battery with 510 connector) in the bar the other night, and it is marvelous. All the vapor I'm used to from my 510, a little hotter, and lasts all day.


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If you're talking about the old Joye 510, you're way behind my friend. Theyre still great beginner e-cigs, but things have really changed... I cant even begin to describe the sort of changes that have happened, I suggest you do some reading. Fat battery 510s, tube mods, box mods, bottom feeding, high-voltage, low-resistance, tanks, etc. etc....
 

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Haha, I remember those days, yes I owned a few yeti's back then also. The yeti is or was just a standard 510 device. There isn't much changed on the 510 attomizer since then. They do have different resistances now, where there was only one resistance back then. The quality control seems to be a bit better now days for the most part.

The biggest difference is the assortment of batteries you can get now days. There are also new attomizers that fit the same 510 threads, for instance the new tank attys, and new assortment of cartomizers. Some ppl dont care for the clearomizers, but with a bit of tweaking they work very well for me and last a really long time. There are alot of ppl that rave on the dual coil cartomizers also, I'll be picking up some of these soon.

There are a ton of battery options now, bigger longer lasting batts with more capacity and options, and also batts and mods that support variable voltage. The old yeti batts were 130ish (mah) they now have them in the 1300 mah range for longer life. The old yeti batteries were also 3.7 which is still the standard voltage and only around 130-150mah which are still available but not very desired, unless you want a compact unit.

If you want to get back into it and have something a bit easier to use, you can grab a riva kit, and some dual coil cartomizers, will be easier to use than the old yeti was. I think libertyflights still have the riva, or you can try the E power and dual cartos from madvapes. Glad your back, hope you find something you like
 
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Dripping with a 510 atty is the primary way I vape and has been for almost a year now. I can't see any reason to change. I do use the ce2s some and lately the duel coil cartomizers for out and about. For batteries, I'm recommending the mods these days because battery replacement for them is so much easier on the budget. Take a look at the the e-power from smok tech, and the rough stack from madvapes. If you'd like to try a cartomizer, the duel coils are getting good reviews.
 

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I don't think there is a front runner... it all depends... on who you ask... and whether you're interested in mods or not.

For more mainstream you're looking at the ego (which is a fat 510), and the gogo. I've heard a few sing the Leo's praises as well and THEN there's quite a stir over the newly released echo (basically and ego with an 808 connection and a large carto perhaps ego meets gogo?).

If you get into the mods, there's the Reo, the ProVari, the Glv-2.... and many more. (I find most people who get mods get more than one some times the same type sometimes collect different ones.)

I myself after having decided to get an ego soon...am now debating between the ego and the echo... UGH!!!

I would gladly own one of all the aforementioned models but alas! My budget does not allow for such frivolity.

ETA: Incidentally I am vaping on a 510 manual XL as I type this.
 
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I'm not following.. 510 compatible connectors come on a blistering ton of mods. Some of them are fixed voltage but longer runtime (ProVape-1, Silver Bullet), Some are switchable by using a different battery configuration between 3.7v and 6v (Chuck, Roughstack), and some are fully voltage variable like the Provari and The Darwin. Depends on what you're looking for above what you have? More vapor? Longer life? And the budget. I couldn't name even 1/10th of the options if I tried, there are so many now that you'll want to figure out your requirements. -Magnus

I agree completely! With so many options available to you now and not being a complete newbie (you already know you like them) you need to make a list of your wants and figure out your budget. How ling do you want the battery to last? How much fiddling with juice filling do you want to do. Do you want to stay small and cig size? Or does size not matter?

I had an ego type at first, but went quickly to mods and couldn't be happier.

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Relatively new to this whole thing but I went from the small Njoy Npro 4081 with cartomizers to the Smok Tech eGo with a fat battery from Mad Vapes. I believe the 4081 has similar battery life to the standard 510 at 180 mAH but the eGo I have has 900 mAH which gives me about 5X more use per charge. Cartomizers are great for my purposes - minimizes the fiddling around. Fill a few with different flavors, cap 'em up and I'm good for a whole day of vaping. Depending on the juice, I consistently get huge hits with good flavor just using 2.5 to 3.2 ohm cartos. If I get a desire to try some other delivery system such as tanks,mods or change batteries I know my basic 510s will be compatible and available everywhere. So, 510s made a believer out of this noob and I see no reason to change. Do go with a fat battery and give cartomizers a try. Haven't tried the dual-coil versions yet but they're getting good reviews. Bees Knees? Heck, for me they're the whole hive.
 
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To sum it up, the 510 is no longer a single model. It has become a system or a standard if you wish. Often you'll hear people say "510 compatible" or "510 threaded." Which means that whatever it is, be it atomizer, battery, drip tip it is designed to fit together with other 510 parts.

That said, the common e-cig that is most often suggsted to newbies these days is either an eGo or a Riva. Both 510 compatible. They are virtually the same but made by different manufacturers. They are fat batteries the size of a small cigar but they offer much longer battery life on average of 5-8 hours even for a heavy vaper. The second benefit of the eGo or Riva is that you can use low resistance atomizers and cartomizers on them without worry of hurting your smaller 510 (Yeti) battery. Many people like low resistance as it's easier to drag on and produces a warmer vapor.

Then of course there are "mods" which can be 510 compatible as well. These are the big battery made in the USA devices that hit at higher volts and longer run times, but often look like small flashlights.
 

