801 fusions. real or not real..

[tsbman]

I will post some pics I have tomorrow.

I have just got into the whole "FUSION" thing and have found two suppliers. IKV, mentioned here and ElectroNicStix.com. I bought two five packs from ENS. One SR and one LR. I also bought 1 five pack of LR from IKV cause that was all he had. Right now I am running the ENS SR in a tank and an IKV LR in a tank. Not a fair fight I know..... I only have two tanks and one is a homemade POS. Why I didn't try to do LR's from both at them same time... hey. I just heard about them, didn't have a plan really. just bought them. ENS is local so.... I just jumped.

Ok. Here's why. I didn't want to do LR's on my BP cause I didn't want to burn up a new carto. SO... there you go.

I am working on getting another tank and waiting for the IKV problem to be settled before I order more fusions from them. Seems they had a shipping or order filling error over there. Confident that will be resolved.

So, in the mean time while I am waiting. I would very much like all you fusion users to post your pics of cartos AND the packaging they came in!

I have bought probably 25-30 cartos in five packs and all of the cartons have looked the same! With exception of a sticker designating the type, except for the 5 pack I bought from IKV. They were the same box BUT branded Ikenvape.

This is going to be one of those things that drive me crazy, I can tell. Same box manufacterer or same carto factory or same distributor from one factory.....

I guess the biggest deal to me is, although it is not a huge issue, is the packaging. I am 40+ years old and grew up here in the staets and the packaging, styling, branding easily identified the maker. Ford, Chevy, Kraft mac'n'cheese vs. western family. You know what I mean? I know all this stuff is coming from China, but..... It seems that no matter what you order, it all looks the same!

It would be like buying a pack of cigaretts and Camel and Marlboro were in an identical box with only a little sticker on the side that said what it was.

Get my drift?

 

[dmako]

Can some one cut open these two Fusions? Perhaps one could see a difference this way.

 

[Bovinia]

I haven't tried the fusions from ENS so I have no idea how they compare. I know that Isaac at IKV came up with the idea and worked with the manufacturer to create his Fusions to his specs. I'm guessing that Isaac has no way of stopping the manufacturer from selling them to another vendor. China doesn't really care who they make their money from. A lot of us remain loyal to Isaac out of respect for being the creator and for his outstanding customer service.

At the end of the day, what's important is how satisfying your vape is

 

[Wharf Rat]

Ditto ++++

 

[woodslady1]

^^^
What Bov & Wharf said!

 

[5cardstud]

Smart lady. We're all different with different likes and dislikes. Just because one person likes this don't mean everyone will. I have boxes of Fusions but have been vaping an 808 for almost 2 weeks. Go figure.

If you want to be sure of what you're getting, get it from the person that came up with the idea. Mike was the first Variable Voltage Pv maker and designer. can you get variable voltage devices from copycats? Yes but you get what you pay for. I get mine from notcig.

 

[FreeFire]

Agreed on all counts......The saying "It's a Real McCoy" continues even in today's marketplace. Go with the original..go with the best!

 

[kempo63]

Couple of fusions. Could have sworn that the LR had that etched on the carto but when I opened one it didn't have anything to distinguish it from the SR ones.... Haven't tried any "Fusions" *cough* from any other vendor so I couldn't compare the diff.

 

[r77r7r]

So, the famous fusions are just rebranded chinese stuff anyone can get?

 

[markfm]

Like an aw is just a battery. The fusions ikenvape sells meet his particular stringent requirements.

 

[minx]

I am pretty sure the ones you get from IKV are made for his company w/ his specifications. The ones from ENS are called Fusion and are an 801 fitting, but I'm not sure they are the same as the ones that IKV sells. Are they exactly alike? I can't say, I have never tried them, you can most likely get this answer from the IKV forum. I can say that I have yet to have a DOA atty or carto from IKV - I'll stick with what I know and trust.

 

[5cardstud]

So, the famous fusions are just rebranded chinese stuff anyone can get?

Ya if you want garbage. But the real ones are a creation of Ikenvape that he has the Chinese make to his specks. Then of coarse he had to, just like notcig, have all the lowlifes try to copy and cash in on their hard work.

 

[5cardstud]

Like an aw is just a battery. The fusions ikenvape sells meet his particular stringent requirements.

Mark there's one in every crowd. It's called talking out their..........well you get the picture

Oh BTW I got my megas and they were right. yipee.

 

[FreeFire]

So, the famous fusions are just rebranded chinese stuff anyone can get?

The answer is: NO...Chinese are experts at "knock offs". Ikenvape Fusions are "only" Ikenvape Fusions..there is nothing on the market that compares....period.

 

[r77r7r]

I will post some pics I have tomorrow.

I have just got into the whole "FUSION" thing and have found two suppliers. IKV, mentioned here and ElectroNicStix.com. I bought two five packs from ENS. One SR and one LR. I also bought 1 five pack of LR from IKV cause that was all he had. Right now I am running the ENS SR in a tank and an IKV LR in a tank. Not a fair fight I know..... I only have two tanks and one is a homemade POS. Why I didn't try to do LR's from both at them same time... hey. I just heard about them, didn't have a plan really. just bought them. ENS is local so.... I just jumped.

Ok. Here's why. I didn't want to do LR's on my BP cause I didn't want to burn up a new carto. SO... there you go.

I am working on getting another tank and waiting for the IKV problem to be settled before I order more fusions from them. Seems they had a shipping or order filling error over there. Confident that will be resolved.

So, in the mean time while I am waiting. I would very much like all you fusion users to post your pics of cartos AND the packaging they came in!

I have bought probably 25-30 cartos in five packs and all of the cartons have looked the same! With exception of a sticker designating the type, except for the 5 pack I bought from IKV. They were the same box BUT branded Ikenvape.

This is going to be one of those things that drive me crazy, I can tell. Same box manufacterer or same carto factory or same distributor from one factory.....

I guess the biggest deal to me is, although it is not a huge issue, is the packaging. I am 40+ years old and grew up here in the staets and the packaging, styling, branding easily identified the maker. Ford, Chevy, Kraft mac'n'cheese vs. western family. You know what I mean? I know all this stuff is coming from China, but..... It seems that no matter what you order, it all looks the same!

It would be like buying a pack of cigaretts and Camel and Marlboro were in an identical box with only a little sticker on the side that said what it was.

Get my drift?

I'd really like to know how the 2 LR fusions stack up against each other, But I'd really like to know how they compare against a BogeLR- if you have them.

Have you used the 801-510 adapter from E-STIX?

 

[Wharf Rat]

I use the stealth 510/801 from avid and it's been working great for 14 months.

 

[5cardstud]

Man I have no idea how this big Fusion debate got started but NOTCIG.COM don't sell fusions or fusion knock offs so why is this post going on in this forum. No I'm not mad at no one. I just think it should be moved to the proper venue. Thank you all.

 

[5cardstud]

 

[FreeFire]

"Hey, there's a Fusion in my boot!"......................LOLOLOL

 

[tsbman]

Left to right. IKV 801 LR Fusions, No LR etched onto carto.

ENS 801 LR. LR etched onto carto.

ENS 801 SR.

I do have to say performance wise, the IKV seem to hit a bit better, smoother, easier. But the ENS perform well, also.

That said I will order more from IKV as soon as I have a bit more dough in my pocket. His shipping was fast and cheap!

Other than the IKV branding, the boxes are identical. Jujst one of those things that make you go hmmm....