70% rubbing alcohol

[AttyPops]

We've been through this a 100 times on the forum... do some searching. Neither of those articles are talking about the small amounts you could get from residue in a blown out rinsed atty. Sheesh. Power tools in the shower...lol.... That's out of line. In particular, when you are wrong.

There's 100's of users that have used ISO on this forum.... no damage yet. And fray... FYI... that isn't good scientific information.... it's an eHow catch-all. Proper info include things like this http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/healthguidelines/isopropylalcohol/recognition.html that talks about exposure at 400 ppm for 8 or 10 hours as a limit..........

And I clearly stated they were metabolized differently... and didn't equate them. That's even in your partial quote. Sheesh again.

 

[fray]

We've been through this a 100 times on the forum... do some searching. Neither of those articles are talking about the small amounts you could get from residue in a blown out rinsed atty. Sheesh. Power tools in the shower...lol.... That's out of line. In particular, when you are wrong.

There's 100's of users that have used ISO on this forum.... no damage yet. And fray... FYI... that isn't good scientific information.... it's an eHow catch-all. Proper info include things like this http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/healthguidelines/isopropylalcohol/recognition.html that talks about exposure at 400 ppm for 8 or 10 hours as a limit..........

And I clearly stated they were metabolized differently... and didn't equate them. That's even in your partial quote. Sheesh again.

I took it from his links that significant exposure could maybe cause problems in some people. I called it good info because of the conclusion I drew from it. Not saying it was evidence for his case.

So from what I have seen the use of isopropyl alcohol does not have a significant chance of harming most people unless it is high exposure.

But like every warning on every package (paraphrase) "don't do it, or if you do you can't sue us because we told you not to"

 

[Darrigaaz]

We've been through this a 100 times on the forum... do some searching. Neither of those articles are talking about the small amounts you could get from residue in a blown out rinsed atty.

I agree that the subject has been brought up plenty of times on this forum, but in almost every conversation, there is somebody who warns about the potential dangers of using isopropyl alcohol for cleaning their cartos/attys.

What you consider "small amounts you could get" are potentially large amounts when considering that not everybody may rinse out an atty as well as you. There is nothing wrong with giving a warning to others about risks.

There's 100's of users that have used ISO on this forum.... no damage yet. And fray... FYI... that isn't good scientific information.... it's an eHow catch-all. Proper info include things like this Occupational Safety and Health Guideline for Isopropyl Alcohol that talks about exposure at 400 ppm for 8 or 10 hours as a limit..........

There are 100's of people that run with scissors every day that do not get hurt, but that doesn't mean that it's safe.

Your link shows that 400 ppm is considered acceptable for 8 or 10 hours as a limit, but it also shows that 500 ppm is only acceptable for 15 mins at a time. With that level of curve, how long is an acceptable limit for 600 ppm, or 700 ppm? How many ppm does a person get if they vaporize one drop of isopropyl alcohol and inhale it into their lungs?

Without adding heat to the equation, the ppm of isopropyl alcohol as it is just evaporating under normal conditions is greater than 400 ppm, which is why the working environments that utilize this chemical is required to have additional dilution ventilation. By adding heat, and vaporizing it, we can conclude that the ppm go above the normal evaporation rate and far exceed the 400 ppm that is considered "safe" in a limited timeframe.

 

[Gummy Bear]

Well the simple truth is that any and all of the mentioned methods will work just fine. I don't think anyone cleaning anything will not rinse it before using it. but no matter what the subject there will always be fear mongers that say things that scare people. It is sad that this thread came to this when all that would have been needed was to point out to rinse the things when you finish cleaning them. personally at about 2 bucks each I just toss them and screw on a new on. why spend 50 dollars worth of labor to extend the life of a 2 dollar part by 3 weeks.

 

[DC2]

You don't really need anything but water when using the Highping Method that you mentioned.

Just make sure to rinse it with really well with really hot water beforehand.
And make sure to rinse it again after you've burned off all the gunk.

I won't even get into whether or not rubbing alcohol is okay, because I think it's irrelevant.

 

[guitarmeetsjake]

I've been soaking the atty in 70% ISO for abouuuut... 8+ hours. I just took it out, dried it, blew it out, rinsed thoroughly with hot water, blew it out again, connected to battery, burned it dry, dripped a couple of drops of PG onto the atty, burned it dry again, repeated 3 times, hooked it up to a cart, and it still feels clogged.. This thing must have something serious clogged in it :/ it's even peeling the black paint off of the outside of the atty.

Any tips on what to try next?

Addition: It IS burning, because it was producing a pretty good amount of vape when I dripped the liquid onto it. But when I hook it up with the cart and connect it to the battery, I only get a tiny bit of taste and barely enough vape to notice..

 

[AttyPops]

This part:

dripped a couple of drops of PG onto the atty, burned it dry again, repeated 3 times,

creates the gunk, not removes it. Only dry/warm burn it without liquid (standard ohms suggested only...LRs pop). Or just blow it out real well after rinsing and let it dry. However you dry it, put a couple of drops in, the cart on, and vape as usual. If you must dry burn it... do it dry, just after cleaning. Try not to pop it.

 

[guitarmeetsjake]

This part:



creates the gunk, not removes it. Only dry/warm burn it without liquid (standard ohms suggested only...LRs pop). Or just blow it out real well after rinsing and let it dry. However you dry it, put a couple of drops in, the cart on, and vape as usual. If you must dry burn it... do it dry, just after cleaning. Try not to pop it.

I rinsed it and blew it out and burned dry again after I did that, which I forgot to include. It was more or less just to get any bad taste (if any) out of it.

 

[guitarmeetsjake]

I soaked it for another half hour or so, repeated the same step (other than dripping and then dry burning) and put two drops into the atty before I loaded the cart. Took a few hits, but it's working again. Not completely. In fact, much, much worse than it was, but at least it's working now. It's going in my backup cabinet for a rainy day. Thanks guys x)

 

[fray]

it seems like you are working a little too hard to clean the atty.

My procedure (works for the most part)
step 1- blow out all liquid possible into napkin/paper towel
step 2- rinse in sink with warm water, holding the atty under the running water
step 3- put a small amount of everclear into a shot glass and let the atty soak for ~15 mins
step 4- blow like mad to get out all of the alcohol
step 5- dry burn - short bursts until atty turns red then let rest for a few seconds. This is a critical part where too much will pop the coil if you are not careful. dry burns can shorten the lifespan of an atty. The way I figure it is it is performing crappy anyway so its worth the risk.
step 6- vape as usual

this all takes 20 mins, 15 of which is staring at a shot glass

 

[llmercll]

I've been using 70% iso for awhile with no issues.

I may try out vinegar or ethyl alcohol, though.

 

[DC2]

I soaked it for another half hour or so, repeated the same step (other than dripping and then dry burning) and put two drops into the atty before I loaded the cart. Took a few hits, but it's working again. Not completely. In fact, much, much worse than it was, but at least it's working now. It's going in my backup cabinet for a rainy day. Thanks guys x)

It's still wet, it will be fine when it dries.
Or you can dry burn it until it is actually dry.