85% Of Electronic Cigarette Users Would Turn To Black Market To Avoid Cigarettes
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You should set up a poll here. I have a feeling it might even be higher than that.
"An unjust law is no law at all", said St Augustine, providing the foundation of civil disobedience movements across the globe. If a law is not really a law at all, it is argued, one has a right -- even a duty -- to break it. Martin Luther King articulated this view in his Letter from Birmingham Jail: "one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws".
When can we break an unjust law?
"An unjust law is no law at all", said St Augustine, providing the foundation of civil disobedience movements across the globe. If a law is not really a law at all, it is argued, one has a right -- even a duty -- to break it. Martin Luther King articulated this view in his Letter from Birmingham Jail: "one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws".
When can we break an unjust law?
Honestly as long as the Black Market prices dont rise above cigs i would still vap away. i have contacts overseas that could send me a care package or two
i put enough supplies away to last me years,but if i had to ill do what i have to do to stay vaping,lets hope it dont come to that
All any user needs is a 1L bottle of PG, 16oz of VG and flavourings. All easily accessible.
I'm sure that black market supplies of unflavoured nic wouldn't be too hard to obtain.
What annoys me the most is that any potential ban will merely drive people to getting dangerously high concentrates of nic juice for longevity, prompting people to endanger themselves more than they need to.
You wouldn't believe it could be so difficult to save your own life would you? You certainly wouldn't believe that your own govts would try so hard to stop you neither
I'm sure that black market supplies of unflavoured nic wouldn't be too hard to obtain.
What annoys me the most is that any potential ban will merely drive people to getting dangerously high concentrates of nic juice for longevity, prompting people to endanger themselves more than they need to.
You wouldn't believe it could be so difficult to save your own life would you? You certainly wouldn't believe that your own govts would try so hard to stop you neither
All any user needs is a 1L bottle of PG, 16oz of VG and flavourings. All easily accessible.
I'm sure that black market supplies of unflavoured nic wouldn't be too hard to obtain.
What annoys me the most is that any potential ban will merely drive people to getting dangerously high concentrates of nic juice for longevity, prompting people to endanger themselves more than they need to.
You wouldn't believe it could be so difficult to save your own life would you? You certainly wouldn't believe that your own govts would try so hard to stop you neither
You can mess with just about anything in government. Call them names make them look like fools, all thats ok but when you mess with their money look out. The funny thing is we pay them to do this to us.
atties are nothing more then a special wire dead shorted. if it came to it it could be done
could be done rather easily too. any wire will heat up given enough current. The trick is finding the right material/temperature to give it good longevity. Heat it up too much and the wire will break.
i was bored one day at work and wrapped a bunch of wire (plastic insulated) around a plastic cylinder, maybe 75 or 80 feet, cylinder was about the size of a spool of thread. Anyway, hooked it up to a DC power supply, applied 24 VDC at roughly 5 amps. Within minutes, water was boiling.
i was bored one day at work and wrapped a bunch of wire (plastic insulated) around a plastic cylinder, maybe 75 or 80 feet, cylinder was about the size of a spool of thread. Anyway, hooked it up to a DC power supply, applied 24 VDC at roughly 5 amps. Within minutes, water was boiling.
CASAA survey of 2,217 ecig users.
Check out the answers to #9 under "Electronic Cigarette Use."
CASAA Electronic Cigarette User Survey Results
75.3% state they would be "very likely" or "likely" to return to smoking tobacco.
88.3% state they would be "very likely" or "likely" to buy electronic cigarette supplies directly from China or the black market.
Check out the answers to #9 under "Electronic Cigarette Use."
CASAA Electronic Cigarette User Survey Results
75.3% state they would be "very likely" or "likely" to return to smoking tobacco.
88.3% state they would be "very likely" or "likely" to buy electronic cigarette supplies directly from China or the black market.
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So if I set up a poll and said would you go back to smoking or go on the black market and be called a criminal what would you pick.
So something like this.
If E-cigarettes were made illegal would you prefer to go back to smoking or would you turn to the black market?
1) I don't want to be a criminal so I will go back to smoking.
2) I will resort to the black market.
3) I will find some other way to get my fix.
I don't understand what you are asking? Do you not believe the results of the CASAA survey or it doesn't answer the question for you?
There are other answers, too:
11.3% said they'd be very likely/likely to quit cold turkey.
5.2% said they'd be very likely/likely to try to quit using an NRT like the patch or gum
14.1% said they'd be very likely/likely to use a tobacco alternative such as snus
I think it already answers your question quite well?
Territoo already started a poll on ECF asking the question: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/polls/66594-if-e-cigs-were-no-longer-legal.html
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There are other answers, too:
11.3% said they'd be very likely/likely to quit cold turkey.
5.2% said they'd be very likely/likely to try to quit using an NRT like the patch or gum
14.1% said they'd be very likely/likely to use a tobacco alternative such as snus
I think it already answers your question quite well?
