A Couple of Noob Questions

[shawneelynn]

So I'm dealing with my first build that won't light simultaneously (dry firing) and I was curious about some things. I have been trying to push my lit side together with needle nose pliers and regular tweezers (as I've been shown to do) but it's still lighting first and the other side isn't at all. Granted the coil that lights isn't a pretty one, I'm thinking I need to take it off and make another coil, since my pushing together doesn't seem to work. Would it make sense to do this? Or is it best to keep trying?

Another random question, if my rda (Mutation V4) has a place to make two coils, am I required to have two or am I allowed to have only one coil?

Told y'all they are noob questions lol

 

[Vaslovik]

It might help if you can post pics of what you are doing, and what atty and mod you are using.

 

[Lessifer]

So I'm dealing with my first build that won't light simultaneously (dry firing) and I was curious about some things. I have been trying to push my lit side together with needle nose pliers and regular tweezers (as I've been shown to do) but it's still lighting first and the other side isn't at all. Granted the coil that lights isn't a pretty one, I'm thinking I need to take it off and make another coil, since my pushing together doesn't seem to work. Would it make sense to do this? Or is it best to keep trying?

Another random question, if my RDA (Mutation V4) has a place to make two coils, am I required to have two or am I allowed to have only one coil?

Told y'all they are noob questions lol

You don't HAVE to use two coils. Some atomizers allow you to set up the airflow for single or dual coil, I'm not sure about yours in particular.

As for your two coils, I would definitely rewrap the one. With dual coils it is important that they are both as near to identical as you can make them. Resistance, number of wraps, inner diameter, spacing, all play a role in how the coil heats up.

 

[shawneelynn]

It might help if you can post pics of what you are doing, and what atty and mod you are using.

I'm not home right now (where I've left this project) but I'll definitely do that once I get there [emoji1]

 

[shawneelynn]

You don't HAVE to use two coils. Some atomizers allow you to set up the airflow for single or dual coil, I'm not sure about yours in particular.

As for your two coils, I would definitely rewrap the one. With dual coils it is important that they are both as near to identical as you can make them. Resistance, number of wraps, inner diameter, spacing, all play a role in how the coil heats up.

My problem is I'm using the coil jig (hopefully pictured below) because I have a hard time wrapping by hand and this thing has a tendency to make my coil legs look funny. (Picture of this coming soon I promise)

 

[Lessifer]

My problem is I'm using the coil jig (hopefully pictured below) because I have a hard time wrapping by hand and this thing has a tendency to make my coil legs look funny. (Picture of this coming soon I promise)

Leg length is less important than number of wraps, though you don't want them to be TOO far off from eachother.

If I have a coil that is not lighting up like it should(starting from the middle and spreading out), I find that brushing the inside with the jig can help. Just brush the jig in and out of the coil a bit, and maybe brush the outside too. If the coil itself lights up fine, just slower than the other one, that usually means it's off resistance wise.

 

[shawneelynn]

Here's a picture of my build attempt

 

[shawneelynn]

Or not lol can't get my picture to upload. Rather frustrating actually.

 

[shawneelynn]

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OK I've tried lol

 

[shawneelynn]

Looking at it, I see that one has 9 and the other has 8-ish (8.5?) So I clearly see the problem now lol. So with this RDA I'll HAVE to use both sides (as opposed to just one coil)?

 

[Lessifer]

Looking at it, I see that one has 9 and the other has 8-ish (8.5?) So I clearly see the problem now lol. So with this RDA I'll HAVE to use both sides (as opposed to just one coil)?

I think they both have 9 wraps, counting from the side away from the legs, so I think you're actually good there. From looking, is the leg of the coil on the left touching the coil on the right? Try putting the jig in the coil that isn't lighting up as fast and moving it around a bit. Sometimes you get two wraps that are fused together and they need a slight separation to fire properly(unless it's a tensioned coil but that's different).

Does the inner part of your top cap have two cut outs to adjust the airflow, or three? If you're not able to block the airflow so that it would only hit one coil, you can still run a single coil, it will just be really airy and won't be as good of a vape.

 

[T0mmy1977]

What @Lessifer said. You may need to clip that leg.

 

[shawneelynn]

It's hanging out a little but not touching anything. I'll try moving first and clip if that doesn't work.

 

[edyle]

So I'm dealing with my first build that won't light simultaneously (dry firing) and I was curious about some things. I have been trying to push my lit side together with needle nose pliers and regular tweezers (as I've been shown to do) but it's still lighting first and the other side isn't at all. Granted the coil that lights isn't a pretty one, I'm thinking I need to take it off and make another coil, since my pushing together doesn't seem to work. Would it make sense to do this? Or is it best to keep trying?

Another random question, if my RDA (Mutation V4) has a place to make two coils, am I required to have two or am I allowed to have only one coil?

Told y'all they are noob questions lol

No you don't have to wrap two coils.
For your first build, might as well do 1 coil and keep it simple.

 

[shawneelynn]

No you don't have to wrap two coils.
For your first build, might as well do 1 coil and keep it simple.

I have one coil perfect but the second one I can't get to work. I'll do a little more research and try it.

 

[puffon]

If you haven't done it yet, re-tighten the post screws.
Sometimes they will loosen up after heating.

 

[T0mmy1977]

He may have snapped one of the legs on that problem coil.

 

[Lessifer]

Yeah, I went back and reread, is one side lighting and the other isn't at all? Or is one side lighting faster than the other? If you check the resistance, is it what it should be for your dual coil build?

 

[Falconeer]

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I've a Mutation X V4 too; I've done a lot of reading and research on it; I've also tried quite a few builds on it.

One of the problems that can come up with it is that the screws can cut the leg wire when tightened. I've found it's always a good idea to give them a wee tug after you've tightened the screw to check they are OK.

Yes you can do a single coil build on it and it'll work just fine.

Whatever you do, you will find it's quite an airy attie; I run mine for MTL with the bottom holes fully closed and half a column of upper intakes open.

The thing has a well deserved (IMHO) reputation for being a bit of a leaker. Reported fixes are keeping the coils quite high up, dripping very sparingly and if using two coils using one wick between the two and running it over the top of the posts - as per my picture. Again to minimise the leaking I've finally opted for spaced coils to bring the maximum element contact with my wicks.

Good luck and other will be along to offer more help soon, I'm sure.

 

[shawneelynn]

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I've a Mutation X V4 too; I've done a lot of reading and research on it; I've also tried quite a few builds on it.

One of the problems that can come up with it is that the screws can cut the leg wire when tightened. I've found it's always a good idea to give them a wee tug after you've tightened the screw to check they are OK.

Yes you can do a single coil build on it and it'll work just fine.

Whatever you do, you will find it's quite an airy attie; I run mine for MTL with the bottom holes fully closed and half a column of upper intakes open.

The thing has a well deserved (IMHO) reputation for being a bit of a leaker. Reported fixes are keeping the coils quite high up, dripping very sparingly and if using two coils using one wick between the two and running it over the top of the posts - as per my picture. Again to minimise the leaking I've finally opted for spaced coils to bring the maximum element contact with my wicks.

Good luck and other will be along to offer more help soon, I'm sure.

I think the screw cut one of them so I had to remake it. Also, I've noticed the "problems" you describe, but they haven't bothered me too bad yet. Do you have any other RDA suggestions that don't have these problems?