6v kills 510 attys with the chuck?

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Flitzanu

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Well chief, if you've got some intelligent answers, throw 'em out there. Just saying I'm wrong doesn't really mean anything.
And quit trying to twist my words. I don't think recommending that he try an 801 was an order or anything. I try to give advice based on my own personal experience to lead people to options that I think will help them out.
I never said that you couldn't do HV with a 510. I love a 510 at 5V. But because we are in the Chuck thread, 5V isn't an option. You get 4.2V or you get 6.5-7.0V.
I don't like the 510 at 6+ volts, many others I have read don't like the 510 at 6V+. I read over and over about people blowing out their 510s at 6V. For those reasons, I don't recommend it to ppl.

I use a variable voltage power supply to test lots of different attys running lots of different ohm ratings on lots of different voltages. I'm not locked into standard atty resistances, and I'm not locked into battery voltages, so I can modulate the voltage to any level, and in MY OPINION, 510's start tasting burnt at around 5.6V. 801's (quality 801s) vape perfectly between 6 and 7V. Because that's the range a chuck will run in, I recommend 801 for HV on a chuck.

I'm not asking you to try it. How many Chucks do you own anyway?

Maybe if you didn't come off like an ..., I wouldn't have had to try to defend my point of view.

Bottom line is everyone is going to prefer different things.

I just want to try lead people in the right direction, to give them the best chance at success.
You just want to sound like you know what you are taking about without putting any useful information out there.

As for the OP: try the 510 at 6V if you like it great. If you want to try something that I think is better, spend the 10 bucks and get an 801 atty and adapter. Better yet PM me I will send you one, then you can decide for yourself.

lawl.

i'm just trying to figure out why you're so adamant to defend your position when all i did was point it out as being opinion.

haha, at least you're passionate about your opinions.

but...i don't need to sound like i know anything without putting useful info out there, plenty of others are doing that already without my help.

the 801 has a weak, light, airy draw. i PERSONALLY don't like it. everyone DOES rave about it being amazing at high voltage, but i think it sucks. it feels like breathing, not like vaping.
 

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lawl.

i'm just trying to figure out why you're so adamant to defend your position when all i did was point it out as being opinion.

haha, at least you're passionate about your opinions.

but...i don't need to sound like i know anything without putting useful info out there, plenty of others are doing that already without my help.

the 801 has a weak, light, airy draw. i PERSONALLY don't like it. everyone DOES rave about it being amazing at high voltage, but i think it sucks. it feels like breathing, not like vaping.

I think I may have mistook the intent of your original response to my post. Since I haven't seen you in here before (the chucklehead area that is) I thought it was some kind of drive-by slam or something.

Everyone does have a right to their own opinion, and I thought you were just trying to attack mine. Then in your second post ya called me 'chief' and dismissed everything I had said.

Anyway it's all good. I apologize for any name calling that came from me. And I'm not really passionate about 801s they leak like sieve. 510 is defiantly my favorite atty.

But I also think everyone should at least try all the major models 801,901,510,808. and with adapters at a couple bucks each, there's really no reason not to. People don't have to go out and buy whole kits anymore to try other options out.
 

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Yeah, like the 801, the 901's (and cartos) are higher ohm attys than the 510 and will handle the HV better. I think the cartos manage to handle the even higher voltage (7+) because the heating filament is surrounded by filler and juice and it acts as a heatsink a little. The great thing about the cartos is that they are so cheap that you can experiment with extra high voltages and if you blow them it's no big loss.
 

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No, not opinion at all. If your 801's are blowing at 6V, you are buying POS 801s. I suggest you do some research, ask some questions, and spend a few extra bucks to get some quality 801s
But I'm guessing since you have been using them for a year and haven't figured out how to not blow them, then you obviously haven't picked up on as much knowledge in a year as I have in a few months.
I can only think that you are probably not going to listen to anyone who hasn't been vaping as long as you so I won't bother try to give you any advice. But just so you know the equipment has changed alot since you started...try to keep up :rolleyes:

And just so everyone else knows...I'm not usually a xxxx to people and try to give helpful advice whenever I can, (I think other chuckleheads would back me on this), but when ppl come in just to make jabs and slams, I'm going to react appropriately. If you guys aren't planning on getting a chuck, take it somewhere else.
 

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No, not opinion at all. If your 801's are blowing at 6V, you are buying POS 801s. I suggest you do some research, ask some questions, and spend a few extra bucks to get some quality 801s
But I'm guessing since you have been using them for a year and haven't figured out how to not blow them, then you obviously haven't picked up on as much knowledge in a year as I have in a few months.
I can only think that you are probably not going to listen to anyone who hasn't been vaping as long as you so I won't bother try to give you any advice. But just so you know the equipment has changed alot since you started...try to keep up :rolleyes:

And just so everyone else knows...I'm not usually a xxxx to people and try to give helpful advice whenever I can, (I think other chuckleheads would back me on this), but when ppl come in just to make jabs and slams, I'm going to react appropriately. If you guys aren't planning on getting a chuck, take it somewhere else.

oh... so now you know what models i own too?

seems to me you don't know a quarter of what you THINK you know...

prove i don't own a chuck.....

simply asstastic sense of self worth you have there friend..

and btw.. i don't need yer friend's to tell me how knowledgable and friendly you are... i've seen for myself thank you
 

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Ditto... I have seen how friendly you are as well.
As for the knowledge, I'm still waiting to see some from you.