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I'm relatively new to e-cigs, and I haven't ventured any further than 808's and 510's. Love the 510. The battery life is crappy, yes, but I don't see myself spending gobs more cash on upgrades when the battery issue is easily overcome by just keeping extra charged batts handy.

Grant it, I love my mods but I carry 3 510 batteries to work every night. Small and easy to hide. Tons of vapor and flavor. Yeah, the battery life sucks but I still like my baby 510's. They hit every time and I've had them for 9 months now and haven't had any issues yet.
 

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To sum it up, the 510 is no longer a single model. It has become a system or a standard if you wish. Often you'll hear people say "510 compatible" or "510 threaded." Which means that whatever it is, be it atomizer, battery, drip tip it is designed to fit together with other 510 parts.

That said, the common e-cig that is most often suggsted to newbies these days is either an eGo or a Riva. Both 510 compatible. They are virtually the same but made by different manufacturers. They are fat batteries the size of a small cigar but they offer much longer battery life on average of 5-8 hours even for a heavy vaper. The second benefit of the eGo or Riva is that you can use low resistance atomizers and cartomizers on them without worry of hurting your smaller 510 (Yeti) battery. Many people like low resistance as it's easier to drag on and produces a warmer vapor.

Then of course there are "mods" which can be 510 compatible as well. These are the big battery made in the USA devices that hit at higher volts and longer run times, but often look like small flashlights.

Low resistance atomizers and cartomizers are not meant to be used on eGo or Riva proprietary batteries even though some people do. They draw too much current and produce too much heat for the MOSFET switches in them. The LR's were meant to be used on a device such as the Prodigy V3.1 by puresmoker.com as an example.
 

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The original 510/Dura/Yeti batteries were great in their days, but things have really changed. The 510 atomizer is still a very popular choice, but many people have replaced their cig-like 510/Yeti batteries with larger capacity batteries that last longer and can sustain larger loads.

The 510/Dura/Yeti was dethroned from the top spot not longer after the release of the Janty/Joye eGo. The eGo still used 510 atomizers but it had 3-4x the capacity which meant you could vape all day on just one or two batteries. The increased capacity also meant it had a larger discharge rating allowing it to sustain larger loads. In other words, the eGo batteries could use lower resistance atomizers to increase the power output thereby increasing the amount of liquid vaporized in a period of time--more vapor production!

The eGo turned out to be very popular, especially when combined with the LR atomizers. It wasn't long before other companies were trying to capitalize on its success. One of the first was the Riva, which from the outside, appears to be almost identical to the eGo. The eGo and Riva sold well and were a great success. They are still one of the top recommendations for new users. Many other models exist that are very similar to the eGo/Riva design. They are usually referred to as "eGo-type" models. Some examples include the Go-Go, Leo, Echo, and E-Power. The differences between them vary from appearance, atomizer connection (proprietary, 510, 801, etc), capacity (mAh), voltage, and price. I guess what classifies them all as eGo-Type is mainly their size (marker/cigar size), capacity (usually between 650-1200 mAh), and the fact that you can't replace the battery (except with the E-Power). The eGo-type models are really a step up. They last longer and they hit harder when paired with LR atties/cartos (1.5-2.0 ohm).

But if you really want to get the most out of vaping you might want to spend some more money and get a mod. Mods are usually bigger and heavier than the eGo-types but they have their advantages. For one, they have a replaceable battery. The batteries in mods are usually higher capacity so they last longer. Some mods allow you to use different types of batteries to get different voltages (e.g., 3.7V, 5V, 6V, 7.4V). Some mods, like the ProVari and Darwin, have microchips that allow you to adjust the voltage in a wide range with small increments without having to change batteries. Some mods, like the Reo, have a juice feeder built that makes dripping into your atty a breeze.

The main advantage of the 510/Yeti batteries is also it's biggest disadvantage--its size. They are small, light, and easy to conceal. But that also means they are low capacity and not capable of delivering enough electric current to get a good power output. They're also only about 3.1V under load. Most mods, and even the current "eGo-Type" Riva, output at 3.7V or more.

So to answer your question, YES, there are definitely new products better than the 510. I own a 510, KR808-D, eGos, 5V PT, and ProVari. The original 510/Yeti battery is probably my least favorite out of all those! If you want something a step up go for a 3.7V, 1000+ mAh "eGo-type" battery or a true 3.7V mod with replaceable battery. I'd get one with a 510 connection since it is most popular connection type. The 510 connection is also compatible with 306 type atomizers. If you want the "bees knees" (like variable voltage or juice feeding) then you're going to have to pay for it. Some of the advanced mods cost over $150.
 
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Low resistance atomizers and cartomizers are not meant to be used on eGo or Riva proprietary batteries even though some people do. They draw too much current and produce too much heat for the MOSFET switches in them. The LR's were meant to be used on a device such as the Prodigy V3.1 by puresmoker.com as an example.

I have two Riva kits and an eGo kit and I haven't had any problems in the last 7 months vaping LR cartomizers and LR atty's. Including an LR306 atty. Batteries are still going strong. I use them every day.

In fact last Christmas I ran over one of my Riva batteries with a truck and had to push it back to together. All dented and dinged up it still vapes and recharges strong. Even with LR.
 
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