Territoo already started a poll on ECF asking the question: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/polls/66594-if-e-cigs-were-no-longer-legal.html
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Sorry, for asking but the way questions are asked has a lot to do with how they are answered. I just thought one more poll wouldn't hurt anything. I'll drop it as it doesn't seem likely to do any good.
Ps. I was just going to post a poll and see what happened ,but I asked first on how it should be writen.
Peace!
So....you were trying to figure out how to word the poll to skew it?
Either way, based on previous surveys and polls, it seems that 80 - 88% of ecig users willing to go to a blackmarket. I'm not sure there would be any way to increase that number by rewording the question/answer choices? It is already a pretty significant percentage!
Feel free to do a poll - I wasn't trying to tell you what to do or not to do. I was just alerting people to the fact that, in addition to the survey the OP posted about, there is also the CASAA survey (with a far greater number of vapers responding than the 40 of the OP) and a current ECF poll already on the topic.
Either way, based on previous surveys and polls, it seems that 80 - 88% of ecig users willing to go to a blackmarket. I'm not sure there would be any way to increase that number by rewording the question/answer choices? It is already a pretty significant percentage!
Feel free to do a poll - I wasn't trying to tell you what to do or not to do. I was just alerting people to the fact that, in addition to the survey the OP posted about, there is also the CASAA survey (with a far greater number of vapers responding than the 40 of the OP) and a current ECF poll already on the topic.
I doubt the forces trying to ban vaping have thought it through, but what will they do if thier dream of banning them happens? Will this be another substance that is safer than legal alternatives that will find it's way to the list of banned substances? Will we be living in fear of some SWAT team coming into our homes and seizing our property and throwing us in jail like they do with the war on drugs??
This isn't the first time that people have used rediculous propaganda techniques to create hysteria to ban something, and the black market structures are firmly in place. I'm sure that the black marketeers would be more than happy to have another product to sell. I don't really know how I will react if the ban does take place, as I prefer to obey the law. I really cringe at the thought that someone who is simply seeking a safer alternative to smoking could be treated like a criminal. There's a lot about the world that doesn't add up to me, though.
This isn't the first time that people have used rediculous propaganda techniques to create hysteria to ban something, and the black market structures are firmly in place. I'm sure that the black marketeers would be more than happy to have another product to sell. I don't really know how I will react if the ban does take place, as I prefer to obey the law. I really cringe at the thought that someone who is simply seeking a safer alternative to smoking could be treated like a criminal. There's a lot about the world that doesn't add up to me, though.
There's been so much negative publicity so far on E-cigs that the public, or at least that people who are aware that it exists, view the E-cig as just another thing to avoid in public. The anti-E-cig lobby has used the "it has stuff from anti-freeze in it" argument as well as pointing out the nitrosamine content left over from obtaining the nicotine from tobacco leaves. They don't bother to mention that PG is in their food, medicine, and the salad dressing they just poured on their lettuce leaves while making the statement that it is poison. They don't tell you that the nitrosamines are in quantities that are just above the level of detection and are deemed by the labs to be far too low levels to even be considered.
We need some argument and debate on national news networks to bring out the fact that E-cigs are much safer than analogs and are far more effective in inducing people to quit or drastically reduce their analog consumption.
Education is in our favor! How do we go about spreading the word? Tell everyone you know about the tests that have been done on E-cigs. Give them the facts in a nutshell and tell them what to Google to find out for themselves. 100,000 E-cig users could reach 10 million people in a month by responding when people ask what that plastic thing is in your hand. In a year's time half the adults in the USA could be enlightened.
I've told my friends that in the first two weeks, my cigarette cough has disappeared and I can breath and exhale like I did 30 years ago. I can walk stairs and carry on a conversation when I get to the top. I'm having to slightly reduce my blood pressure medicine already. My resting pulse has dropped several beats per minute and I'm consistently in the 120/65 BP range and dropping further. The health benefits are many and the public needs to know it.
We need some argument and debate on national news networks to bring out the fact that E-cigs are much safer than analogs and are far more effective in inducing people to quit or drastically reduce their analog consumption.
Education is in our favor! How do we go about spreading the word? Tell everyone you know about the tests that have been done on E-cigs. Give them the facts in a nutshell and tell them what to Google to find out for themselves. 100,000 E-cig users could reach 10 million people in a month by responding when people ask what that plastic thing is in your hand. In a year's time half the adults in the USA could be enlightened.
I've told my friends that in the first two weeks, my cigarette cough has disappeared and I can breath and exhale like I did 30 years ago. I can walk stairs and carry on a conversation when I get to the top. I'm having to slightly reduce my blood pressure medicine already. My resting pulse has dropped several beats per minute and I'm consistently in the 120/65 BP range and dropping further. The health benefits are many and the public needs to know it.
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