All I was saying is that if you are blowing 801's (especially on standard batteries) you either bought some seriously crappy 801's or you don't have a clue how to use them properly.
I KNOW I don't know everything, so I take in what others have to say, I do research, testing, etc. to try to learn more.
You seem more like the kind of person who does know everything (since you've been doing it for so long and all), but for some reason aren't willing to share your 'master vaper' knowledge. So I don't think I can tell you anything you don't already know about vaping. But, if I have given some piece of information that you know to be wrong, I would love to hear from the guru what it is, so I don't keep spreading misinformation.

And when did I claim to know what models you have?
 

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cant we all just get along... why all the hostility over the computer, so there's some educated people, some opinionated people.. and probably some weird people... obviously people aren't going to agree or think the way you do.... your all little Hitlers to me.

peace, plur, r,e,s,p,e,c,t that is what you mean to mee...

pshh.... let it go...
 

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BB: Are you dripping or using carts? You gotta keep 'em wet, and it seems like carts with stock stuffing just don't do the best job at keeping them wet enough for 6V. Dripping seems to work better for 6V.
I'm not sure about this (just a theory) but it might help to break-in a new atty a 3.7 before you use it at 6V.

Also, as others have said, it helps if you don't keep the button down for the whole drag. You can still do a long drag, just try pushing and letting off the button at 1-2 second intervals throughout.
It will also help if you make the last second or so of the drag without the button, so that you can draw a little air through at the end to help cool it off a little.
 

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Oh Shoot....I just blew a few hour old 901 atty. Guess I am vaping too long each time. Just running 6v.


from my experiences.....

while alot of people tend to do complaining about 901 and 510 at 6v... i've almost never have problems... yes... there is a CHANCE you are holding the button too long and blowing your attie... but from what i've experienced it's not likely the problem...

i've used 6v exclusively... since about March this year when i built my very first Magnum mod... in MOST cases with a 901 blowing i is either A) old and used up... B) cheap built and simply waiting for the excuse to pop.. or C) there is a possible short in your mod

just so you know.... my 901 and 510 atomizers tend to last at LEAST two months at 6v on average... i do NOT blow out my atomizers unless i KNOW i have flooded them.. i do NOT clean my atomizers unless they are pretty much dead anyways and it doesnt matter if cleaning kills them... when i start getting diminished vaper i tend to take my mouthpiece off and hit the button until my atomizer lows a bright orange (this is the only cleaning method that i subscribe to... BUT.. you risk blowing the coil) i do NOT drip... i ALWAYS use a cartridge.. i vape my wet cart until the vaper starts diminishing (ie dry) and then i SLIGHTLY over topoff my cartridge.. and rarely but sometimes.. throw a drop or two into the atomizer for good measure...

now... that said... i'm not claiming to be an expert... i'm telling you my personal experience... and YES.. i do have people who think i'm a ..... for my vaping practices.. but interestingly.. i tend to have better luck with my gear than most of them...

if it was MY mod... if it is randomly blowing atties in quick timeframes.... i would be checking inside for the possibility of a short of some type... and above all... i would most likely be emailing the designer/maker of said mod to find out what could POSSIBLY go wrong that MIGHT cause the problem

my $.02 for what it's worth
 

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I'm with taukimada on the not soaking to clean. I don't see any reason to soak and wait, then dry and wait more, etc. Others may disagree.
I also agree with the method for cleaning. Just a burn-off will usually do the trick.
The only times I blow them out are if I have flooded it, or sometimes when I want to change flavors but don't want to vape the old out (that's kinda wasteful and unneeded, but oh well)
The only other time I blow them out before I do a burn-off. I find it helps to get the atty dry to make it easier to get red hot. It also helps to get it red hot then cool it by blowing from a distance down the barrel, then red hot, then blow, etc for about 10-15 cycles. Usually by the time your done you have an atty that's good as new. But like was said before, it's easy to pop them like this so you gotta be careful with it.

I also agree with the short as a possible culprit, but I would think that the short would have to be in the switch for it to pop attys. Like the switch not opening and leaving power on to your atty when you are not vaping. A short anywhere else would just cause it to trip batteries. I would think.

I'm really not much help with diagnosing why they are blowing, as the only atty I've ever blown was one that I put 9.5V on just to see how long it could take it. (surprisingly long actually a good 10 seconds)
But I think I know how not to blow them, as the only one I've ever blown....
 
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